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Roger Moore- most lethal Bond?


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#1 Sunny_on_SM

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:27 PM

Interesting Bond trivia from Mumbai Mirror:

Before Die Another Day, how many people did James Bond kill on screen?

A total of 1,183. Roger Moore was the most lethal, with 586 dead.


http://www.mumbaimir...012200624625625

Who says Roger wasn't tough enough? :P :P :) :)

#2 Spurrier

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:40 PM

Isn't that something? I think Broccoli once said that a drawback for Rog as Bond is that he did not look threatening enough. But when you think about it, you would rather that your real life spy blend into the masses, rather than stand out. That way, he has the element of surprise going for him.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:43 PM

Here is the chart:

1- Roger Moore: 586
2- Sean Connery: 348 (with NSNA)
3- Pierce Brosnan: 215 (without DAD)
4- Timothy Dalton: 23
5- George Lazenby: 11

And the top-five for the movies:

1- Moonraker: 208
2- Octopussy: 204
3- Dr No: 196
4- Goldenye: 156
5- The Spy Who Loved Me: 135

For the other movies the score is under 50. And the average per movies is 59.15

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:45 PM

Are these all people that HE klled? Not counting, then, all the deaths in TSWLM Liparus battle or AVTAK flood?

OR, are all these people that he MEANT to kill?

I guess I'm just in total disbelief.

Edited by 00Twelve, 12 October 2006 - 01:49 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:46 PM

That's a hell of a lot of "three pillow tricks". :)

#6 crheath

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:46 PM

Does this mean 208 people were killed in Moonraker, or am I reading this wrong?

#7 Bwanito

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:55 PM

You read this right crheath

00twelve: The charts are concerning the deaths in the movies (not all the people that Bond killed)

#8 Mister Asterix

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 02:35 PM

[mra]Those numbers don

#9 DLibrasnow

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 02:46 PM

Thanks for posting this Sunny_on_SM!

#10 jaguar007

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 03:28 PM

We should count how many people Bond killed BY HAND!

#11 Publius

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 05:14 PM

How many people Bond kills is different than how many people die in a Bond movie. Lethality should be measured by how many people Bond personally kills or sets up to be killed, not whether he pushed a button that detonated a space station full of random, unseen lackies. It's things like setting a man on fire, kicking one off a ledge, or strangling him with piano wire that should count.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 09:23 PM

I always thought Roger did heartless killer Bond very well, on the few occasions it was required of him. I also think the numbers were affected by the prolific machine gun spraying habit of the Brosnan films, so it's a little like comparing chocolate milk, chocolate cake and chocolate ice-cream: They're all chocolate, but they're different.

#13 Sunny_on_SM

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 01:31 PM

Poor Lazenby and Dalton never had a chance to catch up, they only made one (Lazenby) and two (Dalton) movies. :)

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 02:57 PM

Poor Lazenby and Dalton never had a chance to catch up, they only made one (Lazenby) and two (Dalton) movies. :)


Given that he has a license to kill, James Bond doesn't really do a lot of killing himself.

Even in (the arguably) darkest movie of the series (Licence to Kill) Bond doesn't do much killing, leaving all that work to the main villain.

#15 Publius

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 03:04 PM

I always thought Roger did heartless killer Bond very well, on the few occasions it was required of him.

Agreed. Some of his finest moments, in my opinion.

Poor Lazenby and Dalton never had a chance to catch up, they only made one (Lazenby) and two (Dalton) movies. :)

Well, if you're looking at averages, there's no reason they couldn't have still compared. Problem is, the few they did didn't involve armies battling it out or satellite command centers being blown up.

Even in (the arguably) darkest movie of the series (Licence to Kill) Bond doesn't do much killing, leaving all that work to the main villain.

True, but I'd give Bond credit for, say, Krest's murder because he so elaborately set him up (as he did for others). To do something like that I'm sure requires more of a commitment to killing a man than using a Q gadget from far away.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 03:41 PM

I always thought Roger did heartless killer Bond very well, on the few occasions it was required of him. I also think the numbers were affected by the prolific machine gun spraying habit of the Brosnan films, so it's a little like comparing chocolate milk, chocolate cake and chocolate ice-cream: They're all chocolate, but they're different.


Actually, if you think about it, the fact that Roger was so smug, makes some of his kills more sadistic and cold - like kicking the car of the edge, or letting the guy fall who is holding on to his tie - or cracking a smile or a quirky look or something like that...for all his light hearted approach...he looks pretty brutal at times...precisely because he is playing it with a lack of seriousness.

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#17 Kalel577

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:25 PM

Who'da thunk?

BTW...how do you get those cool in red pictures of the Bond actors added to your profile?

Edited by Kalel577, 13 October 2006 - 04:28 PM.


#18 Daddy Bond

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 05:44 PM

Who'da thunk?

BTW...how do you get those cool in red pictures of the Bond actors added to your profile?


It's on the page where you change your profile - all the way down at the bottom.

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#19 Kalel577

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 06:52 PM

Thanks, "Daddy".

#20 Sunny_on_SM

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 01:39 PM


I always thought Roger did heartless killer Bond very well, on the few occasions it was required of him. I also think the numbers were affected by the prolific machine gun spraying habit of the Brosnan films, so it's a little like comparing chocolate milk, chocolate cake and chocolate ice-cream: They're all chocolate, but they're different.


Actually, if you think about it, the fact that Roger was so smug, makes some of his kills more sadistic and cold - like kicking the car of the edge, or letting the guy fall who is holding on to his tie - or cracking a smile or a quirky look or something like that...for all his light hearted approach...he looks pretty brutal at times...precisely because he is playing it with a lack of seriousness.

Regards


These are very good points! :) It's also in his eyes. I noticed that when he gets deadly serious and angry, his expression through the eyes can actually get pretty scary, it's a cold and merciless stare.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 11:23 AM

TSWLM: Shooting the Villian like 5 times slowly as he walks foward.

FYEO: Kicking the car off the cliff.

That made Roger hardcore :) :P

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 10:07 PM



I always thought Roger did heartless killer Bond very well, on the few occasions it was required of him. I also think the numbers were affected by the prolific machine gun spraying habit of the Brosnan films, so it's a little like comparing chocolate milk, chocolate cake and chocolate ice-cream: They're all chocolate, but they're different.


Actually, if you think about it, the fact that Roger was so smug, makes some of his kills more sadistic and cold - like kicking the car of the edge, or letting the guy fall who is holding on to his tie - or cracking a smile or a quirky look or something like that...for all his light hearted approach...he looks pretty brutal at times...precisely because he is playing it with a lack of seriousness.

Regards


These are very good points! :) It's also in his eyes. I noticed that when he gets deadly serious and angry, his expression through the eyes can actually get pretty scary, it's a cold and merciless stare.


Very good points, indeed. I agree with you.

#23 ramanovStar

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 12:37 AM

I thought that Moore's accidental killing of the scientists in Moonraker and his subsequent non-reaction to it was one of the most cold-blooded displays of ruthlessness ever shown in a Bond movie-or by any movie hero, now that I think about it. Moore is always accused of being too light-hearted, but he also showed a steely and affectless 007 quite well.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 04:20 AM

I thought that Moore's accidental killing of the scientists in Moonraker and his subsequent non-reaction to it was one of the most cold-blooded displays of ruthlessness ever shown in a Bond movie-or by any movie hero, now that I think about it. Moore is always accused of being too light-hearted, but he also showed a steely and affectless 007 quite well.


I just saw that clip a week ago.. it isn't as bad [censored] as I remembered.. he seems concerned (that the gas is going to make it across the threshold into the room where he's standing) and disinterested.. it really isn't that great of a scene (or even that important to the film).. not sure why it keeps coming up :)

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 05:03 AM

Blimey, GoldenEye. What a bloodbath!

#26 ramanovStar

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 04:46 PM


I thought that Moore's accidental killing of the scientists in Moonraker and his subsequent non-reaction to it was one of the most cold-blooded displays of ruthlessness ever shown in a Bond movie-or by any movie hero, now that I think about it. Moore is always accused of being too light-hearted, but he also showed a steely and affectless 007 quite well.


I just saw that clip a week ago.. it isn't as bad [censored] as I remembered.. he seems concerned (that the gas is going to make it across the threshold into the room where he's standing) and disinterested.. it really isn't that great of a scene (or even that important to the film).. not sure why it keeps coming up :)




I thought that Moore's accidental killing of the scientists in Moonraker and his subsequent non-reaction to it was one of the most cold-blooded displays of ruthlessness ever shown in a Bond movie-or by any movie hero, now that I think about it. Moore is always accused of being too light-hearted, but he also showed a steely and affectless 007 quite well.


I just saw that clip a week ago.. it isn't as bad [censored] as I remembered.. he seems concerned (that the gas is going to make it across the threshold into the room where he's standing) and disinterested.. it really isn't that great of a scene (or even that important to the film).. not sure why it keeps coming up :P




I thought that Moore's accidental killing of the scientists in Moonraker and his subsequent non-reaction to it was one of the most cold-blooded displays of ruthlessness ever shown in a Bond movie-or by any movie hero, now that I think about it. Moore is always accused of being too light-hearted, but he also showed a steely and affectless 007 quite well.


I just saw that clip a week ago.. it isn't as bad [censored] as I remembered.. he seems concerned (that the gas is going to make it across the threshold into the room where he's standing) and disinterested.. it really isn't that great of a scene (or even that important to the film).. not sure why it keeps coming up :P


Just watched Moonraker again and you're right, that scene isn't as bad as I remembered it. I guess my point was that Moore seemed to be an almost emotionless killer, not really a wimp at all. More sociopathic, really than the others.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 05:30 PM

Well, it seems we may all be a little wishful because we love Rog so much. But he admits himself that he didn't believe the character to behave like a realistic person, so he didn't attempt to portray him as such. That is, IMHO, the reason that he is an "emotionless" killer. I'm sure we all know that, but I'm just reiterating the point.

#28 007.5

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 08:54 PM

Moore had this lofty indifference when he was Bond and that's what made him ruthless and dangerous. He'd do away with you, smile and walk on as if nothing had happened.

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 02:55 PM

Well when Bond smacks Sandor off the building in TSWLM, that's showing how lethal and cold Roger Moore can be to get the info and use his licence to kill with good effect.




What a helpful chap.

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Posted 09 December 2006 - 07:17 PM

It's strange but none of the other Bonds seem to demonstrate such outright glee in slaughter that Roger's character does. It's strange for a man whom thinks that Bond was a likable chap that his character was the only one to genuinely be sadistic to his enemy's destruction.

While Connery's Bond did it, Moore is also known to have used a woman as a shield for a gunman. Frankly, Moore leaves a fairly bloody swath behind him and does it with no small amount of satisfaction.

Dalton, Craig, and Brosnan brooding has no place within Moore's world.