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[Daddy Bond]

Here's a question that may not be worthy of a separate thread, but it still is a curiousity of mine. The Bond films generally feature at least one good girl and one bad/villain girl.

Are the villain girls also considered official "Bond Girls" in the world of Bond?

I noticed, for example, on the web site - James Bond Multimedia - the bad girls are not listed as "Bond Girls".

Is there a definitive answer, or is this just opinion? Are the villain girls also "Bond Girls"?

Regards

[Santa]

I consider any woman he sleeps with to be a Bond girl, i.e. Moneypenny is not a Bond girl.

[DamnCoffee]

I agree with santa

[Loomis]

I consider any woman he sleeps with to be a Bond girl, i.e. Moneypenny is not a Bond girl.

Ah, but that makes Xenia not a Bond girl - and I doubt that many people would say she wasn't one.

Then again, she does have a little bit of "action" with our hero, so perhaps that would count.

[Skudor]

Any attractive woman in a Bond film is a Bond girl. Moneypenny is Moneypenny - traditionally not a Bond girl, although the one in the Dalton movies came close to crossing that divide.

[Santa]

I consider any woman he sleeps with to be a Bond girl, i.e. Moneypenny is not a Bond girl.

Ah, but that makes Xenia not a Bond girl - and I doubt that many people would say she wasn't one.

Then again, she does have a little bit of "action" with our hero, so perhaps that would count.

I think she came close enough. Don't particularly want to examine how close.

[Thunderfinger]

M is a bad girl , but not a Bond girl.
What a bizarre universe where you can say something like that!

[00Twelve]

It seems pretty obvious to me which girls are "Bond girls." The stunning beauties, good and bad, are Bond girls, while less glamorous girls are not, such as the more "quaint" Moneypenny (pretty, but not leading lady calibre), Rosa Klebb, or M.

Edited by 00Twelve, 11 October 2006 - 08:25 PM.

[Qwerty]

It will always be personal opinion because no one ever agrees on everything.

[Daddy Bond]

I consider any woman he sleeps with to be a Bond girl, i.e. Moneypenny is not a Bond girl.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that make the following NOT Bond girls:

Tillie Masterson
Paula Caplan
Jenny Flex (A View to a Kill)
Xenia Onatopp

I think I agree that "Any attractive woman in a Bond film is a Bond girl." maybe with this addition: "Any attractive woman who had any significant interaction with Bond in a Bond film is a Bond girl."

Since Moneypenny is a tad below what I deem attractive (not ugly).

Regards

[Santa]

I probably wouldn't call Tilly and Jenny proper Bond girls. Paula I always assumed got the benefit of Bond in private, Zenia I think came close enough.

[Atomic Agent]

I always thought of a Bond girl as being one of his girls. Not necessarily one that he's slept with, but one that he would fight for, I guess. The bad girls aren't Bond girls, to me. They're bad girls in Bond's world, but not his, so to speak. But thats only my point of view.

cheers

[Daddy Bond]

I always thought of a Bond girl as one that he would fight for, I guess. The bad girls aren't Bond girls, to me. They're bad girls in Bond's world, but not his, so to speak. But thats only my point of view.

cheers

Some were a bit of both - take Ms. Galore for example.

Regards

[Daddy Bond]

Another thought. It seems like Bond girls could be defined in one of four ways:

#1 - Any beautiful girl in a Bond film (just about any pretty face that shows up on screen) - could include such girls as Dink in TB.
#2 - Any beautiful girl that has an somewhat important role (good or bad) - could include the girl in the helicopter/brown bikini in TSWLM.
#3 - Any beautiful girl that had significant interaction with Bond (good or bad) - this would include BOTH girls like Xenia and Christmas.
#4 - Only a beautiful girl who was generally good and was also truly Bond's girl (eventually - even if she started off as his enemy - she had to end up on his side).

Regards

[Double-0-7]

Right, there will always be differences of opinion on something like this.

I think the bad girls are included - assuming attractiveness and interaction with Bond. Every time a Bond movie comes out there is some magazine or TV blurb about the Girls of Bond or some other play on words. They usually show all the beauties that are part of a Bond movie, no matter what side they morally fall on.

That collection is what I think of as "Bond Girls".

[DaveBond21]

I am confused now!

So from what we have come up with, is Bibi Dahl not a Bond girl?

[Double-Oh Agent]

Any attractive woman in a Bond film is a Bond girl. Moneypenny is Moneypenny - traditionally not a Bond girl, although the one in the Dalton movies came close to crossing that divide.

I agree with this although I could accept Moneypenny as a Bond girl.

Anyway, for my money, all attractive women in the films are Bond girls. THE Bond girls, however, are the main love interests.