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[JCRendle]

Why, when talking about Bond, do we say "tux" as Bond, being British, would call it a dinner jacket.

[Vauxhall]

Interesting, had never really thought of that - suppose I've just accepted it. The powerful American film industry and marketing forces I guess is the main reason.

[DamnCoffee]

Tux sounds alot Better

[JCRendle]

Does Bond were a DJ in Casino Royale? Yes he does!

[Red Barchetta]

Does Bond were a DJ in Casino Royale? Yes he does!

So, are you saying that Bond IS a dinner jacket?

[Captain Grimes]

Well, I think this is one instance when the Americanism is better than its British counterpart. "Tuxedo" is an interesting word, a little exotic (with the uncommon x and its American Indian derivation), a little out of the ordinary--as the tuxedo itself has become. "Dinner jacket," on the other hand, seems commonplace and somewhat drab: something better suited to a waiter than an international man of mystery.

Does Bond himself ever use the word "tuxedo" in any of the films? Or "dinner jacket," for that matter?

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Bond dresses black tie.


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[Skudor]

Tux sounds alot Better

It sure does.

[Atomic Agent]

Doesn't the 'tuxedo' include everything? Pants, shirt, bow-tie?

[Santa]

Bond dresses black tie.


(How's that work?)

That's what works best for me.

[Jericho_One]

Forgive me american friends, although I too use the word "tuxedo", don't expressions like "dinner jacket" or "black tie" strike you as more classy?

[Captain Grimes]

Forgive me american friends, although I too use the word "tuxedo", don't expressions like "dinner jacket" or "black tie" strike you as more classy?

"Black tie," yes. "Dinner jacket," no. For the somewhat tortured reasons I gave above.

[Bryce (003)]

"Black Tie" is my preferred term as opposed to "Formal".

Odd though, as I refer to my own tuxedo simply as my tux, but its counter part, my white jacket as my "dinner jacket".

Never really gave it much thought until this thread.

Funny.

[Red Barchetta]

"Black Tie" is my preferred term as opposed to "Formal".

Odd though, as I refer to my own tuxedo simply as my tux, but its counter part, my white jacket as my "dinner jacket".

Never really gave it much thought until this thread.

Funny.

I agree. That is how I refer to mine as well...

[Mister Asterix]

Doesn't the 'tuxedo' include everything? Pants, shirt, bow-tie?

UK Definitions from the Cambridge Dictionary:

dinner jacket UK noun [C] (ABBREVIATION DJ, US tuxedo)
a man's black or white jacket worn at formal social events, usually in the evening, with matching trousers and a bow tie

tuxedo (plural tuxedos)
noun [C] (INFORMAL tux)
MAINLY US FOR dinner jacket

[mra]American Definitions from Webster

[DamnCoffee]

Thanx Asterix

[marktmurphy]

Why, when talking about Bond, do we say "tux" as Bond, being British, would call it a dinner jacket.

I never say tux- always 'dinner suit'.

[DamnCoffee]

I always refer to it as Tux it sound so much like Classic Bond

[Vauxhall]

I always refer to it as Tux it sound so much like Classic Bond

But therein lies the question. How did it come to become known as a tux in Bond films when he himself is British? I suppose it is general Americanisation of words that has come into use. Not necessarily a bad thing of course! Just interesting to note.

[avl]

I always refer to it as Tux it sound so much like Classic Bond

But therein lies the question. How did it come to become known as a tux in Bond films when he himself is British? I suppose it is general Americanisation of words that has come into use. Not necessarily a bad thing of course! Just interesting to note.

I didn't know it had until I started reading messages on here. I'd always thought of Bond as wearing a dinner jacket. Is it referred to as a tux in any of the films? I don't recall

[Captain Grimes]

"Black tie" or "dinner jacket" is the correct terminology.

If you're British, that is. It's perfectly correct for Americans to use "tuxedo." The real question here, it seems, is did Bond himself ever say "tuxedo" instead of "dinner jacket" or "black tie"? If he did, then that would be incorrect--or at least a little strange. But I can't remember an occasion when he did. Can anybody else?