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[Qwerty]

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CBn Reviews 'Tomorrow Never Dies'

Forum members review the eighteenth James Bond film

[Qwerty]

I gave it a 10. My review is in the article.

[DLibrasnow]

I gave it a generous 3.

[JimmyBond]

I gave it a nine. Truly Brosnan's best Bond film, and the film that should have been the template for his run, sadly he wanted to "act" and we got the dull and dreary The World is not Enough. Still, they rebounded with Die Another Day, so it's not all bad.

[DamnCoffee]

I like TND very much, a really good movie with a fantastic Cast IMO Spottiswood did a great job

[Genrewriter]

I give it a 9, only the lack of a truly great henchman keeps it from a ten.

[trumanlodge89]

I gave it an 8. Also, thanks for putting another one of my reviews in the article. It never fails to make me feel like a real writer.

Edited by trumanlodge89, 24 August 2006 - 06:19 PM.

[Qwerty]

I gave it an 8. Also, thanks for putting another one of my reviews in the article. It never fails to make me feel like a real writer.

No problem.

If you want to contribute to another similar thread (and I welcome everyone to do this of course), check out The Best of Bond: #1.

[Agent 76]

I gave it a 7, mostly because is a good/strong follow up to GoldenEye.

But this movie is also great for other reasons, such as:

- the fantastic pre-titles sequence;
- the exciting music of the film;
- the well done car chase scene in Berlim(classic).

[Double-0-Seven]

I gave it a nine. It's my second favorite Brosnan film.

[Publius]

An 8. The movie's biggest flaw was Elliot Carver's whininess. "Not to me", the karate action, and his squealing death (a bloodcurdling scream would have given the "people what they want") are enough to knock it down a notch. Little weaknesses here and there (like "Surrender" not being the title song, or lost potential that permeates the air at times) knock it down the other.

Great fun all around, though.

[Blonde Bond]

I gave it glorious ten. One of the finest, imo.
It's very much of Brosnan's show, it has the action from brosnan's bond flicks, still having this certain classic feel to it, and it also has many cheesy lines. With the greatest movie villain from Brosnan era; nutcase media mogul who kills/starts wars so he gets his headlines ! Pryce was a great casting choise for the role of Elliot Carver.

It also had two very beatiful bond girls.

All in all, good James Bond flick.

Edited by Blonde Bond, 27 August 2006 - 01:26 PM.

[Diabolik]

Gave it a 9. THe best Brosnan Bond flick made and #6 on my list of overall best Bond films.

[Matt_13]

6 for me.

[Shadow Syndicate]

A 6. It's just ok

[dinovelvet]

Yeah 6 sounds about right to me. I love the first half up to the car park chase, its classic (yet modern) Bond, but as soon as the action switches to Asia, it becomes a completely different (and not as good) film with sub-John Woo action and a climax that's a poor man's TSWLM.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I give it a 9. Action-packed and thoroughly entertaining (love the PTS and carpark chase) with Pierce Brosnan's best performance as 007.

[Icebreaker]

Six.

Weak plot. Too much action. Brosnan was good, but a little too melodramatic. This was a decent follow up to GE but took the series in the wrong direction w/ Rambo Bond.


Take 'er easy
-matthew

[Harmsway]

I'll give it a 4.

Weak plot, poor atmosphere, poor dialogue, okay action, and the occaisional decent moment.

[MarcAngeDraco]

Six.

Weak plot. Too much action. Brosnan was good, but a little too melodramatic. This was a decent follow up to GE but took the series in the wrong direction w/ Rambo Bond.


Take 'er easy
-matthew

I'll give it a 4.

Weak plot, poor atmosphere, poor dialogue, okay action, and the occaisional decent moment.

I totally agree with the comments above, I gave it a 5.

[avl]

The only Bond film I can not sit through any more. 1. Harsh but true

[JimmyBond]

I gave it a nine. Truly Brosnan's best Bond film, and the film that should have been the template for his run, sadly he wanted to "act" and we got the dull and dreary The World is not Enough. Still, they rebounded with Die Another Day, so it's not all bad.

I still stand by my original post in this thread. I'd probably bump the rating up to a ten if I could.

As I mentioned above, this really should have been Brosnan's Goldfinger: a film that set the stanard for all of Brosnan's films to follow. I don't mind the action scenes in this film because they're actually good! The pre-titles, the car chase, bike chase, even the finale, they're all great action sequences and perfectly showcase that a Bond film can survive on action alone, if done right.

The plot is a throw-away, just an excuse for the action. As I said above, I love this film because it isnt trying to be pretentious or trying to pretend to be a great film, it is what it is: An action film starring James Bond

[Qwerty]

The only Bond film I can not sit through any more. 1. Harsh but true

Ouch.

[Harmsway]

As I said above, I love this film because it isnt trying to be pretentious or trying to pretend to be a great film, it is what it is: An action film starring James Bond

A lack of pretentiousness, while refreshing, does not make a film necessarily good. The action sequences in TOMORROW NEVER DIES are really just okay - nothing extraordinary. The dialogue is awful. The acting is up-and-down. The settings and atmosphere are remarkably poor.

I like the fact that it's just going for fun, but I wish it had gone for fun in a better fashion than it did.

[JimmyBond]

The settings are decent, nothing great. Certainly none of the travellogue feel that the earlier Bonds (and CR it appears) had. They do their job though, and the film I think is full of atmosphere, Arnold's score really works in this film (about the only film where his score is complimentary).

The action scenes are what really sell this film for me, the teaser is breathtaking, the car chase works because of Arnold's music. The bike chase has always been a favorite of mine, but here the music actually detracts from it (how many times can you repeat the chords of the Bond theme?). The finale on the stealth boat has been derided by many over the years, but I feel it is Brosnan's Bond at his best.

The dialouge? Considering what we got in the next two films, TND is Shakespeare in dialogue.

[Turn]

The settings are decent, nothing great. Certainly none of the travellogue feel that the earlier Bonds (and CR it appears) had. They do their job though, and the film I think is full of atmosphere, Arnold's score really works in this film (about the only film where his score is complimentary).

The action scenes are what really sell this film for me, the teaser is breathtaking, the car chase works because of Arnold's music. The bike chase has always been a favorite of mine, but here the music actually detracts from it (how many times can you repeat the chords of the Bond theme?). The finale on the stealth boat has been derided by many over the years, but I feel it is Brosnan's Bond at his best.

The dialouge? Considering what we got in the next two films, TND is Shakespeare in dialogue.

My feelings exactly. I'll take what TND offers, a throwback to the middle period Moore films, as opposed to the seriousness over creative fun approach of most of the other Brosnan era Bonds. Even Bros looks like he's having fun in this one.

[CM007]

Man I just love this film...I love the fact that it showed Bond having an ex-Girlfriend and the fact that he left her because hewas still effected by Tracy

[Harmsway]

The settings are decent, nothing great. Certainly none of the travellogue feel that the earlier Bonds (and CR it appears) had.

The location work pales even in comparison to DIE ANOTHER DAY, which at least had lively and striking locations. Nothing in this film compares to DAD's Havana or Iceland.

They do their job though, and the film I think is full of atmosphere, Arnold's score really works in this film (about the only film where his score is complimentary).

I don't think the film has much worthwhile atmosphere. The PTS and the scenes in Bond's hotel room and the Ha Long Bay scene, sure, but most of it is just indoor technological centers that are positively awful. There's nothing particularly elegant about this movie at all - and Bond should always have elegance.

And I find Arnold's score tedious. It's ultimately just *way* too much Bond theme, not enough originality. I never really thought I'd tire of the Bond theme, but I do when I watch TOMORROW NEVER DIES.

The action scenes are what really sell this film for me, the teaser is breathtaking, the car chase works because of Arnold's music. The bike chase has always been a favorite of mine, but here the music actually detracts from it (how many times can you repeat the chords of the Bond theme?). The finale on the stealth boat has been derided by many over the years, but I feel it is Brosnan's Bond at his best.

You see, I think the action lacked suspense. It had some good ol' stuntwork, but aside from the pre-title sequence, I'm remarkably unimpressed.

The car chase? It's okay, but it's just one gadget after another, and so it's a gag-fest. That would be okay, aside from the absolutely woefully dull setting of a car park.

The bike chase? Great stunts, but no real tension.

The finale? Comes across as a poor man's DIE HARD sequence. If it had been done with a little more intensity, harshness, and less campiness (Stamper is so campy and horrible as a character, it's unbelievable), it might have worked some more. And especially now, it feels exceedingly dated as just another 90s action sequence, rather than bringing anything distinctive to the table.

The dialouge? Considering what we got in the next two films, TND is Shakespeare in dialogue.

Really? It's only marginally better than what was done in TWINE, and it just comes across better because nobody's trying to make a serious film out of it. Still, it's pretty bad.

[CharlieBind]

08/10. Flawed (I'm not keen on Hatcher) but fun.

[00Twelve]

After watching this again the other night, I think this one does get a bit of an undeserved bad rap. Although Carver is the child of Steven Berkoff's Orlov and Charles Gray's Blofeld (sorry, Qwerty), Brosnan does quite well being serious in the role. The only quips I hate across the board are ones that start with "I always knew..." and ones that end with "these days." Other than the foppish villain and a few of these quips, this is a very enjoyable film.

Edited by 00Twelve, 28 October 2006 - 07:48 AM.