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[Shaun Forever]

Clearly Blofeld knocked his head while escaping from that volcano... afterall he somehow looks different too.

Thats my only problem. Why did they make Blowfeld so different in each film?

[Skudor]

Clearly Blofeld knocked his head while escaping from that volcano... afterall he somehow looks different too.

Thats my only problem. Why did they make Blowfeld so different in each film?

Yep. There's a clear lack of consistency. I can see the move from DP to TS - but CG just doesn't come close.

[crheath]

The book OHMSS takes place before YOLT. This is why Blofeld doesn't recognize Bond.

When they made the movie, Peter Hunt wanted the it to follow the book almost perfectly. He just didn't bother patching up that plot hole..

[Double-Oh Agent]

Clearly Blofeld knocked his head while escaping from that volcano... afterall he somehow looks different too.

Thats my only problem. Why did they make Blowfeld so different in each film?

I don't have a problem with it. In the novels, Ian Fleming changes Blofeld's appearance in each one. In Thunderball, he's got a crewcut and looks like a tough Gert Frobe. In On Her Majesty's Secret Service he's got a syphillitic nose and looks like a well-to-do businessman. And in You Only Live Twice, he's got long hair and a gold tooth and looks like an aging hippie. The novel Blofeld liked to change his appearance so why not the cinematic Blofeld?

[ElvisLivesOn]

Since the actor playing Blofeld changed with every movie, obviously Blofeld is just a title for the commander in chief of Spectre. For OHMSS, Bond has to face Telly Savalas' gangster Blofeld who ascended to that post via an old-fashioned rub out of Donald Pleasance's Blofeld.. Then, in DAF, the new Blofeld as played by Charles Gray got the position by poisoning Savalas. After Gray's Blofeld disappeared at the end of DAF, there was anarchy at Spectre and the organization disbanded.

[Scottlee]

Since the actor playing Blofeld changed with every movie, obviously Blofeld is just a title for the commander in chief of Spectre.

That's not a bad idea, actually. Seriously.

The only part I didn't like was the bit I left un-quoted.

[Mister Asterix]

Since the actor playing Blofeld changed with every movie, obviously Blofeld is just a title for the commander in chief of Spectre.

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[Blonde Bond]

Ah, I think Blofeld just didn't know anything about that...whathisnamewas--ah, Lazemby fella. He thought he was going to meet Sean Connery's Bond.

Yeah, that must be it !

[DamnCoffee]

The more i watch OHMSS the more i think Blofeld knew he was Bond from the very beginning - just the case of where and when to do something about it

[maxsterling]

Maybe it wasn't Blofeld at all. Maybe, just maybe it was Kojack in desguise.
Hmmmmmmm.....Who loves you, Mr. Bond?

[DaveBond21]

Yes, Charles Gray was a poor choice for Blofeld.

But his campiness went with the rest of DAF.

[Gothamite]

I just like to believe that every actor has their own continuity and therefore, in the Lazenby continuity, YOLT never happened and Bond doesn't meet Blofeld until OHMSS.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

OHMSS gained popularity via television, as the 70's went on, and so as a nod to its increased fame, they finally decided to acknowledge its existence, by showing Tracy's grave at the beginning of FYEO.

But they acknowledged before FYEO. Anya makes a brief reference to Tracy in 1977's TSWLM.

[JimmyBond]

OHMSS gained popularity via television, as the 70's went on, and so as a nod to its increased fame, they finally decided to acknowledge its existence, by showing Tracy's grave at the beginning of FYEO.

But they acknowledged before FYEO. Anya makes a brief reference to Tracy in 1977's TSWLM.

Yeah, but FYEO's reference was more blatant. They had the year she died (same year the film was released) and the motto "We have all the Time in the World" inscribed on the tombstone.

[00Twelve]

^^That was a great moment, IMO.

It's amazing (never noticed before) that OHMSS doesn't really acknowledge YOLT (Though it does in the credits and in M's reasoning for taking Bond off "Operation Bedlam") and DAF doesn't acknowledge OHMSS. Random. I think either 1)Blofeld knew from the beginning, or 2)The Clark Kent disguise was in effect and working.

[JimmyBond]

It's amazing (never noticed before) that OHMSS doesn't really acknowledge YOLT

Not really, the filmakers were so determined to faithfully adapt the novel, they didnt care about continuity. I respect them for that.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I just pretend that Bond's Japanese make-up at the end of YOLT was more concealing than it appeared to viewers.

Agreed, that's the best explanation there is, I think...

[Gothamite]

Also someone mentioned similarities with Clark Kent/Superman and the fact that Kent wears glasses.

Guys, the Superman example is a bad one. Superman succeeds in his disguise because when he is Clark he acts meek and introverted and doesn't let people take notice of him, thereby, not allowing people to see through his disguise. In OHMSS, Hilary Bray is a very extroverted character with an annoying voice. There's no way Blofeld wouldn't notice him.

Having said that, Clark Kent is written as a far more charismatic and stylish character today so one could easily see through his disguise.

I simply choose to regard OHMSS as being in a separate continuity to YOLT (just as I choose to view that all Bond actors exist in a separate continuity, with some version of OHMSS having occurred for each of them). Connery's DAF still remains a vague sequel-of-sorts to OHMSS, albeit a bad one.

Edited by Gothamite, 01 January 2007 - 07:54 PM.

[Kiss Kiss Bang Bang]

Well, about the recognition case... I'm not bothered by plastic surgery, glasses or anything else, but by the fact, that the art of photografy has been known for 70 years back then. You could have thought that Blofeld would at least keep JB's photoin his files...

[Major Tallon]

Especially since Bond's photo had been splashed on the front page of a newspaper with the headline "British Naval Commander Murdered"!

[Hass]

These days they'd just call it a prequel and nobody would be the wiser.

But the fact of the matter is that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is probably Fleming's finest novel.

You don't throw away the chance to make a faithful adaption of that just because the powers that be screwed up the previous film.

It's not On Her Majesty's Secret Service that is out of order. It's You Only Live Twice.

The Question shouldn't be 'Why doesn't Blofeld recognise Bond in OHMSS?'

It should be 'Why does Blofeld see Bond at all in You Only Live Twice?'

Cheers.

Edited by Hass, 05 January 2007 - 09:50 AM.

[Keir]

Just having Telly Savalas as Blofeld ruins it for me. I immediately put on FHEO- now THAT was a great Blofeld, even if you can't see his face! Great voice, sense of humour, etc. Why isn't he an option for favourite villain?
Anyway, Savalas's Blofeld is an idiot- why on earth did he put Bond in such a ridiculous 'cell' which would take a dozen men to have to get Bond should he decided to hide, if not escape? And the idea that he would chase after a double-0 on skies at every opportunity is nuts!