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#31 K1Bond007

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 08:35 PM

Marty might be persuaded back since Bond 22 isn't coming out in 2007.


I think this is a real possibility too. Previously, I think he said no because they may have been aiming for 2007. The more you look at the evidence, the more I think it is clear they were preparing for it, but decided it just probably couldn't be done. Delaying to 2008 gives them a little more time so that they're not rushing it. Campbell would certainly get some time off and then start on the next.

Works for me.

#32 doublenoughtspy

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 08:57 PM

The theory being that Sony has given way to Eon on various big issues during the Craig era, but for whatever reason or reasons wishes to have its own way on this one. Doesn't seem all that improbable, does it? Frankly, I find it hard to picture exactly what kind of "creative differences" Michell would have with Eon that would stand in his way of doing a Bond film.

But, as the crashmeister says, time will tell.


And where does that theory come from? Variety makes no mention of a heavy-handed Sony at all.

If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.

Maybe he wanted to make it too violent. Not violent enough. In black and white. Animated.

And if the script is already in high gear as a follow up to CR, and a lot of the creative decisions already made, he could have begged off the project because he wanted to make HIS James Bond, not "Casino Royale 2: Electric Boogaloo"

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 08:59 PM

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#34 Thunderfinger

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 09:01 PM

Maybe be wants it to be a black metal musical? :)

#35 Loomis

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 09:11 PM


The theory being that Sony has given way to Eon on various big issues during the Craig era, but for whatever reason or reasons wishes to have its own way on this one. Doesn't seem all that improbable, does it? Frankly, I find it hard to picture exactly what kind of "creative differences" Michell would have with Eon that would stand in his way of doing a Bond film.

But, as the crashmeister says, time will tell.


And where does that theory come from? Variety makes no mention of a heavy-handed Sony at all.


Oh, I'm just speculating idly. Nothing to back it up - it's just a theory. For the sake of discussion, and all that. You're quite right that negotiations may have ceased between Eon and Michell for any number of reasons (that don't point to a sinister conspiracy). Then again, as theories go, I don't think it's all that outrageous.

BTW,

If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.


Who are you referring to, and are you saying that Eon dumped him purely because of (I presume) disrespect towards Albert R. Broccoli?

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 09:27 PM

BTW,


If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.


Who are you referring to, and are you saying that Eon dumped him purely because of (I presume) disrespect towards Albert R. Broccoli?


I don't know who the actor was. But the story comes from a person in the decision making process circa the 80s who said that the candidate got pretty far in the process and when he was brought in to meet Broccoli he made the Godfather comment and was immediately out of the running.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 10:08 PM




BTW,


If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.


Who are you referring to, and are you saying that Eon dumped him purely because of (I presume) disrespect towards Albert R. Broccoli?


I don't know who the actor was. But the story comes from a person in the decision making process circa the 80s who said that the candidate got pretty far in the process and when he was brought in to meet Broccoli he made the Godfather comment and was immediately out of the running.


That was probably Lewis Collins.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 11:01 PM

I don't think Vaughn will be available since Stardust will still be in post-production and he won't walk away from it to make a Bond film. (Besides, didn't they already approach him and turn him down?)

My pick would be Mike Newell, an actor's director whose work on HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE showed he could adhere to a franchise's already existing tone and still bring something fresh to it. His other credits include DONNIE BRASCO, FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL, ENCHANTED APRIL and the uber-cheesy THE AWAKENING (it's like THE MUMMY but with a no-nonsense Chuck Heston).

I like some of the others on the wish list, namely Bird, Donaldson, Hopkins and Amiel.

#39 Loomis

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 11:16 PM

Newell would be a very good choice. Fits the Eon profile to a T, and anyone who can direct both FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL and DONNIE BRASCO sure is versatile (that, or has no personal style whatsoever :) ) - I suspect that Eon ranks versatility very highly when it comes to potential directors.

The only things that would seem to count against Newell, though, are his schedule (according to the admittedly notoriously unreliable IMDb, he's very busy at the mo) and the possibility that he's just a little bit too big for Bond at this point in his career. Still, a realistic choice, and a decent one. Good call, Stax.

I'd really like to see John Glen return to the franchise, although that would be next to impossible for various reasons.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 11:19 PM

Whoever directs Bond 22 will have to be a competent director....who is nevertheless willing to take orders from Broccoli and Wilson.

I think, as a Bond director, you have to put pride to one side. I am sure Roger Michell was not willing to do this, which is why he is out of the running.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 01:16 AM

he wanted to make HIS James Bond, not "Casino Royale 2: Electric Boogaloo"


Lol. You listen to Dead Pit too?

#42 Johnboy007

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:39 AM

If they're letting Stuart Baird edit Casino Royale, there's no reason think they wouldn't let him direct. I'm about iffy about him though. He brings a lot of style but a lot of the films he's directed are not very good. Can't blame him for NEMESIS, as the casting and writing was done before he signed on.

Anyway, if Campbell doesn't return I'd put my money on Baird.

(Unless of course Baird is already committed to something; I don't really know.)

#43 K1Bond007

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:00 AM

I don't think Vaughn will be available since Stardust will still be in post-production and he won't walk away from it to make a Bond film. (Besides, didn't they already approach him and turn him down?)

My pick would be Mike Newell, an actor's director whose work on HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE showed he could adhere to a franchise's already existing tone and still bring something fresh to it. His other credits include DONNIE BRASCO, FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL, ENCHANTED APRIL and the uber-cheesy THE AWAKENING (it's like THE MUMMY but with a no-nonsense Chuck Heston).

I like some of the others on the wish list, namely Bird, Donaldson, Hopkins and Amiel.


Stardust will be released in early March 07 and they've been in post since early July. They'll probably start filming Bond 22 as early as April, perhaps as late as June so he could be available. It's possible.

If they're letting Stuart Baird edit Casino Royale, there's no reason think they wouldn't let him direct. I'm about iffy about him though. He brings a lot of style but a lot of the films he's directed are not very good. Can't blame him for NEMESIS, as the casting and writing was done before he signed on.

Anyway, if Campbell doesn't return I'd put my money on Baird.

(Unless of course Baird is already committed to something; I don't really know.)


Baird kind of has a history with Campbell - I think that's why he's editing. The fact that Michell was an option before Baird kind of rules him out, IMHO.

Newell wouldn't be bad choice.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:02 AM

ROB BOWMAN would be my choice - see again:

X Files - the movie

and you will see an EFFECTIVE director.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:33 AM





BTW,


If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.


Who are you referring to, and are you saying that Eon dumped him purely because of (I presume) disrespect towards Albert R. Broccoli?


I don't know who the actor was. But the story comes from a person in the decision making process circa the 80s who said that the candidate got pretty far in the process and when he was brought in to meet Broccoli he made the Godfather comment and was immediately out of the running.


That was probably Lewis Collins.


It was, I think this is reported in the Legacy book. Well, Cubby was old, he probably just didn't felt the guy good and didn't want any complications down the line. Collins was a guy who spoke his mind, loud !

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:18 AM

Chris Columbus??

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:33 AM

I am interested...why would it be near impossible for Glen to return?
I think it will go to Roger Spottiswoode.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:39 AM

Is Richard Franklin still directing. His ROAD GAMES was fan---tastic!

Give him a go.

#49 DamnCoffee

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 12:39 PM

What about james Cameron his films are brilliant :)

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 01:03 PM

I'm fine with most of the realistic choices, but if I had my say I'd go with Stephen Frears ('The Grifters', 'Dangerous Liasons' & 'High Fidelity'), Jon Amiel ('Copy Cat', 'The Man Who Knew Too Little' & 'Entrapment'), Stephen Hopkins ('The Ghost and the Darkness', 'Blown Away' & '24'), Roger Donaldson ('Thirteen Days', 'No Way Out' & 'The Recruit') or Michael Caton-Jones ('Rob Roy', 'The Jackal' & 'City by the Sea').

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 01:27 PM

I am interested...why would it be near impossible for Glen to return?


Well, he's getting on a bit (75 next year, I believe), and I gather he was sacked from the series by MGM after the "failure" of LICENCE TO KILL (although whether that would still hold sway I don't know). His last Bond flick is popularly (if perhaps not accurately) believed to be the biggest flop of the franchise, and he's directed only a handful of films since 1989, none very distinguished (ACES: IRON EAGLE III, anyone?). His last reasonably "big" film was CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS: THE DISCOVERY (notable for a rather good cast, including Brando in one of his final roles), but even then it was hardly a worldbeater. And it was released in 1992. He hasn't done anything at all (going by the IMDb, anyway) since 2001. For all I know, he's retired (and why not?).

For me, Glen is one of the two or three directors alive who really knows how to make a Bond film, and I still think he'd be brilliant.... but it would be one heck of an uphill struggle for Eon, even if they were interested in hiring him again (there's zero popular or industry demand for Glen to make another Bond flick, only a very tiny amount of fan demand), to convince investors that he still had what it took. And even if investors were convinced, would insurers be?

I'm fine with most of the realistic choices, but if I had my say I'd go with Stephen Frears ('The Grifters', 'Dangerous Liasons' & 'High Fidelity'), Jon Amiel ('Copy Cat', 'The Man Who Knew Too Little' & 'Entrapment'), Stephen Hopkins ('The Ghost and the Darkness', 'Blown Away' & '24'), Roger Donaldson ('Thirteen Days', 'No Way Out' & 'The Recruit') or Michael Caton-Jones ('Rob Roy', 'The Jackal' & 'City by the Sea').


Of the realistic choices, my first choice would be Noyce, by a country mile (whatever the heck that is). Is he still realistic, though? Frears at number two. Caton-Jones at number three (chiefly on the strength of THE JACKAL, which I find an underrated and enjoyable action thriller). The others are all much of a muchness, IMO, and not particularly exciting. If Noyce, Frears and Caton-Jones pass, my advice to Eon would be to put some names in a hat. :)

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 03:35 PM



I don't know who the actor was. But the story comes from a person in the decision making process circa the 80s who said that the candidate got pretty far in the process and when he was brought in to meet Broccoli he made the Godfather comment and was immediately out of the running.


That was probably Lewis Collins.


Which is a shame because I think that Collins would have been excellent in the role.
I also think that since he was so well known to British audeiences through his roles in the television series THE PROFESSIONALS and the movie WHO DARES WINS (aka THE FINAL OPTION in the USA) that he would have been more widely accepted than Dalton who (despite a distinguished body of work behind him) was still lacking in name-recognition.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:12 PM

I doubt Noyce is still a realistic choice. He's doing his own thing making films like 'The Quiet American', 'Rabbit Proof Fence', 'Catch a Fire' & his new project 'Dirt Music'. Frears seems unlikely, but since he was the director of the Jinxed Bond spin off, he's still in the hat. Personally I think they are going after Amiel (his 'Singing Detective' was amazing), Hopkins (directed 'The Ghost and The Darkness' & 'The Life and Death of Peter Sellers', both amazing), Softley ('Wings of the Dove' was good), Baird (I liked 'Executive Decision'), Donaldson (director of great films like 'No Way Out', 'Thirteen Days' & 'The Worlds Fastest Indian'), Caton-Jones ('The Jackal' was good and 'Scandal' was amazing), Loncraine (terrific 'Richard III') & Barker (word on 'Butterfy on a Wheel' is very positive).

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:14 PM

i dont know about you guys but i really want Spielberg to do a Bond movie

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:29 PM






BTW,


If Eon can dump a potential James Bond choice because he called Cubby "the Godfather", I don't see why negotiations with a director couldn't break down for any number of reasons.


Who are you referring to, and are you saying that Eon dumped him purely because of (I presume) disrespect towards Albert R. Broccoli?


I don't know who the actor was. But the story comes from a person in the decision making process circa the 80s who said that the candidate got pretty far in the process and when he was brought in to meet Broccoli he made the Godfather comment and was immediately out of the running.


That was probably Lewis Collins.


It was, I think this is reported in the Legacy book. Well, Cubby was old, he probably just didn't felt the guy good and didn't want any complications down the line. Collins was a guy who spoke his mind, loud !


I'm 99% that it was in The Legacy too. I just can't remember the name and I don't have the book on hand.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:48 PM

I'd be very interested in knowing what exactly were the "creative differences" were...

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 08:03 PM

I doubt Noyce is still a realistic choice. He's doing his own thing making films like 'The Quiet American', 'Rabbit Proof Fence', 'Catch a Fire' & his new project 'Dirt Music'. Frears seems unlikely, but since he was the director of the Jinxed Bond spin off, he's still in the hat. Personally I think they are going after Amiel (his 'Singing Detective' was amazing), Hopkins (directed 'The Ghost and The Darkness' & 'The Life and Death of Peter Sellers', both amazing), Softley ('Wings of the Dove' was good), Baird (I liked 'Executive Decision'), Donaldson (director of great films like 'No Way Out', 'Thirteen Days' & 'The Worlds Fastest Indian'), Caton-Jones ('The Jackal' was good and 'Scandal' was amazing), Loncraine (terrific 'Richard III') & Barker (word on 'Butterfy on a Wheel' is very positive).


Apparently, they looked at Jonathan Glazer a few years ago (for TOMORROW NEVER DIES, if I'm not mistaken). For some strange reason I can't quite put my finger on, I think he'd work extremely well with Craig. But perhaps it's because I see him as quite a similar director to Matthew Vaughn - young, caused a great stir with an exceptionally stylish (or, if you prefer, exceptionally flashy) Brit gangster flick, but seemed to hit the big time a little too quickly and to flounder a bit.

Still, either of those two guys would be among my top picks for BOND 22, and given that they were seriously considered by Eon in the past it wouldn't appear that they're too unrealistic. I mean, I'd bet against Glazer or Vaughn doing Bond at this point, but then again who knows? I guess there may be a slight chance.

Michael Winterbottom - if you were to catch him on the right day - might be an excellent choice, but possibly a little too versatile for Eon. But, politically, he could be the Bond franchise's equivalent of Paul Greengrass. :)

Still, all things considered, I say give it to Je-gyu Kang or, even better, Chan-wook Park (yeah, that'll happen).

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 08:13 PM

Apparently, they looked at Jonathan Glazer a few years ago (for TOMORROW NEVER DIES, if I'm not mistaken). For some strange reason I can't quite put my finger on, I think he'd work extremely well with Craig.

There's a big difference between looking at a director and offering a Bond film to a director. Glazer and Craig reads like a match made in heaven, but not on a Bond film. If they would hire an eccentric director, 'Casino Royale' would be the one Bond film an eccentric filmmaker would not seem out of place. But now I think they are going to play safe. And Michell was a pretty eccentric choice as far as safe choices go and it seems EON thought he still was too eccentric. So my guess we'll get one of the usual suspects.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:08 PM

There's a big difference between looking at a director and offering a Bond film to a director.


Obviously. But you don't think they'd waste time looking at directors who were patently totally unsuited to Bond and who had no apparent potential whatsoever for their franchise, do you? I mean, I doubt they've ever looked at, say, Derek Jarman, Michael Moore, Satyajit Ray, etc. etc. That they looked at people like Glazer and Vaughn clearly means that they felt they had a few things to offer. Anyhow, I've never said that Glazer and Vaughn are likely choices - just not ridiculously unlikely ones (like, say, Mann or Tarantino). They are, in other words, within the realms of possibility, just about.

And is Glazer an eccentric director? In the Winterbottom sense? I think the hiring of people like Craig, Green, Haggis and Wright shows a newfound openmindedness on Eon's part - come on, a couple of years ago, you and I would have been in complete agreement that there was absolutely no way that Craig or someone like him would ever be cast as Bond. Yet here he is. True, it may be the case that they're planning to offset a risky choice of leading man with "safe" directorial picks, but then again if you can offer Bond to the director of ONCE WERE WARRIORS why can't you offer it to the director of SEXY BEAST or even to the director of 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE? Is Apted's SEVEN UP really all that different to Winterbottom's IN THIS WORLD? Still, Winterbottom has never, as far as I know, had a mainstream hit.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:25 PM

if you can offer Bond to the director of ONCE WERE WARRIORS why can't you offer it to the director of SEXY BEAST or even to the director of 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE?

An actor is an actor. He gets a character to play and he plays it. It doesn't really matter what he did before Bond. EON has always hired risky actors (from rookie Lazenby to Shakespearian Dalton) as Bond. Sure, Craig was a dark horse, but they hired the savest possible director for Casino Royale. They are not going to take any chances. They probably looked at Glazer and Vaughn because they thought; maybe we can mould these young talented directors (they were known then mostly for their commercials/production respectably) to do what we want? But it didn't work out that way. They hire directors who've made big Hollywood movies AND risky fare. Directors who make movies for everybody, not for a small number of moviefans/ arthouse goers. Apted made commercial thrillers like 'Extreme Measures' & 'Blink'. Tamahori made movies like 'Along Came a Spider' & 'The Edge'. But Vaughn, Winterbottom (his new film 'Road to Guantanamo' is amazing by the way) and Glazer make eccentric movies. And that's too big a risk for EON to take.