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[bryonalston]

If Bond is going to be semi-mourning the death of Vesper in Bond 22 and Mr. White is going to escape Bond's clutches, why can't Fleming's YOLT be adapted and expanded for the screen. The title can still be 'Risico' and Mr. White can simply replace Blofeld. By expanding the plot, I mean giving it the same treatment they gave CR. Also, I don't think that Bond should be an alcoholic or whatever (that might be a bit too much for the general public to handle) and he shouldn't kill Mr. White at the end (I want him around as long as possible, at least a trilogy.) The plot would look something like this:

In the PTS, Bond is on some generic type mission that somehow involves mysterious case containing "Magic 44." This falls into the hands of Mr. White's goons, who escape . Bond doesn't know what Magic 44 is, but he knows that Mr. White is involved, so it must be bad. M, who is furious that Bond botched the mission, gives him an ultimatum: he go on leave or he is sent on an "impossible mission." Bond chooses the latter for obvious reasons. He learns that Magic 44 is something else that Le Chiffre invested in impersonating Dr. Shatterhand, a noted German physicist who has since been blacklisted due to testing the mysterious Magic 44 on hitchhikers, prostitutes and addicts. The real Shatterhand hasn't been seen or heard of in over a decade and has more or less fallen off the face of the earth. Bond has to follow the little clues he does have to try and locate Dr. Shatterhand and find out what Magic 44 is. Bond is more interested in finding Mr. White and puts that as his main priority (he's still upset about Vesper's death.)

In short, Bond locates Dr. Shatterhand living on an uncharted island in (a location where Bond hasn't been yet.) He has been getting wealthy people to enter his "garden of death" to kill themselves, but only after they leave Shatterhand a small fortune in inheritance. Shatterhand then harvests their organs to sell on the Black Market. Magic 44 is a chemical that the real Shatterhand developed that would suppress the human immune system, allowing the body to accept (as opposed to rejecting) any sort of bodily modifications, such as metallic bones, mechanic organs, etc. In turn it would make it even stronger, so that a human could fight off many infections and pathogens.This means that a human (Mr. White) could become near invincible and live for a very long time. Mr. White/Shatterhand injects Magic 44 into his victims to prolong their survival (which is extremely painful for them, but he doesn't care.) When Bond finally meets up with him, he is challenged to a "Battle Royale" type game, where him and Mr. White play a hide-and-seek of sorts in the Garden of Death. Bond encounters poisonous plants, snakes, etc. and realizes that he's been breathing in some poisonous spores through his skin. Shatterhand tells him that he has less than twelve hours to survive. Shatterhand escapes and blows up the castle, while Bond calls for backup. For the rest of the movie, he must find Magic 44 in order to survive and (with the standard car chases, fights, etc) must stop Mr. White's even bigger plans.

[Matt_13]

I don't know how to respond without giving away major spoilers, so all I can say is that it won't work. Before YOLT (novel), Tracy is killed directly by Blofeld. In CR,

Spoiler

that is not the case, it's different.

I have doubts about Bond 22 being a revenge film, as in in, I don't think it will happen. YOLT would only work if Bonds world was truly shattered by Mr.White.

[The Richmond Spy]

It might work, but I'm going to wait and see CR before I form any opinions on the storyline of Bond 22.

[whitesox]

[quote name='bryonalston' date='27 July 2006 - 19:07' post='578547']
If Bond is going to be semi-mourning the death of Vesper in Bond 22 and Mr. White is going to escape Bond's clutches, why can't Fleming's YOLT be adapted and expanded for the screen. The title can still be 'Risico' and Mr. White can simply replace Blofeld. By expanding the plot, I mean giving it the same treatment they gave CR. Also, I don't think that Bond should be an alcoholic or whatever (that might be a bit too much for the general public to handle) and he shouldn't kill Mr. White at the end (I want him around as long as possible, at least a trilogy.) The plot would look something like this:

In the PTS, Bond is on some generic type mission that somehow involves mysterious case containing "Magic 44."


I always thought that "Magic 44" could be a good title.

[Harmsway]

A faithful adaptation of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE would *not* work as a follow-up to CASINO ROYALE. And the whole Mr. White plot you've speculated on isn't viable because the ending of CASINO ROYALE really makes it a no-go (and Mr. White isn't the leader anyhow - he's just somebody in the chain of command).

[K1Bond007]

Mr. White isn't the leader anyhow - he's just somebody in the chain of command.

It is rather odd to see so many people speculate about this character given everything that has been announced or leaked. I don't know, they may be right since we know they've made changes to the script since the December draft, but this guy, from what we know, is nothing more than a Count Lippe. The guy behind the guy behind the guy, and probably one of many. It'll be interesting to see if they changed this character at all. He seemed pretty fleshed out given his screen time; I can't imagine them changing it all that much beyond a different ending.

[spynovelfan]

'Bond gets amnesia? Man, how desperate are they to rip off Bourne?'

'What, we're going to have James Bond Junior adventures now? Half-Japanese James Bond Junior?'

'Oh, the Blofeld guy who killed his wife just *happens* to be in Japan, too! How *convenient* for Mr Bond!'

'Isn't this just a rip-off of the one they did with the bald guy in the Sixies? What was he called - Dr Evil?'

[K1Bond007]

So sad, so true.

[Double-O-Kevin]

K1Bond007:
[/quote]He seemed pretty fleshed out given his screen time[quote]

But that is the wonder of it all. How often did we see Blofeld's face before we found out just who exactly he was. I mean, it could very well be that EON is keeping Mr. White on the 'downlow' to keep us hanging on with mystery.
I admit that I am biased about the issue, for I truly do want Mr. White to be El Queso Grande ("The Big Cheese"), but none of us can really have a definite answer about the guy. Additionally, many of us have not read the script as a lot of people on CBn have claimed. Much confusion...

[Vauxhall]

I mean, it could very well be that EON is keeping Mr. White on the 'downlow' to keep us hanging on with mystery.

Well he's not really on the "downlow" I would suggest. All the evidence shows that he is part of a larger organisation, and he's actually not especially mysterious either. As mentioned in the Casino Royale Spoilers section, there is a big debate over Mr White's fate, but what most people who have read the script seem to agree that he is not going to be a Blofeld-type villain.

[Double-O-Kevin]

Vauxhall:

most people who have read the script seem to agree that he is not going to be a Blofeld-type villain.

Thank you for bringing that to my attention, Vauxhall. I guess my hope is faint. Oh well. I wonder who will be the "ultimate" villain in subsequent movies if there is one...hmm......

Edited by Double-O-Kevin, 07 August 2006 - 11:58 PM.

[Scottlee]

I really liked the idea in the original post, especially the Garden of Death thing involving face-offs amidst a dangerous terrain of traps and snakes etc. I don't think the idea should be shot down because of the continuation problems within the series as a whole. Characters can always be switched and little details altered to make evetything fit.

[mttvolcano]

If Bond is going to be semi-mourning the death of Vesper in Bond 22 and Mr. White is going to escape Bond's clutches, why can't Fleming's YOLT be adapted and expanded for the screen. The title can still be 'Risico' and Mr. White can simply replace Blofeld. By expanding the plot, I mean giving it the same treatment they gave CR. Also, I don't think that Bond should be an alcoholic or whatever (that might be a bit too much for the general public to handle) and he shouldn't kill Mr. White at the end (I want him around as long as possible, at least a trilogy.) The plot would look something like this:

In the PTS, Bond is on some generic type mission that somehow involves mysterious case containing "Magic 44." This falls into the hands of Mr. White's goons, who escape . Bond doesn't know what Magic 44 is, but he knows that Mr. White is involved, so it must be bad. M, who is furious that Bond botched the mission, gives him an ultimatum: he go on leave or he is sent on an "impossible mission." Bond chooses the latter for obvious reasons. He learns that Magic 44 is something else that Le Chiffre invested in impersonating Dr. Shatterhand, a noted German physicist who has since been blacklisted due to testing the mysterious Magic 44 on hitchhikers, prostitutes and addicts. The real Shatterhand hasn't been seen or heard of in over a decade and has more or less fallen off the face of the earth. Bond has to follow the little clues he does have to try and locate Dr. Shatterhand and find out what Magic 44 is. Bond is more interested in finding Mr. White and puts that as his main priority (he's still upset about Vesper's death.)

In short, Bond locates Dr. Shatterhand living on an uncharted island in (a location where Bond hasn't been yet.) He has been getting wealthy people to enter his "garden of death" to kill themselves, but only after they leave Shatterhand a small fortune in inheritance. Shatterhand then harvests their organs to sell on the Black Market. Magic 44 is a chemical that the real Shatterhand developed that would suppress the human immune system, allowing the body to accept (as opposed to rejecting) any sort of bodily modifications, such as metallic bones, mechanic organs, etc. In turn it would make it even stronger, so that a human could fight off many infections and pathogens.This means that a human (Mr. White) could become near invincible and live for a very long time. Mr. White/Shatterhand injects Magic 44 into his victims to prolong their survival (which is extremely painful for them, but he doesn't care.) When Bond finally meets up with him, he is challenged to a "Battle Royale" type game, where him and Mr. White play a hide-and-seek of sorts in the Garden of Death. Bond encounters poisonous plants, snakes, etc. and realizes that he's been breathing in some poisonous spores through his skin. Shatterhand tells him that he has less than twelve hours to survive. Shatterhand escapes and blows up the castle, while Bond calls for backup. For the rest of the movie, he must find Magic 44 in order to survive and (with the standard car chases, fights, etc) must stop Mr. White's even bigger plans.

I like the idea.