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[daniel craig kirit]

Don't Ya agree? Its 007 first mission in the double-0-section where he see the guy acquiring his 00 status and having his first and most crucial relations with Vesper and Solange.Not to mention that 007 questions his moral virtues abt life and death and quiting the secret service.There is a pararrel in the Fleming novel where Bond want to side with the bad guys as he sees no difference in what he is doing i.e Killing others and what the villains are doing.He has those dark thoughts. Hope it gets in the movie coz it will show the failabile version of bond that one isn't use 2.

[JCRendle]

I think I am speaking for everyone - pro/anti-casino royale - when I say, wait till you seen the film before you start calling it the "best"

[Tarl_Cabot]

The best???? It hasn't debuted yet...that's kinda premature don't you think to call it the best? From Russia with Love is still safe for a few more months.

[Loomis]

From Russia with Love is still safe for a few more months.

For me, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN remains on the throne. Although I'm aware that many Bond fans believe it should be in it.

I do, however, think that CASINO ROYALE will be one of the better Bond flicks, probably the best since LICENCE TO KILL, which is reason enough to get excited.

[Tarl_Cabot]

From Russia with Love is still safe for a few more months.

For me, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN remains on the throne. Although I'm aware that many Bond fans believe it should be in it.

I do, however, think that CASINO ROYALE will be one of the better Bond flicks, probably the best since LICENCE TO KILL, which is reason enough to get excited.

You are truly in your own private Phuket with that choice Loomis!

But if Casino Royale is the best 007 flick since the 80s, as I hope it is, I'll be a happy fan.

[Loomis]

From Russia with Love is still safe for a few more months.

For me, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN remains on the throne. Although I'm aware that many Bond fans believe it should be in it.

I do, however, think that CASINO ROYALE will be one of the better Bond flicks, probably the best since LICENCE TO KILL, which is reason enough to get excited.

You are truly in your own private Phuket with that choice Loomis!

Yeah, well, Phuket.

Sorry.

[Mister Asterix]

I have no doubt that Casino Royale will be the best James Bond film ever.

Every Bond film except Octopussy and A View to a Kill has held that distinction for at least a week after my first viewing. Casino Royale will not be an exception, I’m sure.

[Gustav Graves]

I have the feeling that this will be my top 8 of best Bond films:

1) On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2) From Russia With Love
3) Casino Royale (NEW)
4) Thunderball
5) For Your Eyes Only
6) The Living Daylights
7) The World Is Not Enough
8) Octopussy

[Publius]

Yeah, a little early don't you think?

It'll take something impressive indeed to dethrone Licence To Kill and/or Timothy Dalton on my list of favorites, but I think CR at least has the source material, story premise, and leading man to give it a fighting chance (best yet). Optimistic about the movie generally, just still need to be blown away to crown it anything.

[Harmsway]

It's not going to be the best Bond film of them all. The classics from the 60s are too good to honestly beat, I think.

But I do think CASINO ROYALE will be pretty damn good.

[DLibrasnow]

It's wa-aay too early to say how good or bad Casino Royale is. There are some movies that look incredible in the trailers, but then turn out sucking.

[jaguar007]

I will be extremly excited if it is the best Bond movie since TLD. I might need a cigarette if it is the best since OHMSS! Alas, I will not know until November.

[daniel craig kirit]

I say let's put the money where our mouth are and bet what you want that casino royale is gonna be the best Bond flick of the entire legacy.What do you say?November17 a date and a day which is gonna make history!

[Tarl_Cabot]

I don't think FRWL can be topped. It's just too iconic. But I hope Casino has style and class and plausible action with a story driven ethic. We know the women are fantastic looking and the new star intrigues....my only hang up is Judi Dench. M should be a man again with Bernard Hill is my top choice.

[Bondesque]

It is too early to say how good the film is, however, I will say that the script is one of the best, if not the best in the entire series. The script is lean, character driven and has the perfect amount of action. It is also very romantic in a non sappy sort of way.

Hopefully, Campbell will due the script justice!

[JimmyBond]

I have no doubt that Casino Royale will be the best James Bond film ever.

Every Bond film...has held that distinction for at least a week after my first viewing. Casino Royale will not be an exception, I’m sure.

I know exactly what you mean! After I walked out of TWINE, I said "Mom, I think this is the best Bond film ever!" Now? Meh I don't recall if I felt that way about DAD though.

[I Like Sharks]

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[mra]I have no doubt that Casino Royale will be the best James Bond film ever.

Every Bond film...has held that distinction for at least a week after my first viewing. Casino Royale will not be an exception, I

[Bryan Harris]

I know exactly what you mean! After I walked out of TWINE, I said "Mom, I think this is the best Bond film ever!" Now? Meh I don't recall if I felt that way about DAD though.

Y'know, I think that's valid, in its way; it reminds me of the well-known expression in SF fandom that "the Golden Age of Science Fiction is twelve".

For example, I think CR has a good chance to be as good as I now think TSWLM is. However, I have strong doubts that CR will be as good as I thought TSWLM was when I was seven...

[Fro]

It's possible for the other films in the series, iconic as they are, to be topped. They all have flaws to varying degrees. That's why you don't generally see them on "top film" lists. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside of a Bond fanboy who doesn't think that Lucas (who specifially set out to make a "better film than Bond" when Broccoli shut him out) and Spielberg did it with "Raiders of the Lost Ark", just for one example.

"From Russia With Love" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" are probably the best from a traditional filmmaking standpoint. FRWL comes off as not much of a thriller and OHMSS has the middle third and "Lazenby is acting for the first time" working against it.

[kneelbeforezod]

It's possible for the other films in the series, iconic as they are, to be topped. They all have flaws to varying degrees. That's why you don't generally see them on "top film" lists. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside of a Bond fanboy who doesn't think that Lucas (who specifially set out to make a "better film than Bond" when Broccoli shut him out) and Spielberg did it with "Raiders of the Lost Ark", just for one example.

"From Russia With Love" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" are probably the best from a traditional filmmaking standpoint. FRWL comes off as not much of a thriller and OHMSS has the middle third and "Lazenby is acting for the first time" working against it.

You're right. I love the idea of Bond, and there are countless moments I adore, but for a Bond fan... I really don't love a lot of the films.

Casino Royale does have the potential to be one of the best, if only they have the guts to really make it different! But my pessimistic side tells me we'll never see a truly great Bond film until they give creative control to a visionary director. Doesn't it make you mad that Christopher Nolan would LOVE to direct a Bond film? And we get Roger Michell...

Edited by kneelbeforezod, 21 July 2006 - 04:51 PM.

[Broadsword]

I say let's put the money where our mouth are and bet what you want that casino royale is gonna be the best Bond flick of the entire legacy.What do you say?November17 a date and a day which is gonna make history!

is that you Borat?

[killkenny kid]

Who is Borat?

[Broadsword]

Who is Borat?

You don't know who everyone's favourite Kazakstani tv reporter is?. ALi G's alter ego and much funnier. Has a film due out end of this year.

See his reporting. Yakshamash. He likes making the gym, ping pong and shooting bears for fun.

http://www.boratonline.co.uk/

might even rival CR.

[DanMan]

LOL, Borat.

"We have a game in my country like your baseball, it's called shoot the dog."

[mkkbb]

I remember when DAD was in production everyone was saying that it would be the ultimate epic Bond film, but then when it was released it was shunned pretty quickly.

Wait till it is released, or even wait until they show it on the TV on a Bank Holiday Monday before we can decide it's ranking.

[Vauxhall]

What we can guarantee is that some people will consider it the best Bond movie ever, some will consider it the worst, some will think Daniel Craig is brilliant and some will think he's the worst thing ever to happen to the franchise.

I strongly doubt that there will be wide acknowledgement of the movie as the best ever film, but I'm more than prepared to put it in my top few films. I think that going into the cinema with negative preconceptions of Daniel Craig is a pretty pointless exercise. Enjoy the movie. I would be very very surprised if people consider DIE ANOTHER DAY better than CASINO ROYALE in the long run. The script is great - I'm sure that it cannot be messed up too much!

In the mean time, let the disagreements and disputes continue. That's what makes this a Bond discussion board - personal preferences over actors, styles and tone of movies. There is no correct answer to any of this.

[Qwerty]

Everything about Casino Royale seems to be pushing it towards being one of the best, so...

For me though, The Spy Who Loved Me sits at the top.

[killkenny kid]

Who is Borat?

You don't know who everyone's favourite Kazakstani tv reporter is?. ALi G's alter ego and much funnier. Has a film due out end of this year.

See his reporting. Yakshamash. He likes making the gym, ping pong and shooting bears for fun.

http://www.boratonline.co.uk/

might even rival CR.

thanks.

[tdalton]

Everything about Casino Royale seems to be pushing it towards being one of the best, so...

For me though, The Spy Who Loved Me sits at the top.

You're right, everything does see to be pointing towards Casino Royale being one of the best, if not the best, film in the series. There is so much potential for this film, that I can't imagine a scenario in which this film couldn't be one of the better ones in the franchise. For me, it's got everything that I've wanted in a Bond film. We've got Craig, my first choice for Bond, we've got Eva Green as Vesper (who is about as perfect a choice for the role as possible), a seemingly great Le Chiffre (I don't know much about Mikkelsen, but he looks good as the villain), great actors in the roles of Mathis and Leiter, a more than competent director (and the best director this franchise has seen in over a decade and a half), and we've got the best Fleming novel of them all to draw the story from. The only way that this film could end up being a bad film is for something to go drastically wrong in the editing room, and I think that it's in safe hands with Martin Campbell and his crew.

[killkenny kid]

The Best? We can all hope for that.