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[casinoroyale11234]

Hi
Well I was able to talk to my friends again. A few of them told me that hot word at the going around Pinewood when they left the production earlier in the month, is that the working title for Bond 22 is 'Risico' I knew little of this title so I googled it and found it had a Fleming root behind it.
I would like to stress this news isn't first hand un like the pre title thing earlier, this is just word of mouth spreading around the studio. So make of it what you will. The likelyhood I'll get any more news is very slim as these guys are now no way involved in the production of Cr anymore.

From Superhero Hype

[Righty007]

I hope this is true! The plot would probably be different since the bulk of it was used in For Your Eyes Only.

How do you pronounce Risico?

[DamnCoffee]

I think it's Ris-iy-co but i'm not sure

[Righty007]

Hi
Well I was able to talk to my friends again. A few of them told me that hot word at the going around Pinewood when they left the production earlier in the month, is that the working title for Bond 22 is 'Risico' I knew little of this title so I googled it and found it had a Fleming root behind it.
I would like to stress this news isn't first hand un like the pre title thing earlier, this is just word of mouth spreading around the studio. So make of it what you will. The likelyhood I'll get any more news is very slim as these guys are now no way involved in the production of Cr anymore.

From Superhero Hype

Do you have a link to where this is on Superhero Hype?

[Andrew]

I never did like too much salt.

[Tanger]

Hi
Well I was able to talk to my friends again. A few of them told me that hot word at the going around Pinewood when they left the production earlier in the month, is that the working title for Bond 22 is 'Risico' I knew little of this title so I googled it and found it had a Fleming root behind it.
I would like to stress this news isn't first hand un like the pre title thing earlier, this is just word of mouth spreading around the studio. So make of it what you will. The likelyhood I'll get any more news is very slim as these guys are now no way involved in the production of Cr anymore.

From Superhero Hype

Do you have a link to where this is on Superhero Hype?

http://www.superhero...ad.php?t=242404
Took all of 1 minute to find. Shame on you Righty, you're supposed to be out there finding these things!

[zencat]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

[Niwram]

How do you pronounce Risico?

(Short)Ree-sic-oh.To be pronounced fast. In scandinavia, risiko means risc. Risico is probably risiko in another language.

[DLibrasnow]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

Agreed, but its also one that has been dismissed by Micheal G. Wilson in the past. Still, I have always thought it was a great title.

[Loomis]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

I disagree that it's the best of the unused Fleming titles; I'd take THE PROPERTY OF A LADY and 007 IN NEW YORK over it as a viable film title, even though the former sounds like a Merchant Ivory film and the latter would obviously depend on substantial setting in the Big Apple (not a bad thing, though). THE HILDEBRAND RARITY is a Sherlock Holmes mystery, QUANTUM OF SOLACE complicated beyond belief, and.... well, there aren't any others, are there? (Are there?)

[Harmsway]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

I disagree that it's the best of the unused Fleming titles; I'd take THE PROPERTY OF A LADY and 007 IN NEW YORK over it as a viable film title, even though the former sounds like a Merchant Ivory film and the latter would obviously depend on substantial setting in the Big Apple (not a bad thing, though). THE HILDEBRAND RARITY is a Sherlock Holmes mystery, QUANTUM OF SOLACE complicated beyond belief, and.... well, there aren't any others, are there? (Are there?)

There are two others: MY ENEMY'S ENEMY (from the proverb, "My enemy's enemy is my friend") and THE EYE THAT NEVER SLEEPS.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I would love Bond 22 to be Risico. However there is something about this insider and I've had my run ins with them both real and fake, that makes me think he is infact fake. If I wanted too I could join any Bond forum and with some basic understanding of EON and having read the script for CR, come up with some rather juciy "insider reports" about what MAY happen for Bond 22.

[Loomis]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

I disagree that it's the best of the unused Fleming titles; I'd take THE PROPERTY OF A LADY and 007 IN NEW YORK over it as a viable film title, even though the former sounds like a Merchant Ivory film and the latter would obviously depend on substantial setting in the Big Apple (not a bad thing, though). THE HILDEBRAND RARITY is a Sherlock Holmes mystery, QUANTUM OF SOLACE complicated beyond belief, and.... well, there aren't any others, are there? (Are there?)

There are two others: MY ENEMY'S ENEMY (from the proverb, "My enemy's enemy is my friend") and THE EYE THAT NEVER SLEEPS.

I was thinking of the novel and short story titles, though, not chapter titles.

[Johnboy007]

How do you pronounce Risico?

(Short)Ree-sic-oh.To be pronounced fast. In scandinavia, risiko means risc. Risico is probably risiko in another language.

Italian, isn't it? I've always pronounced it Reh-seek-oh. You say tomato...

Still, it'd be nice to have a one-word title for a change. It's a good one, too.

[Blofeld's Cat]

"Risico" is spoken in the story by a person with a speech impediment, so it could be pronounced any number of ways (other than the one Fleming intended of course).

To me it's one big drawback to having it as a title. Even Italians wouldn't know how to say it properly and would just scoff at it being spelt incorrectly.

[tdalton]

I think that it's a great title, and I've always wanted to see it used as a film title one day. Hopefully they'll use it for Bond 2.2 and then go ahead with either "Quantum of Solace" or "The Property of a Lady" for Bond 2.3

[Gobi-1]

I think it would be great if ALL of Daniel's film had Fleming titles.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Keeping my fingers crossed that Risico will be Bond 22 but I wouldn't put any stock in the guy who "claims" to be an insider. From the SHH! boards....

"Your first three posts on this forum was you asking for the script. I think that if you had a real connection to the studio you would've been able to find it quite easily and therefore I take your report very lightly."


I checked my PM's on SHH and I did recive one from this "insider" saying he was "the biggest bond fan and was dying to see the script". He also said that Campbell would be back and revealed the whole "PTS for 22 filmed" thing. Like I said anyone who read the script could come up with that.

[Harmsway]

Risico is the best unused Fleming title, IMO. I would LOVE this to be the title of Bond 22. Also, one word titles tend to be good luck for 007. Bring it on!

I disagree that it's the best of the unused Fleming titles; I'd take THE PROPERTY OF A LADY and 007 IN NEW YORK over it as a viable film title, even though the former sounds like a Merchant Ivory film and the latter would obviously depend on substantial setting in the Big Apple (not a bad thing, though). THE HILDEBRAND RARITY is a Sherlock Holmes mystery, QUANTUM OF SOLACE complicated beyond belief, and.... well, there aren't any others, are there? (Are there?)

There are two others: MY ENEMY'S ENEMY (from the proverb, "My enemy's enemy is my friend") and THE EYE THAT NEVER SLEEPS.

I was thinking of the novel and short story titles, though, not chapter titles.

MY ENEMY'S ENEMY is not a chapter title. It's a book title that Fleming never used but wrote down in his notebook.

[Andrew]

Keeping my fingers crossed that Risico will be Bond 22 but I wouldn't put any stock in the guy who "claims" to be an insider. From the SHH! boards....

"Your first three posts on this forum was you asking for the script. I think that if you had a real connection to the studio you would've been able to find it quite easily and therefore I take your report very lightly."


I checked my PM's on SHH and I did recive one from this "insider" saying he was "the biggest bond fan and was dying to see the script". He also said that Campbell would be back and revealed the whole "PTS for 22 filmed" thing. Like I said anyone who read the script could come up with that.

I made that post that you quoted on SHH

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Keeping my fingers crossed that Risico will be Bond 22 but I wouldn't put any stock in the guy who "claims" to be an insider. From the SHH! boards....

"Your first three posts on this forum was you asking for the script. I think that if you had a real connection to the studio you would've been able to find it quite easily and therefore I take your report very lightly."


I checked my PM's on SHH and I did recive one from this "insider" saying he was "the biggest bond fan and was dying to see the script". He also said that Campbell would be back and revealed the whole "PTS for 22 filmed" thing. Like I said anyone who read the script could come up with that.

I made that post that you quoted on SHH

Now I know who to credit for uncovering a fake. Not that I didn't like what he was saying, I'd rather hear it from EON/Sony. Here's the PM by the way.

"Hi
I'm the biggest Bond fan on the planet (at least so I think) I was wondering if you could please send me the script. I've been following CR's developments since about 2004, and so fr love evrything I've seen and heard.
Please? "

I hate to call BS on this because I would want to belive it but the facts make me think different. Or who knows, maybe in the pursuit of the script he found someone who is with production but even then it's not something I would take to the bank. I have seen some poster referring to this guys report on how the Bond 22 PTS had been filmed as if it were a confirmed fact.

[Dalton]

I very much doubt that B22 wil be "RISICO". 2 Fleming titles in a row, this hasn't happened since the 80's. But should it turn out to be true, i'd have only one word, Fantastic.

And wouldn't it be good if it was announced at the end of CR???

[marktmurphy]

THE HILDEBRAND RARITY is a Sherlock Holmes mystery,

More of a Ludlum title, isn't it?

Not much of a fan of 'Risico' myself, but I'd go with it.

[Loomis]

MY ENEMY'S ENEMY is not a chapter title. It's a book title that Fleming never used but wrote down in his notebook.

Oh. Dinnae ken. But I'd actually quite like, 22 films in, "Bond" or "007" to be used in a title, e.g. WE MEET AGAIN, MR. BOND or 007 IN NEW YORK.

[Thunderfinger]

Craig should do Fleming`s first five books, and (presumably) die at the end of FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. What a grand finale!

[Monsieur B]

That'd be very interesting to see, and promising too. Then the next Bond could do the other Fleming titles until You Only Live Twice and disappear at the end of the film. Then The Man with the Golden Gun would introduce the new Bond actor returning to London.

But the chances of that happening don't look very good as Babs said that they wouldn't be remaking any of the old titles. Besides, I really don't think they need to. But seeing unused elements being used in future titles would be nice; like From Russia With Love's ambiguous ending or the Garden of Death in You Only Live Twice. Oh well, a man can still dream, can't he?

[MarcAngeDraco]

I like it, but will be shocked if they actually use it...

[Mr Malcolm]

I'd be a bit surprised too if they used it. We may all associate it with 007, but would the general public? I reckon people might associate it more with some Albanian art film or something. Still, I could live with it.

[Double-0-Seven]

This is great news if true. Risico is favorite Ian Fleming title that has not yet been used.

[B007nd]

How do you pronounce Risico?

(Short)Ree-sic-oh.To be pronounced fast. In scandinavia, risiko means risc. Risico is probably risiko in another language.

Italian, isn't it? I've always pronounced it Reh-seek-oh. You say tomato...

Still, it'd be nice to have a one-word title for a change. It's a good one, too.

It all depends on where you live in non-English speaking Europe, really. In almost every country here it's a common word (in most Northern European countries written with 'k'), indeed meaning risk. I.m.o. it would be Ris-'C'-co.
I agree it would be a great -and again an original Fleming- title!