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[Binyamin]

I'd be iffy about taking on Lazenby, which is funny because out of them all he's the one that would surely kick your because of his Special Forces unarmed combat training.. hell I think I read once that he was a instructor.

What? Lazenby was a Special Forces combat instructor?

I thought he was an Australian Down-Underwear model.... I guess they use extreme combat tactics to get their Hanes on us over there, huh.

[K1Bond007]

I'd be iffy about taking on Lazenby, which is funny because out of them all he's the one that would surely kick your because of his Special Forces unarmed combat training.. hell I think I read once that he was a instructor.

What? Lazenby was a Special Forces combat instructor?

It's true. Part of the reason why Lazenby was chosen - one story goes that Lazenby broke Yuri Borionko's nose during an audition which apparently impressed the producers; Borionko being a former wrestler turned actor - played Grunther in OHMSS.

[medrecess]

Broz has a face similar to Rob Lowes. Both are beautiful. Pierce got his scar in TND and a few wrinkles that gave him a bit more character. This helped. He never looked dangerous as Bond. He did look dangerous in The Fourth Protocol. The biggest problem with Broz was his body. Fine height but no real muscularity. He moved clumsily and definately not "panther-like" and he ran horribly. Rodger Moore had the same problem. I'm not saying that bond is a muscle bound thug but Connery, Laz and now Craig had/have a great swagger and the right look to be Bond.

To me Roger, Lazenby and Pierce carried themselves more like Kings or 'Imperial' Englishmen. Sean moved like a panther.

Daniel Craig has none of this. He moves more like a gladiator or an enforcer for the Bulgarian or Russian mob. I look at Craig and he has that kind of face they used to use, when casting abusive husbands on tv movies.

Many women do go for that kind of look but an equal number don't. I asked a couple of female colleagues just now and they kind of grimaced, as in yes, we all have to admit he's good-looking, but somehow still none of us would want him. In the end, being good-looking is a fairly empty quality. Even the best-looking man in the world needs something other than those looks to be attractive. The best looking man I ever went out with was indeed gorgeous, he was a model, but OMG he was boring. A sense of humour, intelligence, kindness and good personal hygiene are far more important.

One of the chief reasons, many women would not want a man who is as
good looking as Pierce, is because in their heart of hearts is that they know
a guy who is as good looking as Pierce wouldn't look twice at an ugly or average looking woman. I really think that your average looking woman (and by average I mean a woman who doesn't look as if she would be found modeling for Victoria's Secrets or Playb*y, find men who look like Pierce a threat.
We've all seen beautiful women with ugly men. But it's very rare to see a handsome man with an ugly woman. A guy like Pierce would really bring out the insecurity in an average/ugly woman, he would constantly remind her that she's not good looking enough to be with him.

But to answer the original question......


No I don't think that Pierce is too good looking. However I agree with many here who said that he would have been wrong for the part if he had gotten it in his mid 30's. Then he would have seemed too 'pretty'. But for when he did the part no. Because he was older and his features had hardened. Another thing which helped, is that even though Pierce is an exceptionally handsome man. He did not act or behave like a narcisstic pretty boy. Like George Clooney or Richard Gere or Tom Cruise. There's a great deal of substance to Pierce and an inherant humility that shines through.

You say he is not too good looking and then you say he is an exceptionally
handsome man.PLease clarify as then too good looking would mean more than
an exceptionally handsome man.You could explain what you mean.

I think the new Superman is definitely TOO Good Looking!

Yep.. that he is.....

Is Pierce too good-looking for Bond?

IMO, yeah, he always was. He was just too "pretty-boy" and lacked the cruelness and rougher edge I desire in Bond. I also thought that Brosnan had nowhere near a big enough or fit enough.

In his performance as Bond, he also didn't carry that underlying menace and danger. He seemed, well, somewhat "safe" rather than someone you would call a "coldhearted bastard."

Yes he was not cruel but for me certainly could be coldhearted.Not rought oo.
He was reasonably tall at 6 feet.But was a slim guy and had no muscles whatsoever.Unlike Craig who is quite muscular.
For me bond should look good in suits.Thats it.

[Harmsway]

Is Pierce too good-looking for Bond?

IMO, yeah, he always was. He was just too "pretty-boy" and lacked the cruelness and rougher edge I desire in Bond. I also thought that Brosnan had nowhere near a big enough or fit enough.

In his performance as Bond, he also didn't carry that underlying menace and danger. He seemed, well, somewhat "safe" rather than someone you would call a "coldhearted bastard."

Yes he was not cruel but for me certainly could be coldhearted.Not rought oo.
He was reasonably tall at 6 feet.But was a slim guy and had no muscles whatsoever.Unlike Craig who is quite muscular.
For me bond should look good in suits.Thats it.

Bond should look good in suits? So every bloke who looks good in a suit could be a good James Bond?

I think Bond needs an intimidating physical presence. I can live without one, but I think he's far more successful when he does.

[medrecess]

NO.What i meant was that looking good in a suit is an important thing for
an ideal James Bond.It isnt the only thing.
I dont want a Bond to be very intimidating.That wont work for me at least.

[Harmsway]

I dont want a Bond to be very intimidating.That wont work for me at least.

We've already had physically intimidating Bonds in Connery and Lazenby. And Dalton had a steely-eyed stare that was somewhat badass as well. It's been there before, and I consider it an important trait.

[JimmyBond]

I dont want a Bond to be very intimidating.That wont work for me at least.

Without that quality you're talking about neutering the character.

[medrecess]

That steely gaze is terrific and that works but for me a very big or too tall
actor would not work.THe elegance and grace is then lost.He should be max 6 ft.Much more than that would mean compromising on grace.That is the reason
why i always liked PB.Connery was very tall and heavy.But then he wasnt as
elegant as Pierce. Pierce's physical attributes work very well for me.

[JimmyBond]

Bond is not supposed to be elegant. He's a cold blooded killer who does his job with precission and grace. Pierce barely conveyed that in his four films.

[Harmsway]

Bond is not supposed to be elegant. He's a cold blooded killer who does his job with precission and grace. Pierce barely conveyed that in his four films.

Precisely. Bond is a coldhearted killer with a taste for the high life and a hedonistic streak. As Terence Young stated, "A thug in a dinner jacket."

Bond is not there to be elegant so much as he is to be cool, and there's a clear difference there.

[medrecess]

Then in that case is he someone like the character Christian Bale played
in American Psycho.A cold blooded killer to the core.
Also this means that Dalton was the most realistic as in the book james bond.

[Harmsway]

Then in that case is he someone like the character Christian Bale played
in American Psycho.A cold blooded killer to the core.

A cold blooded psycho to the core. There's a distinction between a killer and a madman. But for what it's worth, many people wanted to see Christian Bale play James Bond.

Also this means that Dalton was the most realistic as in the book james bond.

Not at all. I think Connery nailed it. The coldblooded killer and tbe "thug in a dinner jacket."

[Johnboy007]

I pretty much echo Harmsway here. He's the wrong kind of handsome, just too "pretty". Roger seemed to still have a cold blooded menace to him; Brosnan does not.

[killkenny kid]

I pretty much echo Harmsway here. He's the wrong kind of handsome, just too "pretty". Roger seemed to still have a cold blooded menace to him; Brosnan does not.

Roger, cold blooded? I don't think so.

[Andrew]

I pretty much echo Harmsway here. He's the wrong kind of handsome, just too "pretty". Roger seemed to still have a cold blooded menace to him; Brosnan does not.

Roger, cold blooded? I don't think so.

He showed it in his first three films.

[killkenny kid]

I pretty much echo Harmsway here. He's the wrong kind of handsome, just too "pretty". Roger seemed to still have a cold blooded menace to him; Brosnan does not.

Roger, cold blooded? I don't think so.

He showed it in his first three films.

I don't think so.

[Jericho_One]

I take the opportunity (thus avoiding opening a new thread in case this has already been discussed), to ask if anyone knows what kind of injury PB sustained to his face (and in what area) and in what circumstances during the filming of TMND (hope I haven't got the film mistaken).
Just for some more movie trivia!
Thanks you very much in advance.

[Jericho_One]

Hmmmm, no need for answering, already found it. Above the upper lip.
Thanks anyway.