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#1 Leiter

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:01 AM

JJ Connoly said that he would like to do a 'Layer Cake 2' and Craig said that he would only do it if Vaughn directed. So the question is: Do you think Craig will be able to do this while he is Bond?

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:07 AM

A lot of it depends on how soon shooting for the next Bond movie (after Casino Royale) begins.

Vaughn and Connolly had ideas for shooting Layer Cake 2 next year. The kernel for the script was Morty was diagnosed with cancer, and induces XXXX (who recovers from being shot by Sidney) to unretire for one last score in Morty's birthplace in Jamaica...

Edited by tonymascia1, 15 June 2006 - 01:07 AM.


#3 Leiter

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:10 AM

I would love to have the sequel.

#4 tonymascia1

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:13 AM

Amen to that, Leiter.

It was the first Layer Cake which made Daniel Craig a great choice for Bond in my eyes.

Edited by tonymascia1, 15 June 2006 - 01:13 AM.


#5 Qwerty

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:20 AM

A lot of it depends on how soon shooting for the next Bond movie (after Casino Royale) begins.


My thinking as well.

#6 tdalton

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:11 AM

I don't see how making a sequel to the film would amount to much. Layer Cake was a bad film on its own merits, and was only made worth watching through to the end by Daniel Craig's performance. I would much rather see Craig focus on new material (Bond or otherwise) than retread through another film like Layer Cake.

#7 tonymascia1

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:16 AM

tdalton,

why didn't you like Layer Cake?

I thought it was proof a stylish, inventive thriller could be made without a Hollywood "important picture" budget...

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:19 AM

tdalton,

why didn't you like Layer Cake?

I thought it was proof a stylish, inventive thriller could be made without a Hollywood "important picture" budget...


It just didn't grab my attention at all. The opening monologue with Craig was great, but after that, it was boring, poorly directed, and really just didn't do much for me. I had heard rave reviews for the film before I got it (as it arrived much later in the US than in the UK and elsewhere), and I was hyped up to see it (and to see how Craig was in it), but the film disappointed me on every level, and Craig was the only redeeming quality that I could take from it.

#9 K1Bond007

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:55 AM

I'm not quite sure how one could actually do a sequel to Layer Cake. Makes no sense. Are you sure he didn't say prequel or something? While I think LC was a good crime thriller, it doesn't really require a sequel. There are some movies where a sequel is beneficial, here it is not regardless of how good anyone feels the movie is.

#10 Judo chop

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:58 AM

Uh... <possible spoiler alert> doesn't Mr. Craig character die at the end of Layer Cake, Part I?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, ya know.

#11 Leiter

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 03:13 AM

It was left opened, but now XXXX is alive.

#12 Jim

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:20 AM

Uh... <possible spoiler alert> doesn't Mr. Craig character die at the end of Layer Cake, Part I?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, ya know.


Perhaps it would be a reboot.

Can't see why they'd want a sequel to it.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:42 AM

The movie left it open, but in the book it flat out tells you he survived. Really liked the book, but I must say I would've been totally lost while watching the movie if I hadn't read it (and I WAS totally lost in the parts where the movie changed things from the book). I always heard the author was writing a sequel novel and was excited about it. Anyone have any real news on it? Almost seems like maybe they're just gonna make a sequel movie without a book.

#14 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:26 AM

Almost seems like maybe they're just gonna make a sequel movie without a book.


Kind of like the Godfather sequels. I would love to see a sequel to Layer Cake. I kind of identify with the characters and story in some ways.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:03 AM

Did you know Die Hard and Die Hard 2 were both book adaptations, but the two books had nothing to do with each other, being written by different authors and featuring different characters? Quite interesting.

Sequel to Layer Cake? Bit pointless. The story was over and done with at the end. It was quite good, but a sequel would just be playing off Craig's Bond casting.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:28 AM

Did Craig die at the end of the first movie?

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:55 AM

aparently not. :tup:

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:08 PM

XXXX was still blinking his eyes when the screen faded to white...

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:14 PM

Won't happen, but I'd love to see a LAYER CAKE/LONG GOOD FRIDAY crossover movie, in which Craig's xXx (or whatever he's called) crosses paths with Bob Hoskins' Harold Shand, in order to establish who's the guv'nor.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:06 PM

How about another crime film with Craig/Vaughn instead? We don't need a sequel, especially for a *dead* character! I liked Layer Cake but it wasn't begging for a follow up.

I'd like him to do another action/spy thriller role like he did in Munich but as the featured player. Maybe he could do a true story about an SAS or MI6 mission in Bosnia or the Afghanistan operations post 9-11...

#21 JimmyBond

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:29 PM

Won't happen,



So sure are we? I think a sequel would be great, and if Vaughn was able to make the first on the cheap, I don't see why a sequel would be out of the question.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 06:55 PM


Won't happen,



So sure are we? I think a sequel would be great, and if Vaughn was able to make the first on the cheap, I don't see why a sequel would be out of the question.


What I meant was: a LAYER CAKE/LONG GOOD FRIDAY crossover flick (i.e. the ALIEN VS. PREDATOR/FREDDY VS. JASON of low budget London gangland-set cult films) won't happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a LAYER CAKE followup, although I get the feeling that another Vaughn/Craig crime movie with a similar vibe would be more likely than LAYER CAKE 2 - a spiritual followup, if you will (rather like Mike Hodges did CROUPIER and later I'LL SLEEP WHEN I'M DEAD with Clive Owen), instead of a formal sequel.

I really wish that Craig and Vaughn would reteam on BOND 22, though.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 07:24 PM

...I'd love to see a LAYER CAKE/LONG GOOD FRIDAY crossover movie, in which Craig's xXx (or whatever he's called) crosses paths with Bob Hoskins' Harold Shand, in order to establish who's the guv'nor.

...and Pierce Brosnan could reappear as the mute Irish assassin from Long Good Friday, I suppose? Oh, the possibilities...

Even though I liked Layer Cake, a sequel isn't really necessary. Tend to think it would come off as extraordinarily cheap/desperate if Craig's XXXX character "wasn't really dead" and had to "come back for one last job." Snore. Wasn't XXXX supposed to be on his "last job" in Layer Cake? Can they really do anything else with the character?

Still, won't be at all surprised if it happens, or if Vaughn follows Guy Ritchie's (or, as it's been pointed out, Mike Hodges') example and does a companion Snatch film to Layer Cake's Lock, Stock featuring Craig.

#24 Loomis

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:42 PM


...I'd love to see a LAYER CAKE/LONG GOOD FRIDAY crossover movie, in which Craig's xXx (or whatever he's called) crosses paths with Bob Hoskins' Harold Shand, in order to establish who's the guv'nor.

...and Pierce Brosnan could reappear as the mute Irish assassin from Long Good Friday, I suppose?


Goes without saying, although he'd now be a member of the Northern Ireland Assembly, and in a highly symbolic scene would be killed by Craig's character. :tup:

#25 JimmyBond

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:53 PM



Won't happen,



So sure are we? I think a sequel would be great, and if Vaughn was able to make the first on the cheap, I don't see why a sequel would be out of the question.


What I meant was:


I see. Rereading that it makes sense now, I just read it as you saying that Layer Cake 2 wouldnt happen. I don't see why Craig and Vaugn coudlnt team up for Bond 22 and also Layer Cake 2, in fact the more they work together I imagine the better the films will be.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 01:01 AM

Guys, guys. Isn't it obvious that XXXX is a codename? They could just have Craig come back as another XXXX, and it'd be a completely different character.

Honest.