the NEW next Bond
#1
Posted 12 April 2002 - 12:55 PM
#2
Posted 17 April 2002 - 11:05 PM
I loved the fact that after the fun and games and appalling puns of the Roger Moore era,we returned to a much more intense,dangerous Bond with Dalton. He was about as close to the darker side of Flemings Bond as you could wish for.
Brosnan sort of continues that tradition. He is a finer actor than anyone that good looking deserves to be ,but I feel that he is struggling to hold onto Bond the man amid the expected spectacle.
It may be the scripts, but there is a tension created by this that is pulling the Brosnan Bond movies in different directions.
We have a Bond that seems to alternate between Daltons intensity and Moores tongue in cheek, and I
#3
Posted 18 April 2002 - 02:18 AM
sylvester stalone eh?
he is too OLD and UGLY to play bond and u, my friend, are the biggest con in these forums....mikey g's nephew my .
#4
Posted 18 April 2002 - 11:15 PM
The_Godfather (16 Apr, 2002 02:25 a.m.):
You would be wrong. Last December while playing a golf game with a friend it is said that he is considering the role.
http://www.klast.net...d3.html#dougray
Ah, but your article quotes a second party, a go-between who claims that this is what was said, rather than taking it straight from the horse's mouth. The article I remember quotes Dougray Scott himself. If I can find the article I will post a link to it.
Dave
#5
Posted 18 April 2002 - 11:27 PM
Dougray Scott was considered the obvious candidate but turned down the role as he felt he couldn't better Connery's performance. He said: "I'm very flattered that people consider me good enough to play James Bond. But I couldn't play that part any better than Sean did. To be honest, I'm not convinced I am suave enough. I wouldn't even play one of the baddies."
Whereas the spin doctor (let me repeat that- SPIN DOCTOR) said: "I asked Dougray about Bond and it's obvious there have been unofficial approaches made. It's clear to me that if he was asked, he'd take it."
So we have the actor himself doubting his abilities vs. the inference of a man whose job is to pull the old switcheroo and make something out of nothing, to put a new spin on news and gossip. Don't count on Whelan to be 100% accurate, esp. when he's just making an inference.
Dave
#6
Posted 19 April 2002 - 06:43 AM
rubixcub (19 Apr, 2002 12:27 a.m.):
Now I've got something- I couldn't find the article itself, but I found the quote from Dougray Scott:
Dougray Scott was considered the obvious candidate but turned down the role as he felt he couldn't better Connery's performance. He said: "I'm very flattered that people consider me good enough to play James Bond. But I couldn't play that part any better than Sean did. To be honest, I'm not convinced I am suave enough. I wouldn't even play one of the baddies."
Whereas the spin doctor (let me repeat that- SPIN DOCTOR) said: "I asked Dougray about Bond and it's obvious there have been unofficial approaches made. It's clear to me that if he was asked, he'd take it."
So we have the actor himself doubting his abilities vs. the inference of a man whose job is to pull the old switcheroo and make something out of nothing, to put a new spin on news and gossip. Don't count on Whelan to be 100% accurate, esp. when he's just making an inference.
Dave
In the current GQ Dougray is again asked about playing Bond.He replies
"I'd consider it.Of course i would.But big Sean Connery did such a great job and with me being scottish there would be comparisons...
BTW in the pics that accompany the piece Dougray is nowhere near handsome enough to play the role.
#7
Posted 19 April 2002 - 06:47 PM
sainttemplar (19 Apr, 2002 07:43 a.m.):
rubixcub (19 Apr, 2002 12:27 a.m.):
Now I've got something- I couldn't find the article itself, but I found the quote from Dougray Scott:
Dougray Scott was considered the obvious candidate but turned down the role as he felt he couldn't better Connery's performance. He said: "I'm very flattered that people consider me good enough to play James Bond. But I couldn't play that part any better than Sean did. To be honest, I'm not convinced I am suave enough. I wouldn't even play one of the baddies."
Whereas the spin doctor (let me repeat that- SPIN DOCTOR) said: "I asked Dougray about Bond and it's obvious there have been unofficial approaches made. It's clear to me that if he was asked, he'd take it."
So we have the actor himself doubting his abilities vs. the inference of a man whose job is to pull the old switcheroo and make something out of nothing, to put a new spin on news and gossip. Don't count on Whelan to be 100% accurate, esp. when he's just making an inference.
Dave
In the current GQ Dougray is again asked about playing Bond.He replies
"I'd consider it.Of course i would.But big Sean Connery did such a great job and with me being scottish there would be comparisons...
BTW in the pics that accompany the piece Dougray is nowhere near handsome enough to play the role.
Well, it won't be the first time I overreacted.
Dave
#8
Posted 20 April 2002 - 05:54 PM
#9
Posted 20 April 2002 - 11:03 PM
Pretty Much everyone who's replied to this topic (Any Time/Any Place.):
Dougray Scott would be a good Bond (or words to that effect).
[opinion] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can i reiterate once more; NO! Dougray Scott is all worng for the part of Bond. He falls into that category of 'Could be Bond, but would be a much better villain'. To me, he's just not a possibilty. His nature, physicality, style; it's all wrong for Bond. I just can't see it working. [/opinion]
#10
Posted 21 April 2002 - 12:26 AM
If you can't at least produce a picture of the man then he would definitely not be a big enough name to play James Bond.
Just my thought.
#11
Posted 21 April 2002 - 07:21 PM
Arrant (18 Apr, 2002 12:05 a.m.):
I dont have any suggested actors,but does anyone else think we may need a change of style again after Brosnan hangs up his trilby.
I loved the fact that after the fun and games and appalling puns of the Roger Moore era,we returned to a much more intense,dangerous Bond with Dalton. He was about as close to the darker side of Flemings Bond as you could wish for.
Brosnan sort of continues that tradition. He is a finer actor than anyone that good looking deserves to be ,but I feel that he is struggling to hold onto Bond the man amid the expected spectacle.
It may be the scripts, but there is a tension created by this that is pulling the Brosnan Bond movies in different directions.
We have a Bond that seems to alternate between Daltons intensity and Moores tongue in cheek, and I’m not sure if it gels (or is that jells)
I say its time for an all or nothing Bond.
One way or the other.
I would love to see Brosnan, be given the chance to play a very real bond in a sort of 18 rated Russia From Love type film.
But thats not going to happen.
So! I think in the current climate it may be time for a return to spectacle, energy, pace, hi tech, and humour.
A Bond who knows his "shaken and not stirred" and "evening jackets", and "Ladies Gun" and "Sexism" are all out of touch in the modern world, and wears them with such pride that no one knows if he’s tongue in cheek or not. A younger Bond, who loves the job and the glamour and the girls, who lives life for the moment, and seems to enjoy the dangerous ride as much as we do
A big, loud updated return to the Guns, Gadgets and Girls, and damn the realism.
phew! i'm glad to see bond is taken so seriously. just 2 words to this, though...i agree!!
#12
Posted 21 April 2002 - 08:31 PM
#13
Posted 21 April 2002 - 08:43 PM
Carver (21 Apr, 2002 09:31 p.m.):
A welsh boy, so it may be time for a welsh 007. We've had Irish, Scottish and English so why not?
Timothy Dalton was Welsh.
#14
Posted 22 April 2002 - 12:07 AM
I think he still is.Tanger (21 Apr, 2002 09:43 p.m.):
Carver (21 Apr, 2002 09:31 p.m.):
A welsh boy, so it may be time for a welsh 007. We've had Irish, Scottish and English so why not?
Timothy Dalton was Welsh.
#15
Posted 22 April 2002 - 01:37 AM
#16
Posted 23 April 2002 - 06:44 PM
Mister Asterix (21 Apr, 2002 01:26 a.m.):
We should have a rule on the forums that you are not allowed to suggest someone as 'The Next Bond' with out posting a picture and listing at least a couple of the potential 007's acting forays.
If you can't at least produce a picture of the man then he would definitely not be a big enough name to play James Bond.
Just my thought.
But does the actor who plays Bond need to be a big name? The problem with someone who is too widely recognised is that they might decide they are too big for Bond and try to stamp their own ego over the character - Tom Cruise in Mission:Impossible for example.
I don't think it matters if the actor isn't a household name, so long as he looks and acts the part and is likeable enough.
On a different note, I've often thought that had Harrison Ford been British, he could've played Bond when he was younger and less well known. He has that sort of toughness reminiscent of Sean Connery.
#17
Posted 23 April 2002 - 08:07 PM
Welshcat (23 Apr, 2002 07:44 p.m.):(edited)
But does the actor who plays Bond need to be a big name?
I didn't say big name, I said big enough name.
Big Name = Tom Cruise
Big Enough Name = Adrian Paul
And yes I think a Bond actor has to have a name big enough so when your buddy asks, 'Who?' and you answer with, 'You know the fellow who was in...' that your buddy would say, 'Oh yeah...'.
*And no I'm not suggesting Adrian Paul. He's just an example.
#18
Posted 23 April 2002 - 08:12 PM
#19
Posted 24 April 2002 - 01:48 PM
Mister Asterix (23 Apr, 2002 09:12 p.m.):
and here's a picture of Adrian Paul. (Just so I'm not breaking my own rule.)
well yes, you are breaking your own rule, as while u have provided a picture, there are no 007-like talents listed. anyway, he's too swarthy. if he has a shave i might even begin to start considering him...
#20
Posted 06 May 2002 - 01:13 AM
#21
Posted 24 April 2002 - 04:00 PM
The Girl With The Golden Gun (24 Apr, 2002 02:48 p.m.):
Mister Asterix (23 Apr, 2002 09:12 p.m.):
and here's a picture of Adrian Paul. (Just so I'm not breaking my own rule.)
well yes, you are breaking your own rule, as while u have provided a picture, there are no 007-like talents listed. anyway, he's too swarthy. if he has a shave i might even begin to start considering him...
No, actually since I did not suggest Mr. Paul as Bond I did not even need to post a picture. I posted the photo mearly to show ease of posting a photo. This is the Internet age people. If you like this Dougray Wasshisname as Bond, pop open another browser window go to Google Image Search find a picture. Then click over to the IMDb and find out what the bloke has done with his life.
Again using Mr. Paul as an example.
Adrian Paul who most well known for playing Duncan McCloud in 'Highlander: The Series' also was in The Breed as Aaron Gray, Merlin: The Return as Lancelot.
or
Here's Adrian Paul's IMDb Listing
#22
Posted 24 April 2002 - 06:18 PM
Mister Asterix (23 Apr, 2002 09:12 p.m.):
and here's a picture of Adrian Paul. (Just so I'm not breaking my own rule.)
I think I'd personally prefer Adrian Paul to Hugh Jackman. After Jackman played Wolverine, I think he's cast himself in a different light (ie more in the Mel Gibson/Clint Eastwood mould than a James Bond mould). Only thing I wonder about is whether Adrian Paul is British? I realise he had a sort of Scottish accent in Highlander but wasn't sure if he was putting that on. Sometimes he sounded American.
#23
Posted 24 April 2002 - 06:58 PM
Welshcat (24 Apr, 2002 07:18 p.m.):
Mister Asterix (23 Apr, 2002 09:12 p.m.):
and here's a picture of Adrian Paul. (Just so I'm not breaking my own rule.)
I think I'd personally prefer Adrian Paul to Hugh Jackman. After Jackman played Wolverine, I think he's cast himself in a different light (ie more in the Mel Gibson/Clint Eastwood mould than a James Bond mould). Only thing I wonder about is whether Adrian Paul is British? I realise he had a sort of Scottish accent in Highlander but wasn't sure if he was putting that on. Sometimes he sounded American.
According to the IMDB, he was born and raised in London, and he's also going to be 43 in a month, so he'll be at least 48 in 2007 which is the earliest Brosnan will step down. I think that's too old for a first Bond film. Exceptions of course could be made, but aside from all that I think he's a wooden actor with poor enunciation (he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth).
MBE
#24
Posted 24 April 2002 - 08:04 PM
Mourning Becomes Electra (24 Apr, 2002 07:58 p.m.):
According to the IMDB, he was born and raised in London, and he's also going to be 43 in a month, so he'll be at least 48 in 2007 which is the earliest Brosnan will step down. I think that's too old for a first Bond film. Exceptions of course could be made, but aside from all that I think he's a wooden actor with poor enunciation (he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth).
MBE
That's probably why I couldn't tell if he was American or British.
Speaking of exceptions they made a big one for Codger Moore. Not that we'd want any further exceptions of that type to be made unless the actor seemed really young (which Moore wasn't).
#25
Posted 24 April 2002 - 10:32 PM
Welshcat (23 Apr, 2002 07:44 p.m.):
On a different note, I've often thought that had Harrison Ford been British, he could've played Bond when he was younger and less well known. He has that sort of toughness reminiscent of Sean Connery.
Harrison Ford reminds me more of Humphrey Bogart than Sean Connery.
Dave
#26
Posted 24 April 2002 - 10:40 PM
Welshcat (24 Apr, 2002 07:18 p.m.):
I think I'd personally prefer Adrian Paul to Hugh Jackman. After Jackman played Wolverine, I think he's cast himself in a different light (ie more in the Mel Gibson/Clint Eastwood mould than a James Bond mould).
Jackman did play a courtly gentleman in "Kate & Leopold", so I'd say he's not completely in the tough guy mould. He may very well be put into a musical mould given his vocal prowess. He's rumored for potential roles in three Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals that are likely to be heading to film- "Sunset Boulevard", "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Jesus Christ Superstar" (to improve on the 70's version). If he ends up typecast in musicals he probably wouldn't be right for Bond, but who knows? First they have to get off the ground, and that's no small feat. "Phantom" would have the most audience demand but that's in development hell (and it really does sound like hell). "Jesus" may or may not happen (rock opera isn't really in right now) and Webber's first priority is "Sunset Boulevard" but there are others who could play Joe Gillis (though Jackman played the role on stage). On a side note, if Jackman gets an Oscar nod in the next few years then scratch him off the list. That's usually a good indication that an actor won't be playing Bond and doesn't need to either.
He's still my favorite candidate at the moment.
Dave
#27
Posted 14 April 2002 - 01:17 PM
#28
Posted 15 April 2002 - 10:45 PM
The_Godfather (14 Apr, 2002 02:17 p.m.):
I just hope Dougray Scot is the next Bond.
Won't happen. He's already been quoted as saying he doesn't want to do it, or doesn't feel he could do justice to the role after fellow Scot Connery immortalized it.
Dave
#29
Posted 16 April 2002 - 01:25 AM
rubixcub (15 Apr, 2002 11:45 p.m.):
The_Godfather (14 Apr, 2002 02:17 p.m.):
I just hope Dougray Scot is the next Bond.
Won't happen. He's already been quoted as saying he doesn't want to do it, or doesn't feel he could do justice to the role after fellow Scot Connery immortalized it.
Dave
You would be wrong. Last December while playing a golf game with a friend it is said that he is considering the role.
http://www.klast.net...d3.html#dougray
#30
Posted 16 April 2002 - 09:13 PM
As Bond, naturally.