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[Vauxhall]

Looking through the CASINO ROYALE entry on Wikipedia this morning, many more minor characters have been added - many of whom feature in the poker match at the Casino Royale. I was wondering whether anyone who has read the script could confirm the genuinity of these new characters. I'm most interested about "Gettler" who is said to be a villain encountered by Bond in the Venice finale. Here's the recent additions:

Dryden - Corrupt MI6 section chief based in Prague.
John Bliss - Poker player who is "replaced" by Bond.
Gettler - Villain encountered by Bond in the Venice finale.
Mendel - Banker representing the Banco de Credito Montenegro at Casino Royale.
Gallardo - Argentinian billionaire playing at Casino Royale.
Fukutu - Japanese software king playing at Casino Royale.
Infante - Deposed African dictator playing at Casino Royale.
Wolpert - American playing at Casino Royale, also an undercover CIA agent (possibly changed to Felix Leiter in the final script)
Kaminoksky - Russian poker player at Casino Royale.
Madam Wu - Older Chinese lady, poker player and associate of Le Chiffre.
Tomelli - Italian media mogul playing at Casino Royale.
Grafin Manstein - German Countess playing at Casino Royale.

I suppose that these entries could have in fact been added by someone who posts on this site! Nevertheless, quite interesting information I think. We now know that Dryden is based in Prague, and that Bond faces a very diverse mixture of poker players.... if this information is all correct!

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

It's sounds just about right.

[Andrew]

It's sounds just about right.

Does Wolpert=Leiter?

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

It's sounds just about right.

Does Wolpert=Leiter?

So it seems. He's the character that Stax mentioned who could be Lieter.

[killkenny kid]

A large number of minor characters. We'll just have to wait for the movie, to see how it all works out.

[Gobi-1]

One or more of these characters could go on to be villains in future films.

[killkenny kid]

True. And I hope they mean it this time. I think we heard the same thing with DAD.

[delon64]

think a little about the japanese characters name...or maybe say it out loud to get the joke

[Pussfeller]

Aagh, "Fukutu" is not a proper Japanese name. The syllable "tu" doesn't even exist in Japanese! It should be "tsu" or "chu". I know it's not important, but it bothers me. I hope his name isn't mentioned, or is changed.

[Tinfinger]

I love the Japanese name. Reminds me of the two Chinese girls Austin Powers met in one of his movies.

[JimmyBond]

It's sounds just about right.

Does Wolpert=Leiter?

I don't think Lieter exists in the draft that's floating around. So who knows.

[Pussfeller]

I love the Japanese name. Reminds me of the two Chinese girls Austin Powers met in one of his movies.

Love it all you want, but it isn't Japanese. It sounds more like an African name than a Japanese one. I can appreciate a joke name if it makes sense, but if it doesn't, it just comes across as stupid and sloppy. With all they're paying the screenwriters, they ought to have spent two minutes on the net finding a Japanese surname that might actually exist.

If it has to be a pun, why not "Fukuyu"? It's phonetically possible and it's a better joke.

The details matter, at least to me. This is supposed to be a serious, realistic film, not a Farrelly brothers comedy.

[Orion]

killkenny kid, the slanderous comments on this board and others stopped any villains from Die Another Day returning

[Pussfeller]

I'm glad of that. There were no characters in DAD worthy of a second appearance. Hopefully CR will introduce an interesting Blofeldian villain (to wit, Mr. White) who can make a justified reappearance in Bond 22, and perhaps throughout Craig's entire era. I'd love to see a loose trilogy or tetralogy, with Bond working his way progressively closer to the inner circle, facing down and defeating the big man in the fourth film. It would invest the plots with more depth and meaning.

Although I've always found the idea of a cross-series continuity nonsensical, I think each actor's films should form a loose continuity, if only because they can, and because doing so would allow for more complicated, interesting storylines. Villains and allies could be fleshed out and made into three-dimensional characters. You'd actually feel something when they get offed. and each time a new actor is cast, it would be a reboot. No fuss, no muss. Who's with me?

[killkenny kid]

killkenny kid, the slanderous comments on this board and others stopped any villains from Die Another Day returning

I heard that.

[JimmyBond]

killkenny kid, the slanderous comments on this board and others stopped any villains from Die Another Day returning

You say it like it's a bad thing

[Kingdom Come]

I wish these films would refrain from having soooooooooooo many secondary characters. - TWINE was fatally flawed by too many characters all vying for screen time and most of em lossing out. The more I hear about this film the more it reminds me of the dreaded LTK.

[Ourobouros]

Ok, so what happened to the Du Ponts?

[MarcAngeDraco]

I'm glad of that. There were no characters in DAD worthy of a second appearance. Hopefully CR will introduce an interesting Blofeldian villain (to wit, Mr. White) who can make a justified reappearance in Bond 22, and perhaps throughout Craig's entire era. I'd love to see a loose trilogy or tetralogy, with Bond working his way progressively closer to the inner circle, facing down and defeating the big man in the fourth film. It would invest the plots with more depth and meaning.

Although I've always found the idea of a cross-series continuity nonsensical, I think each actor's films should form a loose continuity, if only because they can, and because doing so would allow for more complicated, interesting storylines. Villains and allies could be fleshed out and made into three-dimensional characters. You'd actually feel something when they get offed. and each time a new actor is cast, it would be a reboot. No fuss, no muss. Who's with me?

Pussfeller,
I'm definitely with you on the desire to have an intersting villain that could be in the next few films as well. That would be great! Continuity with allies would be great too (Felix, etc).
Not as sure about a reboot for each new actor though.

[Orion]

killkenny kid, the slanderous comments on this board and others stopped any villains from Die Another Day returning

I heard that.

i mean what were the odds

oh yeah by the way JimmyBond that is what i mean about slanderous comments (sorry, It's in print which would technically make it Lible)

[JimmyBond]

Were there any villians to return from DAD though? Zao was offed, as was Moon (and his father). The only recurring character we might have gotten was Falco and it would be a huge stretch to turn him into a villian.

[Orion]

i dunno the American Government aren't exactly a bunch of saints are they..

[JimmyBond]

True, but if they were going to make Falco the villian in Bond 22, don't you think they would have set it up in some way? In DAD there is no evidence that he's even the slightest bit evil.

[Pussfeller]

Yeah, Falco was just an "anti-ally", not a villain.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

GALLARDO ????

AN ARGENTINEAN IN CASINO ROYALE !!!!! Well, It's difficult for an Argentinean to be rich in this days... please... call Barbara and Mike and tell them I wanna play Gallardo, cos I'm Argentinean, and I speak English very well.

[Leon]

I wonder could any of these other players at the table be seen again in future films?

In the books Mr DuPont who played aside Bond in the game at Royale appears in Goldfinger, for example.

[shady ginzo]

a few returning characters would be nice, I will miss Colin Salmon's character (as well as the obvious Q and Moneypenny) I don't see why one or two of the characters mentioned couldn't become a future Zuchovski type character

Edited by shady ginzo, 06 May 2006 - 01:23 AM.

[Simon Beavis]

Looking through the CASINO ROYALE entry on Wikipedia this morning, many more minor characters have been added - many of whom feature in the poker match at the Casino Royale. I was wondering whether anyone who has read the script could confirm the genuinity of these new characters. I'm most interested about "Gettler" who is said to be a villain encountered by Bond in the Venice finale.

Gettler is probably an assassin sent by White to kill either Le Chiffre or Vesper.

[spynovelfan]

Looking through the CASINO ROYALE entry on Wikipedia this morning, many more minor characters have been added - many of whom feature in the poker match at the Casino Royale. I was wondering whether anyone who has read the script could confirm the genuinity of these new characters. I'm most interested about "Gettler" who is said to be a villain encountered by Bond in the Venice finale. Here's the recent additions:

Dryden - Corrupt MI6 section chief based in Prague.
John Bliss - Poker player who is "replaced" by Bond.
Gettler - Villain encountered by Bond in the Venice finale.
Mendel - Banker representing the Banco de Credito Montenegro at Casino Royale.
Gallardo - Argentinian billionaire playing at Casino Royale.
Fukutu - Japanese software king playing at Casino Royale.
Infante - Deposed African dictator playing at Casino Royale.
Wolpert - American playing at Casino Royale, also an undercover CIA agent (possibly changed to Felix Leiter in the final script)
Kaminoksky - Russian poker player at Casino Royale.
Madam Wu - Older Chinese lady, poker player and associate of Le Chiffre.
Tomelli - Italian media mogul playing at Casino Royale.
Grafin Manstein - German Countess playing at Casino Royale.

I suppose that these entries could have in fact been added by someone who posts on this site! Nevertheless, quite interesting information I think. We now know that Dryden is based in Prague, and that Bond faces a very diverse mixture of poker players.... if this information is all correct!

Seems from Sony's promo notes that Verushcka's character is now called Grafin von Wallenstein (perhaps at her insistence, as it's more like her own surname, von Lehndorff). I hadn't realised Tsai Chin was also in BLOW UP.

Here's a photo of Con O'Neill, who plays John Bliss, the poker player Bond takes over from:

[Roebuck]

The German guy with the gold Land Rover - could he be a future Bond villain ? Or his twin brother?