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What was Bond doing in Monte Carlo in Goldeneye?


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#1 JimmyBond

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 03:50 PM

At first I always assumed Bond was just there vacationing when he uncovers the plot to steal the Tiger helicopter. However upon further examination I think that would a stretch, even for a Bond film.

So I think that Bond was there following a trail of the Janus Crime Syndicate. Who knows, he could have been investigating them for a long time before a clue (or instinct?) lead him to Monte Carlo and finally Onatopp. Of course we have the "girl that was sent out to evaluate him" but M could have sent Caroline anyhwere Bond was.

#2 Mister Asterix

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:11 PM

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#3 Jim

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:16 PM

He just is.

Really is a shoddy reason; but you're right, there is no evident explanation. That's very odd, isn't it?

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:32 PM

I always felt he was there because he was James Bond and we want to see him drive the Aston Martin, wear a tuxedo and order a vodka martini, shaken not stirred and the time in Monte Carlo lets us do all those things.

He was there for us.

#5 JimmyBond

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:35 PM

Yeah but doesnt it seem a tab bit convenient that he just happened to be in the exact same place where the Tiger was stolen? Surely he was there for reasons unknown to us (rather than just being there).

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:35 PM

I always felt he was there because he was James Bond and we want to see him drive the Aston Martin, wear a tuxedo and order a vodka martini, shaken not stirred and the time in Monte Carlo lets us do all those things.


Yeah, that's probably it.

Or that he could only buy such a splendid cravat and lovely, lovely pullover combination in the principality.

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 04:56 PM

He was there for reasons of convention...where, after Russia, is the next glamorous, typically Bond related location? Hence, Monte Carlo. M could have sent him anywhere, and he was gambling and taking risks in following Xenia, so where else than the iconic casino and Monte Carlo, playground of the rich and famous?

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 05:01 PM

He was there for reasons of convention...where, after Russia, is the next glamorous, typically Bond related location? Hence, Monte Carlo. M could have sent him anywhere, and he was gambling and taking risks in following Xenia, so where else than the iconic casino and Monte Carlo, playground of the rich and famous?


Tamworth.

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 05:03 PM

He was there because a secret informer told him that Xenia would be there (yes, it was the same informer who told him to prefer Shrublands, just in case a Vulcan is being stollen).

Yet, the same informer proved inadequate to inform him (or us) what Trevelyan and Urumov's plan in the PTS really was.

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 05:13 PM

Bond was there for the Monte Carlo race. He was practising in his Aston Marton, and Caroline (a former Grand Prix driver) was sent to evaluate him on his driving skills to ensure that he was up to scratch. If not, it would be Monte Carlo or Bust.

However, I think Bond would've gone for the bust. :tup:

#11 JimmyBond

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 05:24 PM

Bond was there for the Monte Carlo race. He was practising in his Aston Marton, and Caroline (a former Grand Prix driver) was sent to evaluate him on his driving skills to ensure that he was up to scratch. If not, it would be Monte Carlo or Bust.

However, I think Bond would've gone for the bust. :D


That's the most splendid explanation I've heard all day :tup:

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:54 PM

More importantly, how did a theft on FRENCH soil of a helicopter that had somethin to do with a RUSSIAN incident have anything 2 do with BRITISH secret service?? The whole plot of GoldenEye is flawed

Edited by double-O-Durg, 18 April 2006 - 09:55 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:30 PM

Because in every Pierce Brosnan as James Bond movie the CIA and MI6 (and their respective governments) must step in because the affected countries are naturally too weak to do it for themselves.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:31 PM

I had always wondered why Bond was in Monte Carlo at the beginning of GE, and I guess that there really is no good explanation for it other than the writers deciding that we would accept anything that Bond does without questioning how or why he did it. But, it does seem awfully convenient for him to just be there for no apparent reason and have practically the entire plot of the movie just fall into his lap. Usually Bond has to work a little to find out what's going on (as in TWINE, DAD, TLD, FYEO, etc.). Here, though, it's all just dropped into his lap. He's there for the theft of the helicopter, he meets Xenia Onatopp there, and already has her as one of the prime suspects before he even leaves Monte Carlo. To me, it's just lazy writing on the part of the many people who put together the script. They should have woven a bit of mystery through it to keep everyone guessing. Plus, some of the teaser trailers outing 006 as the villain didn't help matters much either.

I think that a better way of doing the whole Monte Carlo thing would have been to have Bond vacationing there, and have the helicopter stolen, and then 006 with the help of his contacts within various governments would frame Bond for being the mastermind behind the theft (using the apparent death of 006 in the PTS as a potential motive for revenge), thus putting Bond on the run while he tries to figure out who actually stole the helicopter.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 10:52 PM

He was there because a secret informer told him that Xenia would be there (yes, it was the same informer who told him to prefer Shrublands, just in case a Vulcan is being stollen).

Yet, the same informer proved inadequate to inform him (or us) what Trevelyan and Urumov's plan in the PTS really was.


Was this the same secret informer who told him to chase after Tracy in OHMSS, because her father was the one man who could find Blofeld for him? :tup:

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 11:01 PM

Bond was in Monte Carlo because he lived in the south of France at the time - just like Martin Campbell.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:51 AM

What did Gardner's novelization say about it?

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:56 AM

What did Gardner's novelization say about it?

Good thinking 99.