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Redrafting CASINO ROYALE? - revealed untrue


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#1 Harmsway

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:30 PM

I got this from MI6. Make of it what you will - it comes from a poster named Ludvik who claims to be working on set in Prague. He posted these reports, and I thought you guys should make your own judgements. Also know that these are the only three posts he has ever made on the board.

February 14, 2006
I am work in Barrandov Studios, I am proud this is home of James Bond 007! Filming also in Loket Castle and organise equipmet for shooting in castle. This is castle of history. It have like museum of torture weapons. This location for torture scene in new script. There is confusion for script, it change very much and diffcult understanding so plans get cancel lot. Martin Campbell ask change for script. It is hard for write the script for restart story. It is thought much harder than they expect. This is very much action movie, it is Bond movie!!! Modern Bond for Daniel Craig!!! He fighting all the time in story, he is man of action and Martin Campbell show this new style James Bond, man of action. He like very much Transporter film and hard action style with fastness he will do also for Bond. There is casting for Felix role now. Martin Campbell is proud he create female M and he want make new Felix role like different nationality. Script is changing so much, Felix role is more for humour and Bond girl have humour. Scenes for Bond girl shooting in late March, it is small role. Plan now for older actress is better for Daniel Craig. He is friendly. He is try adjusting for action filming.


March 15, 2006
We are here in Prague, we build new sets while they are filming in Bahamas, we has lots of preparation we do here for them when they return. Script I can report is have more changes. That's why we put down one set for villain building and we build something new again, it is different design because script change so much. Director Martin not please with script so more rewrites do again. I am hearing other writers must come back, one name I hear was Bruce Ferstein but I do not see him here. Director Martin like ideas in early script but it is for diferent James Bond too young James Bond but it must have good ideas because Director Martin like so much that script they try now for bringing back information from that script. I am glad casting all done now. It is true in my first message that they get other nationality for Felix role so they go for black actor and Jeffry Wright is wonderful actor. Last script I saw it show Felix role is like mentor for James Bond, he teaching James Bond good clothes and style of cool. It remind me like Danny Glover of older friend like father for Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapons movies. Some executives has left they not like how movie is going, they nervous of bad press and not agree on story. Surprising for the bosses the bad press and I learn they do meetings for long time, now consultants help for manage publicity. I am excited for this new James Bond! It is cool action film because it is James Bond!


March 31, 2006
There was script meeting, they review state of script because executives feel story is empty like it do not have big idea in goal of villain. They complain villain is only go for money and no big threat in story. So they have meeting and explore how make improvement. Bond films always famous for include the topical inforamtion like what is going on in news headlines. So they talk on what is going on current events and they make suggestion like one idea now is for illegal immigration for background in one of henchman character. Here in Prague we go hiring new construction workers because script change so much and we start new sets but then design go and change and some workers get angry so much and quit. I think there now 4 maybe 5 version of script. Last script I saw have many new pages. New page is mark with pink color and only maybe 12 pages does not have pink color. They look for way for making Mathis role and Felix role more intersting. Director Martin like how he do Zorro movie and Anthony Hopkins is like mentor for young Zorro. So that is other way they explore for story. They are like mentors for James Bond and he learn from them best wines and tailor suit and way of glamour world. Problem is this all near end of story and it is lots of ideas going on like romance with Vesper and then James Bond go have change in character. So that is other topic in script meeting, how make all that smooth. We now wait for them return in Prague and we do lots preparation in studio. Some designs for teaser poster I have seen. Beautiful posters! One is like romance film it showing James Bond and Vesper in embracing each other. It have mystery caption like "What if someone you never know is only person for you"? Other design shows the Daniel Craig like a shadow and he hold gun and there is ID card and stamp of 007. I am wonder for final design they go for release! This is James Bond movie!


#2 Vauxhall

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:43 PM

I think I'll be treating these reports with caution for the moment. The bad English from the poster does seem slightly exaggerated in my opinion, but that may be a trivial and unfair view on my part.

Also, the idea that only 12 pages are not pink in the most recent script seems slightly odd - what about all the scenes that have already been filmed in the Bahamas - surely they cannot be rewritten now?

But if this is true, then I think that the strain for perfection in the script is encouraging, although it suggests that Paul Haggis' work on the script has not suited Martin Campbell.

#3 Andrew

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:46 PM

If Bruce Feirstein returns.... :D :tup: :D

Wasn't it Haggis' script that got Craig on board?

Edited by Andrew, 01 April 2006 - 06:46 PM.


#4 zencat

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:46 PM

Interesting. Thank you, Harmsway. But after the whole Pierce-B debacle, I don't put too much stock in internet "insiders." Nevetheless, there is a stench of truth to all this. Stax told us Felix is not in the Haggis draft as reviewed on Latino Review and IGN, so they very well could be struggling with how to fit his character into the script at this late stage. But as Vauxhall points out, what we are seeing being shot in the Bahamas jives with everything we heard in the script reviews so obviously the script isn't being "overhauled" that much. And there's nothing in these "reports" that isn't/wasn't known by someone who watches the Bond boards closely. Could very well be a clever troll trying to start rumours of a troubled production. Again, Pierce-B all over again.

#5 Niwram

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:49 PM

March 31, 2006
There was script meeting, they review state of script because executives feel story is empty like it do not have big idea in goal of villain. They complain villain is only go for money and no big threat in story.



:tup: the executives! I hope eon puts them in their place!

#6 Harmsway

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:51 PM

I'm not putting much stock into this report - though if stuff starts confirming his reports, we'll know what to think. In particular, the "only 12 pages untouched" doesn't add up to me.

For the record, I despise the idea of a Leiter mentoring James Bond - that's the first really negative reaction I've had to any rumors about CASINO ROYALE.

The teaser poster ideas are very interesting.

#7 Harmsway

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 08:44 PM

Mystery solved - this was from the staff @ MI6:

Ludvik, you are a fake.

Three points for the prosecution:

1) You post from a US IP address. If you want to pretend to be in Prague, posting on the forums via US Vodafone service provider is not the smartest move.

2) You have another account on another Bond site and have posted VERY negative and derogatory comments about director Martin Campbell.

3) Your posts (not on this site) are composed in perfectly normal English, and not "broken" Czech/English as you are attempting here - rather inconsistent, wouldn't you say?

As you are trying to damage the film and spread false rumours, you account here is terminated.

LICENCE REVOKED


#8 zencat

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 08:51 PM

Sweet. Well done, MI6. :tup:

#9 dinovelvet

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 09:02 PM

Yeah its kind of obvious that's someone's attempt at writing in bad English. Some of the ideas were kind of fun though - Felix teaching Bond how to be "cool", lol. They could make a Felix and Bond sitcom - "They're wacky roommates, with nothing in common!"

In any case, I suspect there ARE script rewrites being done. It happens all the time during shooting of big budget flicks. TND and DAD did it so its almost par for the course for Bond films.

#10 Niwram

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:36 PM

I suspect the other nick is The Cat at ajb. He hates Campbell!

#11 killkenny kid

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 11:16 PM

sad, very sad. :tup:

#12 Pussfeller

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 11:29 PM

But hardly surprising.

#13 stromberg

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:07 AM

"My hovercraft is full of eels."

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:47 AM

Would strike me as odd, that the english would make a movie where the americans teach them everything. Bad idea, thought the idea that Bond have a mentor is good, only they should make it Vesper : the ending would be so much more powerful, what do you guys think ?

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:08 AM

Treat this cautiously you say!? well considering it surfaced on april the 1st... I would have to agree!

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:23 AM

....thought the idea that Bond have a mentor is good, only they should make it Vesper : the ending would be so much more powerful, what do you guys think ?

Vesper as a mentor? Not a bad idea having her influencing Bond into treating women properly, then betraying him, which turns him back into a womanising bastard for Bond 22. Hmmmm.....

#17 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 01:41 PM

Tsss, these internet trolls...

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:34 PM

I suspect that some fans will read the first post while missing the post that reveals it as just another trollish fraud.

#19 Harmsway

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:36 PM

Treat this cautiously you say!? well considering it surfaced on april the 1st... I would have to agree!

False though it was (Ludvig was a troll), it was *not* an April Fools' joke. These posts had existed long before, I'd just never bothered to post them over here.

#20 Dr. Noah

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:46 PM

LOL! That's a lot of insider information for a guy working on the set! He can barely speak English but he knows all the character names and who Bruce Fierstein is. Riiiiiiiiiiight...

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 01:45 AM

"My hovercraft is full of eels."

Haha, Monty Python! Those silly Hungarians.

(Hungarian consulting phrase book reading the Hungarian-English translation for 'Can you direct me to the railway station?')

"Please... fondle... my buttocks."

"Ah yes, it's past the post office, down blocks down and then left at the lights."

Concerning the Bondian 'Odd Couple' sitcom, I can only imagine what wacky foul-ups those two would get into.

**humming The Odd Couple theme**

#22 Kingdom Come

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:00 AM

Maybe those who think this report is genuine need to find a sense of humour! For heavens sake the man was having a laugh! It is obvious!

He is 'doing' a Marx brothers!