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[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

It seems that Casino Royale, like previous Bond films will feature a host of interesting villains. One of the things I liked was how Bond films always had novel ways to dispatch the villains like with Doctor No, Goldfinger, Hugo Drax, Elliot Carver, Gustav Graves. Now it has been stated that Casino Royale will be more down to earth and realistic but they can still come up with a few beliavable yet novel villain deaths. There are amny villains in this new film. Dryden, Fisher, Bomber, Obanno, Kratt, Valenka, Demitrios, Carlos, Le Chiffre and even Vesper. The ones I'm very interested in are Demitrios and Carlos. I like the setting of an airport tarmac. I wonder how they have gone about it for this film?

[Mr Malcolm]

I'd imagine that the guy in the Parkour chase will end up going splat on a pavement. As for Le Chiffre, I reckon his death might be changed slightly to make it more cinematic, although I'd still like the person responsible for it to be an assassin sent by LC's employers.

There's a lot of interesting ways to die on an airport tarmac, although Graves has already done the 'sucked into a jet engine' one. Maybe a plane lands on Demetrios and/or Carlos?

[Ourobouros]

Maybe they are waiting on the tarmac and a plane full of guano falls on them.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Maybe they are waiting on the tarmac and a plane full of guano falls on them.

That would be an amusing reference to Doctor No's death in that novel. I asked someone who has supposedly seen the script how Carlos met his end. The person said they couldn't reveal much because they were under contract, but said that his exit is "shocking". I asked for him to elaborate on what he ment by shocking and he said that his opinion is that it's a classic/back to the basics Bond kill. An interesting thing that he told me is that the script has been revised since he saw it "before christmas" and that EON wanted a scaled down back to the basics film with little CGI but MGM/Sony wanted the script beefed up to be more along the lines DAD and TND. It seems that we will be getting something more down to earth with some over the top yet belivable action scenes. I don't know if the guy was legit but what he told me goes along with the rumors of the script being revised to scale back the story and up the action. As for how I would like to see Carlos and or Demitrios die? The "sucked into jet engine" bit never gets old for me.

[Ourobouros]

Shocking? is that positively shocking?

Those 'Final Destination' deaths make me laugh, not sure they are right for a Bond film though.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Shocking? is that positively shocking?

Yeah, from what he said about Carlos's death being shocking, classic and back to the basics Bond kill I figured he may be trying to say that Carlos will blow a fuse.

Those 'Final Destination' deaths make me laugh, not sure they are right for a Bond film though.

Not really "final destination" type deaths. I always liked how they offed the villains in a Bond film. Harry Saltzman was the one who always wanted to come up with something interesting rather than just shooting or blowing the villain up. Take a look at LTK, my personal favorite film and perhaps one of the more gritty and realistic entries in the series and yet it has some of the best and most brutal Bond kills i.e Killifer, Krest, Heller, Dario, Sanchez. The Brosnan films were also pretty good in this area except for TWINE, although Renard's death was rather interesting but they should have kept it like the script where he was blasted back and impaled on all the reactor rods. I also think they wasted the scene with the buzz-saw copters. I was keeping my fingers crossed when I saw it in the theaters that Bull or one of the Henchmen would get trapped and cut to ribbons. They didn't need to show it, just show the guy and have him turn ans see oncoming blades and scream and then cut to Zukosky or Bond telling Chrismas Jones to look away or something. All the deaths that could have been. In the original DAF script, Blofeld was to die after falling into a salt crusher at a salt mining plant, that sequence was used for Dario in LTK. I also wish they had kept Jaws's original death in TSWLM which had Bond using the industrial magnet to drop Jaws into the Liparus's furnaces. DAD had some pretty good villain kills, IMO the best of the Brosnan films and are one of the few things that make it at least watchable. An amusing thing was how they originally planned to off Zao. He was to eaten by a killer whale! I'm not joking.

As for using the "sucked into engine" bit, it can be done again. During the Moore and part of the Dalton era, it seems they liked to dispacth villains by having them fall to their deaths. If you look at it every Bond from Moonraker to LTK and even GE, had at least one villain fall to their death, most often via airplane. An interesting note is that most of those films were directed by John Glenn. Perhaps he liked to see the baddies fall.

If Carlos is fried then there is always Demitrios. Personally I wouldn't have him sucked into an engine. I want to see a Bond iterrogation. Have Bond catch him and hold his face up to a rotating propeller. After he talks have Bond let him go but Demitrios pulls a hidden gun or knife and Bond either shoots or kicks him and staggers backwards into the blades. No need to show gory details. It better when it's implied. Just a quick spurt of blood hitting the plane like in Raiders and maybe Bond looking away in disgust. I woldn't mind a one liner from Bond especially after a kill. Yes, that might work but I wonder how they will do it in the final film.

[Orion]

i bet Le Chiffre or Demtetrius will have an ironic death and he's killed by something he owns. This has happened in every bond film since The Living Daylights
whitaker crushed by his own statue
Sanchez set alight with his own oil
006 crushed by his own stellite
carver cut up by his own sea drill
Renard impaled on the plutonium rod
Graves electricuted by his own suit AND shredded by his own plane

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

i bet Le Chiffre or Demtetrius will have an ironic death and he's killed by something he owns. This has happened in every bond film since The Living Daylights
whitaker crushed by his own statue
Sanchez set alight with his own oil
006 crushed by his own stellite
carver cut up by his own sea drill
Renard impaled on the plutonium rod
Graves electricuted by his own suit AND shredded by his own plane

Interesting. You may be on to something.

Doctor No was boiled alive in his own reactor.
Grant was killed with his own garrot wire.(Perhaps the most ironic)
Goldfinger was sucked out of his own plane and Oddjob was killed when he was shocked through his own hat.
Largo was killed by his own misstress.

[K1Bond007]

i bet Le Chiffre or Demtetrius will have an ironic death and he's killed by something he owns. This has happened in every bond film since The Living Daylights
whitaker crushed by his own statue
Sanchez set alight with his own oil
006 crushed by his own stellite
carver cut up by his own sea drill
Renard impaled on the plutonium rod
Graves electricuted by his own suit AND shredded by his own plane

They're all like that if you think about it. Only maybe 1 or 2 (not counting Blofeld who escapes - although you can count For Your Eyes Only and probably Diamonds Are Forever) actually don't have an "ironic" death.