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[Roebuck]

The family of Jean Charles de Menezes, the Brazilian man shot by police on the London Underground in an anti-terrorist operation, are comparing his death to an incident in the Casino Royale screenplay.

http://news.scotsman...fm?id=232552006

[Santa]

Wow, the Menezes family really grabbing every last press inch they can. I could almost admire their determination.

[Skudor]

I don't recall seeing this in the script report... The geezer in question was not specified as being innocent (nor a 'fake' suicide bomber...).

Sounds like they're going for whatever publicity they can...

[doublenoughtspy]

I agree Skudor - I just re-read the Latino review in case I missed something.

The bad part is Bond being caught killing - it's not that the person was innocent.

[Red Barchetta]

Maybe CR should change the location to Brazil, so it all ties in?

[Tim007]

The British press is even more stupid than everyone says it is.

[Qwerty]

What in hell...?

[Streetworker]

I don't recall seeing this in the script report... The geezer in question was not specified as being innocent (nor a 'fake' suicide bomber...).

Sounds like they're going for whatever publicity they can...

And given what they've been through - the illegal murder of their loved one by Blair's fascist regime - they have my full support in so doing.

However, in this case they do seem to have been misled by the customary -stirring of the British tabloids.

[Roebuck]

I'm hoping Eon won't wuss-out and make script changes to head off any bad publicity. There's no real connection between the incident in the script and what happened to de Menezes, aside from highlighting concerns about the security forces following a shoot-to-kill policy in dealing with terrorist suspects.

[Martin Aston]

Yet another piece of bad press for Bond. As someone pointed out on another forum, the general buzz around CR is not good.

[Andrew]

Yet another piece of bad press for Bond. As someone pointed out on another forum, the general buzz around CR is not good.

I doubt anyone really cares about this.

[MarcAngeDraco]

Where did his family get that story, I sure missed it...

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

This sounds all wrong. Damm the press. The article says the storyline will involve Bond shooting an "unarmed" bombing suspect who is the "wrong" guy and Bond has to clear his name. That's not what has been said in the script review unless since then Mr. Haggis decided to throw out the original story from CR and have turn in to a film about Bond killing an unarmed man and finds himself trying to clear his name a-la The Fugitive. I do feel for what happened to the fellow and his family but someone got it wrong. The media saw a chance to profit from a tragedy not CR. If anything the scene the way its described in the script review shows how bad the press is when they brodcast Bond shooting a villain all the place compromising Bonds mission. Vultures the lot of them and rubbish I say. Like Bond said "They'll print anything these days".

[K1Bond007]

Update: Bond producers deny Tube plot claim

http://news.scotsman...fm?id=235592006

In a statement [Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson] said: "We categorically deny reports that the script of Casino Royale bears any resemblance to the tragic death of the innocent Brazilian citizen Mr Jean Charles de Menezes.

"In the script of Casino Royale James Bond does not kill any innocent people."

[Qwerty]

Yet another piece of bad press for Bond. As someone pointed out on another forum, the general buzz around CR is not good.

Have to disagree - this news "story" is so pointless, I doubt anyone really cares all that much about it.

[K1Bond007]

Yet another piece of bad press for Bond. As someone pointed out on another forum, the general buzz around CR is not good.

Have to disagree - this news "story" is so pointless, I doubt anyone really cares all that much about it.

I'd would say that's wrong - kinda. As we all know the Bond producers rarely if ever break their silence and discuss speculation or whatever. Apparently this was big enough for them to actually make a statement. So.. from a certain point of view....

[Santa]

I don't recall seeing this in the script report... The geezer in question was not specified as being innocent (nor a 'fake' suicide bomber...).

Sounds like they're going for whatever publicity they can...

And given what they've been through - the illegal murder of their loved one by Blair's fascist regime - they have my full support in so doing.

However, in this case they do seem to have been misled by the customary -stirring of the British tabloids.

Because of course it never happens in Brazil that police open fire erroneously. Puta madre!

[Alvin Stardust]

All publicity is good publicity...

[Skudor]

Is anyone actually aware of any source that has claimed this, apart from the Menezes? I find it mildly annoying that most press outlets claim that there were reports of this 'Bond kills innoncent non-Bomber' scenario, when there isn't a sign of it anywhere.

[Mr Malcolm]

Bearing in mind that Purvis and Wade were working on the script for a very long time, I wonder if an earlier draft of the script featured Bond shooting an innocent man by mistake. It could perhaps have fitted with the whole 'grittiness/arrogant Bond' concept that's being touted for CR; then again, it might have been going too far in that respect. Following Mr. de Menezes' killing, it would have to have been rewritten, if it hadn't already.

But I'm just thinking out loud here.

[DLibrasnow]

This sounds all wrong. Damm the press. The article says the storyline will involve Bond shooting an "unarmed" bombing suspect who is the "wrong" guy and Bond has to clear his name. That's not what has been said in the script review unless since then Mr. Haggis decided to throw out the original story from CR and have turn in to a film about Bond killing an unarmed man and finds himself trying to clear his name a-la The Fugitive. I do feel for what happened to the fellow and his family but someone got it wrong. The media saw a chance to profit from a tragedy not CR. If anything the scene the way its described in the script review shows how bad the press is when they brodcast Bond shooting a villain all the place compromising Bonds mission. Vultures the lot of them and rubbish I say. Like Bond said "They'll print anything these days".

As a member of the press I resent your comments. Don't bunch all of us in the media industry in with the tabloids. Do I believe that all Germans are Nazi's because Adolf Hitler was one - of course not.

Likewise most of us in the newspaper industry practice responsible journalism, but there are a few who go for the most sensationalist elements.

[spynovelfan]

And given what they've been through - the illegal murder of their loved one by Blair's fascist regime - they have my full support in so doing.

I think you need to read up a little more on fascism before you start claiming Blair's government is fascist.

[Seannery]

And given what they've been through - the illegal murder of their loved one by Blair's fascist regime - they have my full support in so doing.

I think you need to read up a little more on fascism before you start claiming Blair's government is fascist.

Exactly. This extreme bomb throwing language helps no one.

[zencat]

All publicity is good publicity...

Tell that to Lee Tamahori.