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[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I think that this Mr. White character with the gold rim glasses that introduces Le Chiffre in the script review may be the reoccuring villain rpresenting this new villains organization. If not I think we will be led to belive that he is, either way I think he will be Le Chiffre's superior and will be a small role and since the scene takes place in the jungle(filming in the Bahamas?) I bet Mr. White will be played by Jurgen Tarrach. He is palying a small role to be filmed in the Bahamas.

[Gabe Vieira]

Hmm. I never thought about that. Good call Agent_Spriggan_Ominae!

I thought that maybe "Mr. White" would just be the character's temporary name until it's revealed later in the movie that "Mr. White" is actually someone else who has a much bigger role.

I like the idea that Mr. White is Le Chiffre's superior and the head of the new SPECTRE-esk organization.

[Andrew]

I was just thinking: perhaps this "Mr. White" is the role that Ludger Pistor was cast in.

[dr.doak]

May I point you to the Brax Interactive Adventures James Bond Page, where since about 98 or so up until a few years ago fans would write chapters to continue the stories. In the 3rd Bond adventure for the site, Brax introduced in "Death By The Book" a villain named Mr.White, a hitman trying to get Bond. He killed him off, but I brought him back in subsequent chapters until he in fact became a recurring villain for two stories. I didn't invent the character, but I did create the idea that Bond keeps thinking he has been killed but he keeps surviving via a bulletproof vest or something. I grant that it could be a coincidence, but if this character trait shows up in this guy I think we have a ripoff on our hands.

[Andrew]

...I don't think that EON would ripoff fanfiction.

There was a Mr. White in Reservior Dogs too, next thing we'll know Tarantino will be out there again saying: "See this was my idea!"

[Mister Asterix]

There was a Mr. White in Reservior Dogs too, next thing we'll know Tarantino will be out there again saying: "See this was my idea!"

Oooo... I hope they did that just to piss him off. The one thing I really liked about the script review is that it seems so anti-Tarantino.

[dr.doak]

I said I assumed it would be a coincidence, it would only be if it turns out the character is similar that I would suspect. Remember, Purvis and Wade at least are basically overgrown Bond fanboys looking for good ideas-who knows where they would turn in their attempt to churn out a good script. Even if Haggis rewrote it and others saw it, they could've kept a character they put in and they might not even realize where it came from. I'm not saying they did, but it's not implausible that they wouldn't.

[Mister Asterix]

I said I assumed it would be a coincidence, it would only be if it turns out the character is similar that I would suspect. Remember, Purvis and Wade at least are basically overgrown Bond fanboys looking for good ideas-who knows where they would turn in their attempt to churn out a good script. Even if Haggis rewrote it and others saw it, they could've kept a character they put in and they might not even realize where it came from. I'm not saying they did, but it's not implausible that they wouldn't.

[mra]Still, you wouldn

[spynovelfan]

I said I assumed it would be a coincidence, it would only be if it turns out the character is similar that I would suspect. Remember, Purvis and Wade at least are basically overgrown Bond fanboys looking for good ideas-who knows where they would turn in their attempt to churn out a good script. Even if Haggis rewrote it and others saw it, they could've kept a character they put in and they might not even realize where it came from. I'm not saying they did, but it's not implausible that they wouldn't.

It's extremely implausible. The last thing they would do is read fan fiction - for just the reasons you're talking about. Same reason why any spec Bond script is sent back unopened, so nobody can later claim they ripped the ideas off.

[dr.doak]

You believe whatever you want to believe, but I think there's a chance and none of you people can prove me wrong. As for your trusted individuals, I'd make sure they didn't say something to somebody else. Trust no one. If anything, it proves we're just as qualified to write the scripts as these guys.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Well based on Stax's report Mr. White may indeed be a returning villain for future Bond films but who he works for is not yet known.

[Skudor]

I would certainly welcome some returning villains. I makes things so much easier by having a ready made motive/reason for the plot.

[stromberg]

I was just thinking: perhaps this "Mr. White" is the role that Ludger Pistor was cast in.

Pistor's role is named "Mendel", according to the list.

There's still no "Mr. White" on it, as well as J

[weejay]

Any news about this?

[stamper]

Well, re reading the novel, ATTENTION MINOR SPOILERS***** I believe the guy who arrives in the villa during the bond beat up, will be the same guy we will meet again in the sequel aka Bond 22.
Who cares who or what he is ? As long as it's a new, SPECTRE like organisation, that will be the basis of the next 6 Bond films (because Craig will make 007), I'm happy. We really missed SPECTRE after DAF, and it's a big part why the Bond series took a low until Dalton came in and did fine, but ala without SPECTRE.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Well, re reading the novel, ATTENTION MINOR SPOILERS***** I believe the guy who arrives in the villa during the bond beat up, will be the same guy we will meet again in the sequel aka Bond 22.
Who cares who or what he is ? As long as it's a new, SPECTRE like organisation, that will be the basis of the next 6 Bond films (because Craig will make 007), I'm happy. We really missed SPECTRE after DAF, and it's a big part why the Bond series took a low until Dalton came in and did fine, but ala without SPECTRE.

Somehow I think it will be Obanno or one of his henchmen who finish Le Chiffre. It's either Obanno or Mr. White who will be returning in Bond 22.

[stamper]

I love this part in the novel, however, I would fancy more if Bond was acting rather than reacting here, ie kills Le Chiffre himself. I also think the last act will feature more action than the novel, but that is another thread.

[Fro]

Keep in mind, if LeChiffre's end is like the novel, that's only the end of the second act.

There's still Act Three with the Vesper/Bond storyline and the "Third Man" like chases and suspense. They need bad guys for that.

I'm presuming that's a chase to get the money Bond wins from Le Chiffre in the Casino.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Keep in mind, if LeChiffre's end is like the novel, that's only the end of the second act.

There's still Act Three with the Vesper/Bond storyline and the "Third Man" like chases and suspense. They need bad guys for that.

I'm presuming that's a chase to get the money Bond wins from Le Chiffre in the Casino.

Yes. Le Chiffre may be dead but from all indications Obanno should still be around and I'm willing to bet they are still very much interested in recovering the funds. And that also could be used to set up Vesper's reveal as a double.

[Orion]

lets just hope that she still is a double agent by the time the film comes out

[stamper]

They will raise the stakes to surprises us all. She will become a triple agent.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

They will raise the stakes to surprises us all. She will become a triple agent.

Maybe they'll have her working for MI6, Le Chiffre, Obanno and White.

[Pussfeller]

I hope they don't Jinxify Vesper. I want her to be bad.