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#1 zencat

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:21 PM

So in the Latino Review script review we learn the first Act of Casino Royale concludes with a major action sequence set on the tarmac of the Miami airport. Sounds VERY cool.

However, this isn't something that can be easily faked. So my question is, where will they film this? Is the production going to do some work at the actual Miami airport? Or is the airport in The Bahamas large enough to double the Miami airport?

#2 marktmurphy

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:24 PM

There was a guy on one of the forums a while ago saying his Dad (who works for an oil company) was involved in an action sequence for CR on a runway which involved an oil tanker. Sadly he was blasted for it (I think it was on ajb where manners are rare) and didn't say much more, other than his Dad wouldn't be involved as the scene was to be shot elsewhere, I think he said the Bahamas.

I think we can take it that the 'one explosion' is here- from the script review it seems a Boeing prototype is destoyed (unless I'm getting the wrong end of the stick!).

#3 DLibrasnow

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:29 PM

That would seem to fit with the brief description of the scene...I am wondering how this scene leads LeChiffre to lose $101 million.

#4 zencat

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:30 PM

Check it out. We took these pics at BCW7. Little did we know we where photographing a future Bond location. :tup:

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#5 Loomis

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:31 PM

I may be wrong, but I wouldn't have thought that there was an airport in the world that would permit this kind of sequence to be filmed on its soil (tarmac). No time or space at any time of the day or night, risk of infiltration by terrorists, interference of planes' systems/air traffic control by movie equipment, loss of money from scrapped/delayed flights, etc. etc.

#6 zencat

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:37 PM

You could be right Loomy. I expect it will all need to be faked. They might even be building a mock Miami airport in The Bahamas.

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:39 PM

It wouldn't be the first time that an action sequence has been filmed at a major international airport.

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:40 PM

You could be right Loomy. I expect it will all need to be faked. They might even be building a mock Miami airport in The Bahamas.


'spect so. Although, doing a search on the net, I gather that at least some of SPEED's famous tarmac explosive action was shot at Los Angeles International Airport. But perhaps just establishing shots.

But certainly, in this day and age, and with such a major airport, full shooting of this sequence at Miami Airport seems pretty unlikely. Although I kind of hope they do, because then it'd mean another Bond location I'd managed to visit. :tup:

#9 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 09:52 PM

I wonder if this henchman Carlos or perhaps Demitrios will meet a gruesome end a-la Gustav Graves getting ingested by an engine or perhaps more along the lines of Pat Roach in Raiders of the lost ark?

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 03:23 AM

Wonder if a variation of the scrapped scene in Die Another Day (where Bond is riding the nose wheel of a plane before jumping off) will be used?

zencat, that 1st pic is truly STUNNING!!!!!

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 05:16 AM

No way they'll be able to shoot anything at MIA. The place is always packed with people, cars, planes, criminals, you name it (although the latter could always serve as a potential pool for minor cast members). The city was inconvenienced enough with the Miami Vice shooting, which shut down part of I-95 for some time and led to incessant whining on the part of many locals, that I doubt they'll accommodate the Casino Royale crew. At least Vice gives the city explicit advertising and whatnot.

Just shoot it in the Bahamas and call it a day. Most people won't know the difference.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 10:22 AM

Sounds pretty similar to the seaplane sequence from LTK in that it is a large action sequence that actually kicks off the events of the film. And the villain loses a bit of cash!

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 12:53 PM

Just shoot it in the Bahamas and call it a day. Most people won't know the difference.


Yeah. Although it's a pity that so many of the great locations in this film will be doubling for other locations (presumably). I imagine the Bahamas will be doubling for Africa, Pakistan and Miami, as well as "playing itself" in other parts of the film. As well as the Czech Republic doubling for Montenegro or wherever.

Why can't they just write, say, "a fight in India" into the script, rather than "a fight in a country we can't possibly film in"?

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 01:00 PM

Although it's a pity that so many of the great locations in this film will be doubling for other locations (presumably). I imagine the Bahamas will be doubling for Africa, Pakistan and Miami, as well as "playing itself" in other parts of the film.


Yes, that is a little worrying, I have to admit. Do the Bahamas really have that much variation in their landscapes? Won't it all look the same? Still, I guess we won't get to see shots of RAF Upper Heyford with imported palm trees in the background.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 01:04 PM

That would seem to fit with the brief description of the scene...I am wondering how this scene leads LeChiffre to lose $101 million.

I took it from the script review that LeChiffre was shorting on Boeing stock (counting on the Boeing prototype to be destroyed and their stock dropping).

For him to then lose money would imply that the prototype doesn't get destroyed...

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 01:37 PM

Why so many people on this forum complain about location doubling, we are not in 1960 or 1970 or 80. Now production is bigger, and we have terrorist treats. Think about DAD, lets say producers really wanted to film on Cuba but Fidel didnt allowed them, so what, they should trowout all Cuba section from the script to trash?
Most of You love Goldeneye, but tank chase wasnt shot in real location.
Dont worry about location doubling, just sit and enjoy movie in November :D :tup:

#17 marktmurphy

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 03:07 PM

Why so many people on this forum complain about location doubling, we are not in 1960 or 1970 or 80. Now production is bigger, and we have terrorist treats. Think about DAD, lets say producers really wanted to film on Cuba but Fidel didnt allowed them, so what, they should trowout all Cuba section from the script to trash?


It's fine if it's done well and looks exotic. Standing Pierce in front of a big picture of Hong Kong don't really cut it.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 08:19 PM

Check it out. We took these pics at BCW7. Little did we know we where photographing a future Bond location. :tup:

Heh-heh-heh...

Yes, little did we know.

Ah, the Admiral's club...The scene of my infamous "Reflections in a double bourbon" pic.

They'll either fake it or possibly use part of MIA which is conceivable. The airport takes up almost three square miles.

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 08:20 PM

There was a guy on one of the forums a while ago saying his Dad (who works for an oil company) was involved in an action sequence for CR on a runway which involved an oil tanker. Sadly he was blasted for it (I think it was on ajb where manners are rare) and didn't say much more, other than his Dad wouldn't be involved as the scene was to be shot elsewhere, I think he said the Bahamas.


I remember reading that post, but like you I can't specifically remember where I read it. I am inclined to believe it was AJB (Where manners are no rarer than they are at CBn).

Perhaps this "guy" was telling the truth. Perhaps, Eon were testing the viability of a specific action sequence on a runway involving an oil tanker?

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:27 AM

I took it from the script review that LeChiffre was shorting on Boeing stock (counting on the Boeing prototype to be destroyed and their stock dropping).

For him to then lose money would imply that the prototype doesn't get destroyed...


Yes, I guess the major twist in this scene is that the BOEING prototype IS NOT DESTROYED, because Bond saves the day. That's how Jorg, a friend of mine, understood the sequence when I told him about it. Otherwise the Boeing company wouldn't let anybody use their name let alone the look of their airplane for such a sequence. It must have a "happy ending" so to speak as it would have a negative effect on their image seeing a Boeing airplane explode on a runway. And as the name Boeing is mentioned so prominently in the script... Well, it's a guess. In addition the review mentions "with their prototype destroyed the company WOULD HAVE BEEN near bankruptcy. INSTEAD SOMEONE LOST OVER A 101 MILLION DOLLARS BETTING THE WRONG WAY." If you read this carefully, it can only mean that Bond managed to save the plane - and Boeing. And Le Chiffre was the guys who bet the wrong way...

Edited by Clopin, 14 February 2006 - 07:35 AM.


#21 marktmurphy

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:28 PM

I dunno- if they were buying stocks in Boeing's competitors, they couldn't actually lose money if the prototype was intact, could they? The only way to lose would be if what they were investing in was eliminated, I'd imagine.
But yeah- take your point about Boeing not wanting their name associated with explosions.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 11:07 PM

Could somebody explain this whole "stock" thing and the Boeing? I don't quite understand how all of that works to make or lose money.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 11:22 PM

Could somebody explain this whole "stock" thing and the Boeing? I don't quite understand how all of that works to make or lose money.


I was wondering myself what shorting stocks was. Here's a link I found.

http://www.fool.com/...FoolFAQ0033.htm

#24 Gabe Vieira

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 05:18 PM


Could somebody explain this whole "stock" thing and the Boeing? I don't quite understand how all of that works to make or lose money.


I was wondering myself what shorting stocks was. Here's a link I found.

http://www.fool.com/...FoolFAQ0033.htm

Hmm, that link doesn't seem to be working for me. Not sure if it's not working for anybody else, but here is another link that explains "Short Selling".

Wikipedia.org - Short Selling