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#1 Stax

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:31 PM

...run Casino Royale.


ITN reports that busty blonde model Katie Price, a.k.a. Jordan, "is apparently in talks with Bond bosses to have a cameo role in the flick as one of French gangster Monsieur Le Chiffre's sexy casino croupiers. Movie makers were apparently keen to have a pin up as one of the main croupiers and it is a role Jordan says she would love to play."

So if the croupiers are indeed associated with Le Chiffre does that mean the villain now owns and operates Casino Royale (a la Donald Trump) instead of just being a visitor there as he was in the book? That might make more sense since the rumor mill says he will now be a financial conduit for a terrorist network. A casino would be a good way for them to launder and raise money.

If Le Chiffre runs Casino Royale then that makes Bond's mission to humiliate or to expose him as a front for a bad guy group more believable. That's not to say it doesn't create some problems or deviates too much from the novel but it makes the casino itself an integral part of the bad guy's operations.

Edited by Mister Asterix, 09 January 2006 - 09:38 PM.


#2 Bon-san

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:36 PM

Er, spoiler alert!

#3 Royal Dalton

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:41 PM

ITN reports that busty blonde model Katie Price, a.k.a. Jordan, "is apparently in talks with Bond bosses to have a cameo role in the flick as one of French gangster Monsieur Le Chiffre's sexy casino croupiers. Movie makers were apparently keen to have a pin up as one of the main croupiers and it is a role Jordan says she would love to play."

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Yeah, that sounds highly likely! :tup:

'Bingo Hall Royale' would be a more suitable film for her, I would have thought.

#4 Leon

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:46 PM

No it's impossible. They have said Bond is going to the casino to clean out LeChiffre, keeping it the same as in the book...

How do you clean out a whole casino by playing a game of baccarat or poker or whatever it will be?

Also just because a newspaper says "to be one of LeChiffres secy croupiers" doesn't mean they have got their facts right.

#5 Righty007

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:52 PM

Very interesting, Stax.

#6 spynovelfan

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:08 PM

He might - but not on the basis of this article.

#7 Agent 76

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:09 PM

It makes some sense, from the viewer point of view.

#8 stromberg

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:20 PM

Bringing the whole casino down would make more sense. Would make a "bigger" plot, in a dimension which the cinematic Bond requires. Can see it happen (apart from the "Jordan" bit... :tup: )

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:32 PM

...run Casino Royale.


ITN reports that busty blonde model Katie Price, a.k.a. Jordan, "is apparently in talks with Bond bosses to have a cameo role in the flick as one of French gangster Monsieur Le Chiffre's sexy casino croupiers. Movie makers were apparently keen to have a pin up as one of the main croupiers and it is a role Jordan says she would love to play."

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Maybe. Something else that clues us in is the new pair of French actors who have apparently tested for the role, Michael Youn and Romain Duris, these guys are 32 and 31 years old! It would seem then that Le Chiffre has been reinterpreted as some kind of modern gangster.

#10 Mister Asterix

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:34 PM

Assuming this article is true for a minute, might it also be possible that this croupier is being paid on the side by Le Chiffre to help him cheat.

Just a thought.


#11 Judo chop

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:41 PM

Assuming this article is true for a minute, might it also be possible that this croupier is being paid on the side by Le Chiffre to help him cheat.

Just a thought.

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A la Goldfinger?

I was rather hoping to avoid any nods to the past films in this one.

Although, I suppose in a film that whose plot is going to be so heavily centered on the card game, it may be hard to not toy with the notion of LeChiffre cheating.

#12 Royal Dalton

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:50 PM

Maybe he'll borrow Hugo Drax's cigarette case? :tup:

#13 Gobi-1

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 07:14 AM

Nice ideas everybody. I can see those things happening.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:11 AM

...run Casino Royale.


ITN reports that busty blonde model Katie Price, a.k.a. Jordan, "is apparently in talks with Bond bosses to have a cameo role in the flick as one of French gangster Monsieur Le Chiffre's sexy casino croupiers. Movie makers were apparently keen to have a pin up as one of the main croupiers and it is a role Jordan says she would love to play."

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Vulgarity could go no further...

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:07 AM

Wait a minute, Jordan is the ideal woman. Oh yes :tup:

#16 dinovelvet

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:12 AM

Maybe he'll borrow Hugo Drax's cigarette case? :tup:

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LOL, just what I was thinking. It'd be great if they wrote that in. P&W did go back to Moonraker to use elements for DAD so its possible that they noted down that idea for future use...

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:58 AM

It does make sense that Le Chiffre runs part of an espionage or criminal organisation using the casino as a front. And to bring down part of this organisation would involve ruining the casino as a whole. It makes sense that Le Chiffre uses some sort of technology to rig some of the high stake games in his favour. It also makes sense that Le Chiffre would also have on record names and locations of enemy agents in Western Europe at least. It seems to me that Bond's mission would be to try to foil the technology, steal this information, and as a means of escape, publicly ruin Le Chiffre at the card table. Le Chiffre (warned by Vesper) would try to eliminate Bond before the game. After the game Bond and Vesper would have to run from the reprisals of Le Chiffre and other enemy agents. The missing information would be suitable motivation for Le Chiffre to capture and torture Bond (not as graphically as the book) to retrieve the information. There would also be motivation for Le Chiffre's superiors to want him eliminated for drawing unwanted attention. As someone else has stated on another thread it seems unlikley that anyone could win enough money at cards to bring down a government or wealthy secret organisation. As a personal suggestion have Vesper betray Bond and steal back the information. This would, I feel, be honest to the spirit of Fleming's novel, and if Bond and the West have all the names of enemy agents there would be not much else to do for the next film.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 11:11 AM

It does make sense that Le Chiffre runs part of an espionage or criminal organisation using the casino as a front.  And to bring down part of this organisation would involve ruining the casino as a whole.  It makes sense that Le Chiffre uses some sort of technology to rig some of the high stake games in his favour.  It also makes sense that Le Chiffre would also have on record names and locations of enemy agents in Western Europe at least. It seems to me that Bond's mission would be to try to foil the technology, steal this information, and as a means of escape, publicly ruin Le Chiffre at the card table. Le Chiffre (warned by Vesper) would try to eliminate Bond before the game.  After the game Bond and Vesper would have to run from the reprisals of Le Chiffre and other enemy agents.  The missing information would be suitable motivation for Le Chiffre to capture and torture Bond (not as graphically as the book) to retrieve the information.  There would also be motivation for Le Chiffre's superiors to want him eliminated for drawing unwanted attention.  As someone else has stated on another thread it seems unlikley that anyone could win enough money at cards to bring down a government or wealthy secret organisation.  As a personal suggestion have Vesper betray Bond and steal back the information.  This would, I feel, be honest to the spirit of Fleming's novel, and if Bond and the West have all the names of enemy agents there would be not much else to do for the next film.

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I think that sounds pretty good. It would work as a film but still be recognisably Fleming's novel.

#19 marktmurphy

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 11:12 AM

Bringing the whole casino down would make more sense. Would make a "bigger" plot, in a dimension which the cinematic Bond requires.

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Yeah could be good. Perhap's there'll be an Ocean's 11-type heist!

#20 Flash1087

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 03:36 AM

Yeah could be good. Perhap's there'll be an Ocean's 11-type heist!

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You know, I think I'd be alright with that. I love caper films.