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[Atticus17F]

Dench Claims to be Cast in 'Casino Royale'
Is she or isn't she?

Dench Talks About Her Role in 'Royale'
Where will we see "M"?

Dame Judi was interviewed by Simon Mayo on BBC Radio 5Live on Friday. At the end of the interview she says she's CR will definitely be her next film appearance (then again, she also says that Will Young's career "will go from strength to strength" ...)

http://www.bbc.co.uk...live/judi_dench

[Kingdom Come]

I wouldn't listen to every word these people say - she was the one who said Brosnan was doing one more film.

[Loomis]

I wouldn't listen to every word these people say -  she was the one who said Brosnan was doing one more film.

True, but - and just to play devil's advocate, KC - you'd have thought that by now Dench would know for sure whether she was going to be filming CASINO ROYALE in the New Year.

Unless, oh, I don't know, she's a "smokescreen", and Ewan Stewart or someone is M, but, nah, until I learn otherwise I'll assume from this that she'll be doing the film.

[Stratus]

So where is the reinvention Mr. Campbell?

Campbell doesn't even seem to know what a restart is, let alone trying to "pull it off".

You can either take this as good news that EON and Campbell has been blatantly lying to us (restart/origin film) for the past year (if that is a good thing) or a bad news because Campbell has no conceptual idea of what a restart is despite harping about it. Take your pick.

Edited by Stratus, 20 November 2005 - 04:55 PM.

[Andrew]

I've really stopped caring as to whether it will be a restart or not. At this point I just really want a good film, which I think we'll get.

Sure I'd rather have someone else as M but I'll be fine with Dench if it's the least of our worries.

[WC]

I'd hope that Dench is merely getting senile in her old age and can't remember if she's in CR or not. Hopefully she's out, because we need a new M, not just for the sake of continuity or to avoid confusion, but because it's time a different actor played the role.

If people think she's perfectly fine in the role, well just think of all the arguments made for Brosnan remaining or being given the sack. If CR is to go in a new direction, get rid of Dench.

[Loomis]

I'd rather have someone else as M but I'll be fine with Dench if it's the least of our worries.

Agreed. Way too old to be a credible M (not that a Bond film needs to be "credible", of course, etc. etc.), and sharing a screen with Craig's beginner Bond. It's so wrong it's probably right, and hats off to the filmmakers if it's what they're determined to do.

[blueman]

I really care less about M these days. Dench, whomever. Give me Bond! And Vesper, who's Vesper???

[Atticus17F]

I guess it's possible she might only appear at the end of the film. Y' know, in a scene with "the Bond we all know and love".

[Moore Not Less]

Well, since just about all logic and common sense is seemingly being thrown out the window regards Casino Royale, why not have Judi Dench as M?

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind Judi Dench as M, but definitely not with the re-boot.

[dr.doak]

I'm only really happy if this means it's not a restart, because one of the main reasons I think Bond is so great is because you have all that built up continuity through the years, and I know I'll lose interest if they ruin that.

[Andrew]

I'm only really happy if this means it's not a restart, because one of the main reasons I think Bond is so great is because you have all that built up continuity through the years, and I know I'll lose interest if they ruin that.

The thing is there really isn't any built up continuity. Every film can be seen on its own and don't rely on the others. Sure there's some references to past events which I enjoy(I usually enjoy references to Tracy and would love one in Casino Royale is all this reboot talk turns out to be bunk) but no real built up continuity.

When you have five different actors with four different portrayals you have to throw all sense of strong continuity out the window.

Edited by Andrew, 20 November 2005 - 06:22 PM.

[Scottlee]

I think people are mentioning this word "reboot" far too much. The producers didn't go for a 22 year old, they went for Daniel Craig who is almost 40. I don't think it is a reboot anymore, barring the fact it's a new guy playing Bond.

I've got no problem with Dench playing 'M'. In fact I welcome it. It's not like Bernard Lee playing alongside Roger Moore got up anyone's backside. What's the big deal here?

[Loomis]

I think people are mentioning this word "reboot" far too much. The producers didn't go for a 22 year old, they went for Daniel Craig who is almost 40. I don't think it is a reboot anymore, barring the fact it's a new guy playing Bond.

You may be right. Wouldn't be surprised if they've jettisoned the origin story elements in the script.

[[dark]]

I think people are mentioning this word "reboot" far too much. The producers didn't go for a 22 year old, they went for Daniel Craig who is almost 40. I don't think it is a reboot anymore, barring the fact it's a new guy playing Bond.

You may be right. Wouldn't be surprised if they've jettisoned the origin story elements in the script.

You have to wonder; Haggis did wind up "polishing" for far longer than just three weeks.

[Loomis]

,20 November 2005 - 22:18]

I think people are mentioning this word "reboot" far too much. The producers didn't go for a 22 year old, they went for Daniel Craig who is almost 40. I don't think it is a reboot anymore, barring the fact it's a new guy playing Bond.

You may be right. Wouldn't be surprised if they've jettisoned the origin story elements in the script.

You have to wonder; Haggis did wind up "polishing" for far longer than just three weeks.

Well, I rather hope they are scrapping the reboot. Not because I don't like the idea of a BOND BEGINS reboot (although I'm not a massive fan of it), so much as because the origin story/prequel/reboot trend now seems to have been done to death, to the point where CASINO ROYALE might actually invite derision if it takes that direction. I mean, how would it look if YOUNG AUSTIN POWERS (if indeed they're making it) were to hit screens around the same time as CR?

As zencat posted earlier this year:

I do think this prequel thing is on the wane and Bond is behind the curve. I fear CR might, in 2006, look like LTK did in 89 -- riding an aesthetic 4 years too late ( (in the case of LTK, the Miami Vice drug lord thing).

Craig is nearly 40 and looks nearly 50. Dench is coming back (or so it would seem). Who, then, will complain bitterly if the Bond of CR is not portrayed as a young rookie who doesn't know M from Adam? No one, I reckon.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

So where is the reinvention Mr. Campbell? 

Campbell doesn't even seem to know what a restart is, let alone trying to "pull it off". 

You can either take this as good news that EON and Campbell has been blatantly lying to us (restart/origin film) for the past year (if that is a good thing) or a bad news because Campbell has no conceptual idea of what a restart is despite harping about it. Take your pick.

There is something that I have been dying to say in regards to what I think may be going on, ever since the announcement of Daniel Craig! But I'm going to keep my mouth shut.

[Bondian]

I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd.

Oh, knickers.



*Copyright Bondian 2005

[Stratus]

I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd. 

Oh, knickers. 



*Copyright Bondian 2005

Becareful what you wish for.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd. 

Oh, knickers. 



*Copyright Bondian 2005

Becareful what you wish for.

Is that photo really one of Jessica Alba, only with the head switched?

[Stratus]

I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd. 

Oh, knickers. 



*Copyright Bondian 2005

Becareful what you wish for.

Is that photo really one of Jessica Alba, only with the head switched?

Only if you want it to be

[Harmsway]

,20 November 2005 - 22:18]

I think people are mentioning this word "reboot" far too much. The producers didn't go for a 22 year old, they went for Daniel Craig who is almost 40. I don't think it is a reboot anymore, barring the fact it's a new guy playing Bond.

You may be right. Wouldn't be surprised if they've jettisoned the origin story elements in the script.

You have to wonder; Haggis did wind up "polishing" for far longer than just three weeks.

Well, I rather hope they are scrapping the reboot. Not because I don't like the idea of a BOND BEGINS reboot (although I'm not a massive fan of it), so much as because the origin story/prequel/reboot trend now seems to have been done to death, to the point where CASINO ROYALE might actually invite derision if it takes that direction. I mean, how would it look if YOUNG AUSTIN POWERS (if indeed they're making it) were to hit screens around the same time as CR?

As zencat posted earlier this year:

I do think this prequel thing is on the wane and Bond is behind the curve. I fear CR might, in 2006, look like LTK did in 89 -- riding an aesthetic 4 years too late ( (in the case of LTK, the Miami Vice drug lord thing).

Craig is nearly 40 and looks nearly 50. Dench is coming back (or so it would seem). Who, then, will complain bitterly if the Bond of CR is not portrayed as a young rookie who doesn't know M from Adam? No one, I reckon.

I think it's a HUGE possibility that the reboot thing has been scrapped. And you know what, I don't mind. At all. While I kind of liked the reboot idea, and was willing to get behind it if done, I think it'll be overall more beneficial just to do a "solid entry" in the Bond canon.

And there is that business of Haggis working on the script for a GREAT DEAL more than was intended (as far as I'm aware, he's still reworking it!). Hmm... well they're obviously changing some stuff, even if it's not the reboot concept.

[medrecess]

I dont understand why do they want Dench in CR.Imho they should do away with all the actors of the Brosnan era as i feel that fans constantly will be reminded of brosnan and will keep on comparing unnecessarily.And why should you have Dench when you want a new beginning for Bond.In the CR scenario they should have all new actors for MI6.No point in bringing anyone back.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I dont understand why do they want Dench in CR.Imho they should do away with all the actors of the Brosnan era as i feel that fans constantly will be reminded of brosnan and will keep on comparing unnecessarily.And why should you have Dench when you want a new beginning for Bond.In the CR scenario they  should have all new actors for MI6.No point in bringing anyone back.

Well aside from the fact that I wanted Pierce Brosnan to remain Bond, since he no-longer is Bond I agree that they should then replace all of the Mi6 staff, except for John Cleese who I would like to see back in future Bond films.

But yes, Dench and Salmon should be replaced, and Samantha Bond has already said that she's not coming back anyway.

It's just plain insanity to bring Dench back if Brosnan is gone!!!

[Blofeld's Cat]

Dame Judi was interviewed by Simon Mayo on BBC Radio 5Live on Friday. At the end of the interview she says she's CR will definitely be her next film appearance (then again, she also says that Will Young's career "will go from strength to strength" ...)

http://www.bbc.co.uk...live/judi_dench

Perhaps Daniel Craig's mother told her she is in Casino Royale.

[Nikos]

Best possible scenario with Dench in CR: She's in it but not as M. She is an MI6 (or other government branch, MI5 perhaps?)career official who at some point becomes M. She is seen in a scene at MI6 offices, she is acquainted with Bond, but isn't his boss yet. How does that sound?

[blueman]

So where is the reinvention Mr. Campbell? 

Campbell doesn't even seem to know what a restart is, let alone trying to "pull it off". 

You can either take this as good news that EON and Campbell has been blatantly lying to us (restart/origin film) for the past year (if that is a good thing) or a bad news because Campbell has no conceptual idea of what a restart is despite harping about it. Take your pick.

There is something that I have been dying to say in regards to what I think may be going on, ever since the announcement of Daniel Craig! But I'm going to keep my mouth shut.

I have a hard time with this stance, because so little has been said about how the re-whatever might be realized. It's like arguing with somebody about the color of the sky after they've called it "blue."

Look, there's a "cloud!" No it isn't, yes it is...etc.

[Bondian]

LOL. She's certainly got a cute pair of buttocks, and I'm sure Martin Campbell would "lick her into shape!".

Seriously. This movie certainly sounds confusing thus far, but it's still early days.

[quote name='Stratus' date='21 November 2005 - 04:49'][quote name='Bondian' date='20 November 2005 - 23:21']I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd.

[A Kristatos]

[quote name='Stratus' date='20 November 2005 - 22:49'][quote name='Bondian' date='20 November 2005 - 23:21']I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd.

[Mr Malcolm]

I've got news for you, Dame Jedi* Dench will be a 'force' to be reckoned with as Vesper Lynd. 

Oh, knickers. 



*Copyright Bondian 2005

Becareful what you wish for.

Oh you guys are terrible! But that is hysterical!

That's just not right. Me like.