It cracks me up that you guys will argue about anything just to see your words in print.
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Why start a thread if you didn't want discussion? Did you start this thread in the hope you could sneer at people? Isn't that 'trolling' or something?
I said technically it is a remake, not a direct remake. It is considered a remake. You are "remaking" a film Called Casino Royale, based on the novel Casino Royale. The only way it wouldn't be a remake is if the two films had totally different plots, totally different characters and the only thing in common was the title.
So the question is was the 1967 version based on the same novel? yes! Same characters and some of the same plot elements? yes! = remake.
Once again I am speaking technically.
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Look at the English. To 'remake' indicates that they are making another version of the 67 or 54 Royale. They aren't. It isn't either of those made again- it's a book adaptation. I am speaking technically as a person who understands and uses English frequently.
I wasn't really refering to TV shows because that opens a new can of worms and your examples of Spiderman or the Limey aren't the same thing, but if you really wanted to split hairs (and it seems like many of you do) you could argue about them as well, I won't.
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How convinent. You accept that The Limey isn't a remake of Get Carter, but by your criteria that Casino Royale 06 is based on Casino Royale 67 because they are sourced from the same book, somehow doesn't apply? That's rather strange as The Limey is based on 'Jack's Return Home' by Ted Lewis, as is the earlier 'Get Carter'. By your logic one
must be a remake of the other. How is that 'not the same thing'? It's
exactly the same thing.
The two versions of Get Carter would be a good example of the same source material, same basic plot, and characters = remake even though they aren't a lot alike.
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No; the two films have
different source material. One is based on a novel (as I just mentioned: 'Jack's Return Home') the other is based on the first movie adaptation. You can tell because they have the same title and have the same dialogue; both of which were original to the movie adaptation. The second Get Carter was a remake of the first movie; not the novel. Casino Royale will be an adaptation of the novel- not any previous screen version.
So endith the lesson.
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It's
'endeth'. A degree, you say?