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[Alessandra]

Give Hugh Jackman the part and cut it out! it's only a matter of MONEY if people say no at first.. that is the truth!

I don't think it's as simple as that. In the long-term, Bond would be very likely to harm Jackman's career. Without it, he can make even more money. So even if you offered him a ton, would you be able to match what he'd get without Bond? I also suspect he already has more than enough money, and that doing something that he loves and will be critically acclaimed for would be more important. Do you think offering tons of cash would be enough to get Stephen King to write a Bond novel? He already has tons of cash. Same with Jackman. Why on earth would he do it? He's already a film star.

even Pierce who was VERY much into the Bond thing , including off screen, did tons of other movies while in charge of Bond.. so Jackman would be free to do the same, I don't think that's an issue. He'd make the money from his own movies and the money from Bond. Of course since doing Bond implies giving up another movie a year, the payment has to be adequate. Pierce walked out because they didn't offer him enough money, that's the truth. What instead makes me think that good actors refuse the part is that the script is REALLY lame. Dam, Hugh would be perfect as Bond. I can JUST picture every scene! lol (so ok I've got a little crush on the guy but HEY... I'm allowed to have a favourite! lol )

[spynovelfan]

It's not about what he would do during his time as Bond, but afterwards. Brosnan's films during Bond were either riffs on Bond - THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR, THE TAILOR OF PANAMA - or low-budget stuff close to his heart he could never have got made otherwise.

Jackman is a massive film star. He doesn't need Bond. Similarly, people who fancy Jude Law, Hugh Grant, Russell Crowe, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise might argue they'd make a good Bond. No massive film star will be Bond.

[Alessandra]

It's not about what he would do during his time as Bond, but afterwards. Brosnan's films during Bond were either riffs on Bond - THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR, THE TAILOR OF PANAMA - or low-budget stuff close to his heart he could never have got made otherwise.

Jackman is a massive film star. He doesn't need Bond. Similarly, people who fancy Jude Law, Hugh Grant, Russell Crowe, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise might argue they'd make a good Bond. No massive film star will be Bond.

I don't see either Thomas Crown Affair or Tailor of Panama as riffs of Bond, but aside from that I reckon it's the different "concept" we have of Jackman which makes the difference. I don't consider him a MASSIVE film star, but as someone who's done the quality jump in the past year thanks to Van Helsing (x men type stuff isn't exactly what makes an actor get good critics) and whose international profile would GREATLY be improved by going into Bond.. if you ask people around my office here (all around 30 of age.. and lots of women), 8 out of 10 don't know who Hugh Jackman is. Serious. (may sound amazing to americans and aussies.. but it's true. he's not that well known in italy, france, spain).
But they all know Hugh Grant, Jude Law, Russel Crowe, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. btw.. of those I think only Hugh Grant and Tom Cruise would make a good Bond. Brad Pitt is too much... too good looking and too sexy, Russel Crowe won't have class even if he trained for the rest of his life..(and looks ridiculous everytime he wears a tuxedo) and Jude Law looks like (and I quote Dermot Mulroney in "the wedding date" here) "a harmless, self-absorbed toolbox".
Still.. you've got that very expert sense of Bond which most likely makes YOU right and ME wrong LOL.

[thespecialist]

NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

Brosnan was downright fat in Die Another Day. And Moore wasn't exactly buff in any of his movies. Neither was Dalton. And Connery didn't have a 'six pack'.

I'm really far less concerned about looks. Bond does not need to be a metrosexual. Craig is passably handsome - put him in a well cut suit and give him a sexy leading lady and he's fine.

[tdalton]

Brosnan was downright fat in Die Another Day.  And Moore wasn't exactly buff in any of his movies.  Neither was Dalton.  And Connery didn't have a 'six pack'.

I'm really far less concerned about looks.  Bond does not need to be a metrosexual.  Craig is passably handsome - put him in a well cut suit and give him a sexy leading lady and he's fine.

Well said.

[Shrublands]

P.s. most women that I have discussed him with over the last few days find him incredibly sexy.

Not this lady. I find him a tad better than Woody Allen. Not my definition of "incredibly sexy." My definition of "incredibly sexy" is Gerry Butler.

ahahahhaha a tad better than Woody Allen is just great. NOT THIS LADY EITHER!! PUH LEEZE!! this guy sexy!??!?! sexy is Hugh Jackman, sexy is George Clooney, sexy is Patrick Dempsey... sexy to death is Marat Safin!! (so ok, a tennis player, but I needed a good example!! lol ) NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

You must give me the name of your oculist.

[Alessandra]

NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

Brosnan was downright fat in Die Another Day. And Moore wasn't exactly buff in any of his movies. Neither was Dalton. And Connery didn't have a 'six pack'.

I'm really far less concerned about looks. Bond does not need to be a metrosexual. Craig is passably handsome - put him in a well cut suit and give him a sexy leading lady and he's fine.

I was talking about being SEXY.... Brosnan fat is FAR sexier than this guy. and he still doesn't look as his body is falling apart!! none of the previous guys did! This guy looks OLD! and even in a smart suit and with a sexy leading lady (like in the picture) he will NEVER be sexy. Connery was VERY sexy when he acted Bond, so was Moore and YES even Dalton. not to mention Pierce. Sexy is DEFINITELY a Bond characteristic.. AND FIT. Connery didn't have a six pack because that wasn't a habit at the time.. like Grace Kelly didn't have long legs and a completely flat stomach which people look for in actresses nowadays. The standards are different, you have to make a proportion. Cary Grant was considered VERY sexy at the time, but he certainly didn't have a six pack. He was slim and in good form, and that was enough. Same applies to Connery. And Moore. Dalton's physical appearance was FAR better than this guy's, and among this guy and Brosnan there's NO comparison.
As I said... sexy is Hugh Jackman, George Clooney, Patrick Dempsey.. OR MARAT SAFIN!! this guy looks just "average". someone I would never turn my head for on the street. Bond MAKES women turn their heads. ALL THE TIME...

[Alessandra]

P.s. most women that I have discussed him with over the last few days find him incredibly sexy.

Not this lady. I find him a tad better than Woody Allen. Not my definition of "incredibly sexy." My definition of "incredibly sexy" is Gerry Butler.

ahahahhaha a tad better than Woody Allen is just great. NOT THIS LADY EITHER!! PUH LEEZE!! this guy sexy!??!?! sexy is Hugh Jackman, sexy is George Clooney, sexy is Patrick Dempsey... sexy to death is Marat Safin!! (so ok, a tennis player, but I needed a good example!! lol ) NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

You must give me the name of your oculist.

ahaha. I have 11/10 of view (yes.. never wore glasses because I see ABOVE average! thanks mum! ) . you can't seriously say this guy would EVEN get A LITTLE close to compete with Hugh Jackman, George Clooney, Patrick Dempsey or even worse, Marat Safin, when being sexy is concerned. I'd gladly make a widespread poll FROM WOMEN OF COURSE on this... and stay assured that at least 80 percent would side with me.

[spynovelfan]

NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

Really?



Oh well. I guess you've got that very expert sense of Bond which most likely makes YOU right and ME wrong.

[Alessandra]

NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

Really?

yea really..probably am too used to see good looking people in my job. anyway a)he's in a pose when even MY arms look like that (and I'm a girl! lol) look at the shoulders...going waaaaaayyy down. brrr... C) he looks OLD. Having some muscle doesn't mean either looking fit, or sexy, or young. He has some muscles like old people I see training at the gym... still look old and about to fall apart!! but HEY.. this is a girl's opinion (shared by, I must say, my other two colleagues who are sitting next to me).
now here:
http://www.someonelikeyoumovie.com/

and what passes on with Jackman shirtless is what I call FIT and SEXY.
otherwise, tune in on the next tennis tournament when Safin is fit again (he's out for knee injury right now), and we'll talk about what sexy and fit means!

[spynovelfan]

Alessandra, that was lame. Come on, admit it - he looks good in that photo! Christ on a bike, woman.

[Alessandra]

Alessandra, that was lame. Come on, admit it - he looks good in that photo! Christ on a bike, woman.

what was lame?!?! hugh jackman in someone like you?!? you have GOT to be kidding. the movie is VERY cute (and the line on "I bit myself shaving" is just GREAT). and Hugh looks as sexy as ever in it!!
sorry, looking good to me is ANOTHER thing. This guy does NOT look good and least of all sexy to me. but hey, there are women who find Woody Allen sexy, so well... I guess it's just a matter of standards and opinions!
And I will add... I am pretty positive YOU are far sexier than him. Even if I've never seen you. You make witty remarks, and that alone makes you sexier than him!

Edited by Alessandra, 06 September 2005 - 04:08 PM.

[Bon-san]

I'm not a woman, but....

To me, that picture shows a guy who's a marginal player in some military operation in Africa. Things have gone sour in the Congo, and Corporal Jennings is going to have to take out the Opposition candidate under cover of night.....


Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel Craig [although he's at least 5 or 6 slots down the Bond list].

Mostly, though, I'm wanting to politely ask for you to stop posting that pic, spy.

[Alessandra]

I'm not a woman, but....

To me, that picture shows a guy who's a marginal player in some military operation in Africa.  Things have gone sour in the Congo, and Corporal Jennings is going to have to take out the Opposition candidate under cover of night.....


Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel Craig [although he's at least 5 or 6 slots down the Bond list].

Mostly, though, I'm wanting to politely ask for you to stop posting that pic, spy. 

ahahahha. a great one!

[a_crook]

All i can say is that I hope they come up with someone soon... as long as it's not Craig. It would take a great deal of convencing for me to think of Craig as Bond... and I like him. He just isn't the Bond type, he's too wiry, skinny, and honestly a bit ugly and harsh looking. I think he has the swagger, but when you're talking about James Bond I think looks have to factor in a bit more.

I'm really about sick of the whole thing, I wish they would just pick someone. I do think that if you can't get Owen go with a relative unkown.

[Bond Bombshell]

Sorry, I've said this before on another Craig thread, but as this is still being debated I'll say it again. I do not believe Craig is even close to 6'. There are reports on the net of the problems he encountered acting opposite Gwyneth Paltrow in Sylvia. At 5'10" she insists that she is taller than him, which led to her having to remove her shoes on set.

At the BAFTAs it was noticeable that he was considerably shorter than fellow guest presenters Pierce Brosnan and Clive Owen.

I have kept a look out for Craig's height ever since an article in the Sunday Telegraph magazine, in which the interviewer estimated his height to be no more than 5'9". Watch Layer Cake again from this perspective and you can see that he is not tall. Great screen presence though.

[Loeffelholz]

If Craig was, in fact, 'offered' Bond by MGM earlier this year, why is he just now taking a screen test? And why a screen test at all? Didn't he already do one? Otherwise, how could Babs like him and Mike not like him?

Something here doesn't make sense.

[David Schofield]

NOT THIS OLD GUY whose body looks as if it's already falling apart! (i am afraid to see the skin tremble while he puts together the gun... he would need A LOT of gym to BARELY look ok without a shirt!!)

Really?

yea really..probably am too used to see good looking people in my job. anyway a)he's in a pose when even MY arms look like that (and I'm a girl! lol) look at the shoulders...going waaaaaayyy down. brrr... C) he looks OLD. Having some muscle doesn't mean either looking fit, or sexy, or young. He has some muscles like old people I see training at the gym... still look old and about to fall apart!! but HEY.. this is a girl's opinion (shared by, I must say, my other two colleagues who are sitting next to me).
now here:
http://www.someonelikeyoumovie.com/

and what passes on with Jackman shirtless is what I call FIT and SEXY.
otherwise, tune in on the next tennis tournament when Safin is fit again (he's out for knee injury right now), and we'll talk about what sexy and fit means!

Hang on a minute, Spy and the rest of you who think Jackman is too BIG a star for Bond - I'v just noticed on the poster for this movie Someone Like You he's playing THIRD banana to Greg Kinnear and the leading lady!

Greg Kinnear, for Christsakes!

Hollywood can be very fickle and this surely proves that whatever other work he has up hisb sleeves, Jackman should perhaps not think Bond is beneath him quite yet.

[spynovelfan]

SOMEONE LIKE YOU is from 2001, though. Orlando Bloom was about 15th banana in BLACK HAWK DOWN the same year, but he is still a huge film star. Hugh Jackman has made seven films since 2001, and has another seven due out by 2007. He's the lynchpin of a massive movie franchise, the X-MEN, and will star in his own solo movie as that character. He's also signed a multi-picture deal with Disney to develop, produce and star in film musicals.

I think it extremely unlikely anyone with the kind of career Jackman has (or Bloom, for that matter) will play James Bond. It's a role for an actor who's either unknown (Lazenby), near-unknown (Connery, Dalton) or on the B-list (Moore, Brosnan). Jackman may not be Tom Cruise, but he's firmly in the A-list. Just can't see that ever happening. I think they're now struggling to get B-listers. In his recent interviews, *Daniel Craig* expressed his fears of taking the part as it might limit his chances of other work. I believe Chris Feeney turned the role down because he felt he'd be typecast*.



*Not true, obviously, before it appears in The Malaysia Times.

[pieffra]

How many problems the actors have playing james bond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems to me that most of all would want, but none asked him!!!!
In Italy we use to say: "When you can't reach an apple on the three, it's better to say that it's not good to eat".
Playing 007 you could be type cast with the carachter, but I don't think it's a torture or something similar, as all this people seem to say or seem to be feared of.
Anyway, I'm free, if they want............

[Shrublands]

I remember Sophie Marceau and Toby Stephens both saying that they went through several rounds (five if I remember correctly in the case of Stephens) of filmed screen test over many months before Eon and the studio were convinced that they were the right actor for the job. Even when Eon had decided that they wanted them, they were still filming test with them to convince MGM, (by that stage they were the only ones being filmed in tests for the particular roles).

If they went to all that trouble for Electra and Graves, then we should not be too surprised that there is another round of tests coming up and that an actor that was first connected with the casting long ago is still being tested.

Just a thought.

[Alessandra]

I remember Sophie Marceau and Toby Stephens both saying that they went through several rounds (five if I remember correctly in the case of Stephens) of filmed screen test over many months before Eon and the studio were convinced that they were the right actor for the job. Even when Eon had decided that they wanted them, they were still filming test with them to convince MGM, (by that stage they were the only ones being filmed in tests for the particular roles).

If they went to all that trouble for Electra and Graves, then we should not be too surprised that there is another round of tests coming up and that an actor that was first connected with the casting long ago is still being tested.

Just a thought.

Quite right. and worrying since it means those people are SERIOUSLY out of their minds!! lol

[Shrublands]

I remember Sophie Marceau and Toby Stephens both saying that they went through several rounds (five if I remember correctly in the case of Stephens) of filmed screen test over many months before Eon and the studio were convinced that they were the right actor for the job. Even when Eon had decided that they wanted them, they were still filming test with them to convince MGM, (by that stage they were the only ones being filmed in tests for the particular roles).

If they went to all that trouble for Electra and Graves, then we should not be too surprised that there is another round of tests coming up and that an actor that was first connected with the casting long ago is still being tested.

Just a thought.

Quite right. and worrying since it means those people are SERIOUSLY out of their minds!! lol

That has made me fall back in my chair laughing my head off.

Just wanted you to know.

[Daltonfan]

A jumoble of thoughts from me relating to this thread.

I thought Daniel Craig looked pretty good in the shower scene in Layer Cake and height isn't really that important. I like him a lot better for Bond than Clive Owen.

Hugh Jackman was cast in Someone Like You before the original X-Men was released, so he wasn't a star at that time.

I think power might be as big an issue as money for the bigger stars. Jackman has production deals with Disney and Fox so he might expect to be treated as a partner rather than just an actor for hire. The odd film is one thing, but a multi-picture deal for a big franchise is something else.

[Alessandra]

I remember Sophie Marceau and Toby Stephens both saying that they went through several rounds (five if I remember correctly in the case of Stephens) of filmed screen test over many months before Eon and the studio were convinced that they were the right actor for the job. Even when Eon had decided that they wanted them, they were still filming test with them to convince MGM, (by that stage they were the only ones being filmed in tests for the particular roles).

If they went to all that trouble for Electra and Graves, then we should not be too surprised that there is another round of tests coming up and that an actor that was first connected with the casting long ago is still being tested.

Just a thought.

Quite right. and worrying since it means those people are SERIOUSLY out of their minds!! lol

That has made me fall back in my chair laughing my head off.

Just wanted you to know.

AHAHAHHA!!! well I am HONORED to provide some good humour! lol there's nothing better than a good, warmhearted laugh! .. well ok, maybe Barbara Broccoli falling desperately for Hugh Jackman after she (REPORTEDLY) said he wasn't "masculine enough" to portray Bond. !!!!!!! I swear, I want to see her husband.

Edited by Alessandra, 07 September 2005 - 02:05 PM.

[Alessandra]

A jumoble of thoughts from me relating to this thread.

I thought Daniel Craig looked pretty good in the shower scene in Layer Cake and height isn't really that important. I like him a lot better for Bond than Clive Owen.

Hugh Jackman was cast in Someone Like You before the original X-Men was released, so he wasn't a star at that time.

I think power might be as big an issue as money for the bigger stars. Jackman has production deals with Disney and Fox so he might expect to be treated as a partner rather than just an actor for hire. The odd film is one thing, but a multi-picture deal for a big franchise is something else.

true Daltonfan. so they better treat him as a partner! lol

[narrows101]

I'm wondering about the "not masculine enough" line that Barbara Broccoli supposedly said about Hugh Jackman since it was reported that when Hugh played Curly in "Oklahoma!" in the West End in London in 1999 she saw the play and was reportedly "drooling" over him.

I thought this was kinda funny:

http://movies.go.com/buzz

Casino Royale
Royale Pain. This report details why nobody's been cast as James Bond. Hugh Jackman? "Not masculine enough." Read: too many Broadway musicals. Ewan McGregor? "Too short." Read: The Island tanked. Colin Farrell? "Too much of a bad boy." Read: All his movies tanked. Eric Bana? Not "good-looking enough." Read: wore a skirt in Troy. Meanwhile, Dan "Harry Potter" Radcliffe might play young 007 in a prequel. Because he's got that smooth player vibe going.

[Alessandra]

I'm wondering about the "not masculine enough" line that Barbara Broccoli supposedly said about Hugh Jackman since it was reported that when Hugh played Curly in "Oklahoma!" in the West End in London in 1999 she saw the play and was reportedly "drooling" over him.

I thought this was kinda funny:

http://movies.go.com/buzz

Casino Royale 
Royale Pain. This report details why nobody's been cast as James Bond. Hugh Jackman? "Not masculine enough." Read: too many Broadway musicals. Ewan McGregor? "Too short." Read: The Island tanked. Colin Farrell? "Too much of a bad boy." Read: All his movies tanked. Eric Bana? Not "good-looking enough." Read: wore a skirt in Troy. Meanwhile, Dan "Harry Potter" Radcliffe might play young 007 in a prequel. Because he's got that smooth player vibe going.

LOL narrows101.. that's the exact thing they had in the "hollywood reporter" piece as well.. the one we were referring to above, when saying they made themselves look stupid and arrogant.
As I already said.. I SWEAR, I WANT TO SEE Broccoli's husband since she dared say such a thing of HUGH! and i'd PAY to see her drooling over him! (and she will as soon as he takes off his shirt for a scene, trust me! lol)

[Captain Indigo]

i'll get the role of the young james bond then when i'm older i'll play the real deal james bond

[Alessandra]

i'll get the role of the young james bond then when i'm older i'll play the real deal james bond

LOL. come audition for us... we'll put you top of the list from the start given you arrive from here of course..!!
naturally if you are bond, I am TO THE VERY LEAST the main Bond girl... LOL!!