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[Monsieur B]

I know that this will, most definitely, be a short discussion but I just wanted to voice my thoughts on this topic (and since that's what these forums are for ). I know that a huge majority of you will disagree with my opinion and boo me out of this thread but I hope that a small number of you who, hopefully share my thoughts, will step forward and support me. And now to the point:

When I sit down in the theatre and watch Casino Royale's opening gunbarrel sequence, I want to see the shot of Bond to be smaller (reminiscent to DN, FRWL, GF, OHMSS, LALD, TMWTGG) where Bond is further away and the actor is a little more unrecognizable. I think that it would be great to not get to see Bond's face until it's revealed in the PTS, not in the gunbarrel where in the later Bond films, Bond was larger and you knew who the actor was right off the bat. Even though, we'll see a huge picture of him on the poster outside the cinema and maybe tv ads, it'll still leave some surprise in store for weird fellows like me.

I also want Bond to lose the tuxedo in Casino Royale, at least in Bond 22, and reintroduce the suit and fedora. Like my mentioning making Bond less recognizable in the gunbarrel in the above paragraph, the fedora helps hides his face while he's walking along. I also think that it would bring back a sprig of class into his cinematic character, even though he probably has class coming out the ying-yang. Who cares if no one wears fedoras anymore, the hat looks awesome. Bond doesn't even wear the fedora in the actual film the only time you usually would see it in the 60s Bond films was when Bond through it onto the coat hook (which I also miss) and, in Connery's case, when he was carrying a briefcase. I may be only 17 but I love the retro looks , fedoras may even become the hot new fashion accessory because of Bond

And the music that the gunbarrel has been using recently doesn't sound right to me (especially the GE gunbarrel, sorry to all you GE fans), perhaps if Arnold went for a more classic Bond sound, classic Bond theme. Maybe even just remaster the old Bond theme and use it or make one that is reminiscent to 60s Bond sound like the FRWL or TB gunbarrels (IMO which were excellent gunbarrels, musically). Or just bring Barry back and let him blow us all away like he has done so many times before. OHMSS, anyone? What just me?

Anyways, those are my suggestions. Like I said, I doubt that many of you will agree with me. Actually, I think that it goes without saying that the CGI bullet has got to go. Am I right, folks?

Edited by Monsieur B, 27 August 2005 - 05:00 AM.

[Pussfeller]

I agree that Bond should be placed at a greater distance, and should be less recognizable. I've always hated Brosnan's gun-barrels. They were all so shiny, huge, and CGI-laden. DAD was truly awful, with its "JAWS 3D"-style CGI bullet. Ecch.

I wouldn't mind seeing Bond in a suit, as opposed to a tuxedo, but I think it would be silly to have him in a fedora. Nobody wears those anymore. It would seem weird and unrealistic to have Bond wearing one.

[Monsieur B]

Well I figured that people would disagree about my opinion on the fedora but like I said, I'm a sucker for the classic styles. I love the fedora, actually own a few myself.

[MM007]

I predict that there will not be an opening gun barrel sequence in CR. If they go for the young Bond approach, the character will develop throughout the film. I bet CR will end with, "The name is Bond, James Bond.

[XXX]

Good idea, furthering Bond. But the CGI Gunbarrel DEFINATELY has to stay. They could (if they really, really wanted to) tone down the reflection, but please don't give me that "I want the old card back". That would look so ridiculous.

I sometimes get the impression, people misunderstand the concept of "back to basics". It doesn't mean to make everything like in the 60s, it means that the SPIRIT is the same, with new tools.
Otherwise, there wouldn't be a point in making these movies in the first place.

[tdalton]

The CGI gun barell opening sequence was one of the more consistently good things about the Pierce Brosnan Era. If they were to go back to a more old school style, then I think that it wouldn't look that good after having seen how they have upgraded it over the past four years. The opening gunbarrel sequence is the ONLY time in Casino Royale that CGI should be used.

[marktmurphy]

Bond has never worn a fedora (except possibly in Moonraker- I'm not sure what that was off the top of my head)- I don't know what you're talking about.
Presumably you mean a trilby.

[Renard]

[quote name='MM007' date='27 August 2005 - 10:05']I predict that there will not be an opening gun barrel sequence in CR.

[cvheady007]

I have no problem with keeping the gunbarrel logo as is, but they can drop the bullet that makes its way all the way to the screen. It is unnecessary.

[trumanlodge89]

I have no problem with keeping the gunbarrel logo as is, but they can drop the bullet that makes its way all the way to the screen.  It is unnecessary.

i think i read somewhere that the bullet was done just for DAD.


my only thought for the gunbarrel is that i hope they get the music right, and i believe bond should be holding his gun with two hands.

[callmejames]

[quote name='MM007' date='27 August 2005 - 08:05']I predict that there will not be an opening gun barrel sequence in CR.  If they go for the young Bond approach, the character will develop throughout the film.  I bet CR will end with, "The name is Bond, James Bond.

[Pussfeller]

Of course they can modify the gun barrel, as long as they don't remove it altogether. I just think the current CGI version looks kind of fake and flashy. I don't want to go back to the flat cardboard version either. I just want them to improve the current one.

[marktmurphy]

No other film has similar elements like  the gunbarrel sequence, so the bonds should keep it for sure.

Except for the current Zorro movies. Directed by... who was that again?

[Monsieur B]

Bond has never worn a fedora (except possibly in Moonraker- I'm not sure what that was off the top of my head)- I don't know what you're talking about.
Presumably you mean a trilby.

More than likely, my mistake, Clouseau wears fedoras.

EDIT: BTW, I'm not if there is a bit of confusion with what I stated I wanted to see in the next gunbarrel. I didn't say to scrap the CGI gunbarrel, the gunbarrel looks awesome, I just didn't like the bullet. And I'm not saying to change everything in the movie and make it all retro, I just mentioned some thing that were used in the 60s gunbarrels that I thought worked well, like the suit/trilby and the style of music. I just thought that they should try and reintroduce some of these things because they worked. Reverting back to the 60s Bond won't happen (that isn't even what I was proposing), I just like certain elements about those gunbarrel to be brought back, that's all.

Any confusion on my part with your posts, I apologize.

Edited by Monsieur B, 27 August 2005 - 03:19 PM.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

[quote name='trumanlodge89' date='27 August 2005 - 13:56'][quote name='cvheady007' date='27 August 2005 - 13:19']I have no problem with keeping the gunbarrel logo as is, but they can drop the bullet that makes its way all the way to the screen.

[Monsieur B]

The draw is faster one-handed but Lazenby's two-handed, one knee pose was pretty awesome.

I agree, the one-knee was awesome but wasn't it a one-handed shot, his left hand just swung behind his back sort of. I don't know I may be wrong, I'll have to watch it again to find out. I think the pose would be cool if the left hand wasn't glued to their side with with Pierce but actually out to the side like Connery's post-Goldfinger pose, or Roger on the cover of For Your Eyes Only (with St. Cyril's in the background and Melina is seen in between Rog's legs, standing in the distance), or even Tim on the cover of The Living Daylights (with the explosive background). That particular pose is excellent and I don't know aout the rest of you but that pose should be used in the Casino Royale gunbarrel.

[Johnboy007]

Although it startled the bejesus out of me in theatres (didn't know they added it), the bullet has gotta go.