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Julian McMahon Sucks in Fantastic Four


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#31 Forever007

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 08:36 PM

Julian McMahon is not James Bond and never will be. He's a mediocre actor at the very best, plus he's an Aussie which should count him out completely. Bond should be played by a British actor and with all the candidates out there to choose from he shouldn't even be on the radar. If EON chooses McMahon I firmly believe he wouldn't last more than one film and they would have wasted, arguably, the best of Ian Fleming's stories. I'm not sure why I am worried about McMahon getting the role as I cannot imagine him doing well on the screen tests at all. EON MUST choose someone else, McMahon is boring.

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#32 Roebuck

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 09:27 PM

Julian McMahon is not James Bond and never will be.  He's a mediocre actor at the very best

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Of the previous Bonds only one of them could seriously be regarded as a fine actor, and sadly that didn't help him much at the box-office. The candidate doesn't need to be a good actor (though I think fans underestimate McMahon in this respect), just a good 007. For me that means the right blend of the rough and the smooth, which I sense McMahon could pull off with little difficulty.

#33 Phenix

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 10:27 PM

If anyone is interested, more reviews of Fantastic Four and Jules can be found here. MsCranky's LiveJournal

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 10:28 PM

i thought julian suffered from a bad script in fantastic 4. i dont think he would be a bad choice for bond.

#35 Skudor

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 10:39 PM

Of course James Bond needs to be played by a great actor - we only have to look at the enormous acting talent that resides in Roger Moore's eyebrow to see this. Who could possibly live up to this? [sarcasm]

Bond isn't exactly Hamlet, which is why he's so enjoyable. Whoever plays him needs to have certain attributes. Acting doesn't have to score particularly highly - it's not like we particularly need him to perform long monologue or display complicated emotions (bar one incident - not to be repeated). Bonds emotions are generally restricted to, well, not much emotion. Occasionally a bit of dark mood, or a grimace. That's it. No need for Woody Allen.

---Have yet to catch Fantastic 4, which I really want to see for one simply gorgeous reason: Jessica Alba.

#36 Phenix

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 11:05 PM

thought julian suffered from a bad script in fantastic 4. i dont think he would be a bad choice for bond.


Daredevil was paned just as severely as FF and Colin Ferrell gave a bravado performance as Bullseye. Seems to mean a great actor regardless of the material given to him will find a way to turn [censored]e into gold.

Bond isn't exactly Hamlet, which is why he's so enjoyable. Whoever plays him needs to have certain attributes. Acting doesn't have to score particularly highly...


Then why not do a South Park version of Bond? TPTB could use little stick figures and have voiceovers. Which reminds me. McMahon was asked by the director of FF to use a European accent for Doom. McMahon couldn

#37 Rogue Agent

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:37 AM

Found one particualar website and it's posted reviews of Fantastic Four, and Julian McMahon's performance, and they're quite harsh. Brutal, you could say.


[quote]Also along for the ride is evil financier Dr. Victor Von Doom (Julian McMahon) - apparently, his doctorate is in overacting. [/quote]

[quote]McMahon certainly has the over-the-top wa*ker shtick down pat. It

#38 Rogue Agent

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:39 AM

Sorry, just realized someone posted the link earlier in the thread.

#39 Spoon

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:52 AM

Ah, a livejournal that CALLS ITSELF JULIAN_HATE obviously seems like a VERY unbiased source to evaluate McMahon. C'mon, Moomoo... you have been doing better than that so far in this incarnation.

I happen to know that Phenix and her pal MsCranky pretty much make it their life's work to post bad things about McMahon wherever anyone may be discussing him. I saw them on another board (totally unrelated to Bond) where they were engaging in this; their history was mentioned there.

Again, I think McMahon is a problematic candidate and far from the best option out there, but I really don't think we should give this poster and her commuity any credence. They have absolutely no interest in the Bond films, to be honest; all they want to do is run down McMahon.

BTW -- and again, not that I think Fantastic Four can tell us much about Bond, but at least movie critics know more than fans with axes to grind, anyway -- Chris Evans gets by far the most praise in the F4 reviews, and Michael Chiklis behind him. Both Gruffudd and McMahon (along with Jessica Alba) are getting panned pretty equally.

#40 trumanlodge89

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 01:24 AM

mcmahon is using his own voice in the movie? it really sounded like he was using a faux american accent with a british one poking through at times.


and im am in love with jessica alba thanks to fantastic 4.

#41 MrDraco

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 01:33 AM

they should have casted the lead singer from Bush lol...

#42 Righty007

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 01:40 AM

I thought McMahon did a good job at being a villain.

#43 Phenix

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 09:21 AM

Ah, a livejournal that CALLS ITSELF JULIAN_HATE obviously seems like a VERY unbiased source to evaluate McMahon.  C'mon, Moomoo... you have been doing better than that so far in this incarnation.

I happen to know that Phenix and her pal MsCranky pretty much make it their life's work to post bad things about McMahon wherever anyone may be discussing him.  I saw them on another board (totally unrelated to Bond) where they were engaging in this; their history was mentioned there.

Again, I think McMahon is a problematic candidate and far from the best option out there, but I really don't think we should give this poster and her commuity any credence.  They have absolutely no interest in the Bond films, to be honest; all they want to do is run down McMahon.

BTW -- and again, not that I think Fantastic Four can tell us much about Bond, but at least movie critics know more than fans with axes to grind, anyway -- Chris Evans gets by far the most praise in the F4 reviews, and Michael Chiklis behind him.  Both Gruffudd and McMahon (along with Jessica Alba) are getting panned pretty equally.

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Of course its biased. It

#44 hcmv007

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 08:46 PM

[Well, I think it's good to be open minded about most of the candidates, with the exception of McMahon and maybe some others. McMahon is a name that should raise a huge red flag for people. The fact that they even gave him a screen test has me worried. Gruffudd might work. Pretty much all the other candidates might work. But not McMahon. It's troubling that he's even a candidate at all.

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I had liked Mcmahon as Bond until I saw him in FF. I agree with what you say about Gruffudd. Mcmahon, would make an excellent Bond villain, but as far as the next Bond Adam West said it best when he turned down Bond for OHMSS: Only an Englishman should play Bond. Now why did I like Mcmahon at one point? His life did seem to imitate Bonds and his character on Niptuck was a womanizer, but sadly he just can't handle the action. Gruffudd might be able to, he wasn't bad in King Arthur in his action scenes, and no I haven't seen the whole movie, just bits and pieces. He was good in FF, fatihful to the Reed Richards character.

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#45 tdalton

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 10:38 PM

[quote name='Forever007' date='9 July 2005 - 16:36']Julian McMahon is not James Bond and never will be.

Edited by tdalton, 10 July 2005 - 10:40 PM.


#46 Brian Flagg

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 10:51 PM

Haven't seen FF yet, was supposed to go today but just plain didn't feel like it. However, I am not a fan of McMahon. My wife watches that show Charmed, and the guy just was overexposed to death on that program. He wore out his welcome when three or so seasons went by and virtually every plot involved him. He became the Scrappy-Doo of the show, which wasn't too great to begin with.

For those who want to read a fine Doom story, look no further than Fantastic Four #s 258-260 from 1983 or so.

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 02:22 AM

I saw FF opening day. The film was ok but, could've been better. McMahon was a big disappointment. Remember when Doom was an evil businessman like the current incarnation of Lex Luthor? WRONG! It Never Happened! Turning Doom into a Luthor/Norman Osborn-type villain was a big mistake. And could he have sported some kind of accent so he sounds like the foreigner Doom is supposed to be? I'm surprised Latveria was even mentioned. As for Ioan, I thought he played an ok Reed Richards and, if he was cast as Bond I would be more accepting of him than Julian but, he's really going to have to step it up a notch to play Bond.

#48 luciusgore

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 03:52 PM

[quote name='tdalton' date='10 July 2005 - 22:38'][quote name='Forever007' date='9 July 2005 - 16:36']Julian McMahon is not James Bond and never will be.