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[Gri007]

I like the idea that EON are doing CR at last and it will stick true to the book. but its the fact that Brozza won't be Bond and that it will be 007's very first assignment in the service but set in modern times which i dont like.

This is my plot synopsys of my casino royale version. it has elements from the 007 novels Licence REnewed, Live and Let Die and of course Casino Royale it self.

Casino Royale
(18)

Synopsis



CAST:
Pierce Brosnan

[H.M.Servant]

ehhh....ummm...well....wat can I say...
I know the number of a good psychiatrist

[Gri007]

ehhh....ummm...well....wat can I say...
I know the number of a good psychiatrist

I take it the psychiatrist is for Bond. Or are you applying that i need one. Don't worry if you are im not bothered. so what do you think. 2 Bond films into 1

[Qwerty]

[quote name='Gri007' date='12 June 2005 - 12:36']He returns to London and goes back to his house.  He walks into his bedroom and sees Tracy.  Off course it

[H.M.Servant]

ehhh....ummm...well....wat can I say...
I know the number of a good psychiatrist

I take it the psychiatrist is for Bond. Or are you applying that i need one. Don't worry if you are im not bothered. so what do you think. 2 Bond films into 1

Well...I was implying that you both need one..
I think parts of your script would be more suited for a film about Jack the Ripper....

But seriously, I like the general idea of 2 storylines in one film and it coming together.

I also like the idea that there are several villains (though I think you have one to many, I would make one of them a hench man to Le Chiffre)
Also I would change the order that Bond fights them, and I would give Le Chiffre a bigger part, since the movie is Casino Royale and he should be the main villain.

I would also cut the violence, the sm-content, the personal storylines of the film.

Anyway that's my two cents. Good luck.

[Gri007]

Well I'm glad you like some parts of the plot. But CR to me should be a dark film, and therefore it would contain a lot violence. It'll be the first Bond film to be rated 18.

[Gri007]

[quote name='Qwerty' date='12 June 2005 - 20:27'][quote name='Gri007' date='12 June 2005 - 12:36']He returns to London and goes back to his house.

[Qwerty]

I don't want to see ghosts of past Bond women in the films today.

[Stephenson]

That is one seriously misogynistic piece of writing.

And "Dark" does not necessarily mean violent; it has more to do with the suggestion of violence, danger, tension, an exploration of the darker side of human nature. Take a look at "Chinatown", one of the darkest movies out there: it really only has one violent moment,and by today's "standards" it's tame. You have more than I care to count, most of which sound completely over the top.

Still, you took the time to write it down, so that's gotta be worth something ....

[Bon-san]

This would be a radical departure that Eon would never take. They'd be almost certain to lose a great percentage of total box office due to the ultra graphic violence. Your story seems more appropriate for a non-Bond film, IMO.

But good luck with your screenwriting career. And your therapy.

[Jim]

Ceeda Leiter ends up having her face, her breasts, her thighs hacked apart and having her uterus removed after being raped as well. The sickest thing Bond has ever come across in his life and probably the sickest and disturbing image in cinema history.  [Hopefully] 

He finds Vesper Lynd on the edge of being raped, one of the thugs reaches for the knife. 

Bond then starts twisting the smashed bottle that is firmly in place in Franco’s stomach.  His guts are ripped up, and blood starts pouring out the neck of the bottle.  James Bond the pushes the bottle in further. 

You've got to be kidding.

The "[Hopefully]" is rather disturbing.

[Gri007]

[quote name='Jim' date='13 June 2005 - 19:25'][quote name='Gri007' date='12 June 2005 - 16:36']Ceeda Leiter ends up having her face, her breasts, her thighs hacked apart and having her uterus removed after being raped as well. The sickest thing Bond has ever come across in his life and probably the sickest and disturbing image in cinema history.

Edited by Gri007, 13 June 2005 - 07:50 PM.

[Jim]

[quote name='Gri007' date='13 June 2005 - 19:44'][quote name='Jim' date='13 June 2005 - 19:25'][quote name='Gri007' date='12 June 2005 - 16:36']Ceeda Leiter ends up having her face, her breasts, her thighs hacked apart and having her uterus removed after being raped as well. The sickest thing Bond has ever come across in his life and probably the sickest and disturbing image in cinema history.

[Gri007]

That is one seriously misogynistic piece of writing.

And "Dark" does not necessarily mean violent; it has more to do with the suggestion of violence, danger, tension, an exploration of the darker side of human nature. Take a look at "Chinatown", one of the darkest movies out there: it really only has one violent moment,and by today's "standards" it's tame. You have more than I care to count, most of which sound completely over the top.

Still, you took the time to write it down, so that's gotta be worth something ....

Well I'm exploring the darker side of Bond. He has becomed short fused and angry due to the fact of Ceeders Death, and its a very tense time for him due to the fact that his colleags are being murdered. And certain people ar very dangerouse.

[Bon-san]

Well i would like my CR to go down in Cinema history due to its darkness, and i would appreciate the fact that some film critic did rate the remains of Cedar, being the sickest thing in cinema image.  I mean as the world most disturbing and sickest film image ever been created.  I would like to be known has the person who has created that scene.

Might I suggest that you indulge yourself in the films of Herschel Gordon Lewis?

[Qwerty]

Might as well apply for an NC-17 and 18 certificate right now.

[Gri007]

to take us away from the dark and depressing side of CR. I have now bought in the balloon chase script.

BALOON CHASE (Revised)

BOND BOARDS BALOON ONE, SHOOTS THE PILOT. HE PUTS HIS GUN IN HIS TROUSERS AND SLIDES DOWN A CABLE THAT IS CONNECTED TO BALLON TWO. BAD GUYS ARE SHOOTING. BOND CLIMBS OVER THE BASKET AND HAS A HAND TO HAND COMBAT WITH THE PILOT. THE BAD GUY

[Gri007]

What does misogynistic mean. cant say I've ever come across it.

[Qwerty]

mi

[trumanlodge89]

i like some of the ideas, especially the thought of combining the two stories, but most of the stuff will never be put to film. an NC-17 is a movie killer. bond is meant as something a father (or older brother, in my case) can take a 12 year old to. why does a girl getting raped and brutally tortured need to be shown on screen? it is something nobody wants to see.


and the balloons have been done to some extent.

[Jim]

What does misogynistic mean.  cant say I've ever come across it.

Hmm. Quite.

Would you be allowed in to watch your own film, I wonder?

[Gri007]

[quote name='Jim' date='14 June 2005 - 20:36'][quote name='Gri007' date='14 June 2005 - 19:33']What does misogynistic mean.

[Gri007]

[quote name='Qwerty' date='14 June 2005 - 20:03']mi

[Qwerty]

I personaly cant see the problem with having a 18 or NC17 Bond film.

Speaking as an official film: For one, the box-office on it would soar down. Many theatres dislike the NC-17 rating, and don't even show films with that rating.

[00-FAN008]

Ceeda Leiter ends up having her face, her breasts, her thighs hacked apart and having her uterus removed after being raped as well.

I'm sorry, but that is just gross. Better for some kind of detective-mystery/horror film or something, but not Bond. Really, I know you like the idea and all but I think that that is just way too disgusting. I mean, don't listen to me if you don't want to, and that's fine, but *ech!*...

And also... it's UMA THURMAN!!!

[Gri007]

Right ok, it looks like your veiws are pretty mucg the same. How many out of 10 would you give CR version.

[trumanlodge89]

well i like some of the plot, but the violence is just gratuitous. i would give it one star if i were roger ebert. however, since it is not a movie and just an outline, then theres lots of room for improvement.


bond movies are above all CLASSY. (well, DAD was bordering on it) its not a contest to see what is the most that can be shown. its about telling a story, and a woman getting her uterus ripped out and her breasts and face clawed at onscreen NEVER belongs in a bond film. (or any film IMO)

a bond movie MUST be bigger and better than all action adventure films. or else why make them. and bond isnt horror.


ceeda getting raped and murdered would have given you the level of darkness desired no doubt.


and again, if a bond film is to make any money, NC-17, or even R i believe, is out of the question.

[Gri007]

Well Thank you Trumanlodge for your opinoin. But as I've said Bond is a well established character. playing about with him is'nt going to do much harm. If it is a flop at the box office then bring the next bond film back to the formula we all love.

What about Licence To Kill.

That was the first Bond film to be rated 15 and we see Felix get attcked by Sharks, and Milton Krest get blown up in a preassurises chamber. It seemed a bit dark for a Bond film. weather that was a succes at the box office I don't know. But when Goldeneye came to the big screen six years later the box office went sky high.

Licence to Kill had the tanker chase which was a good and original. My Casino Royale as its baloon chase, which is well original and i suppose interesting.