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#61 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 04:06 PM

Thunderball was my all time favourite James Bond film from the first time I saw it on tv in 1976/77 until 2006.

Now I rank it with Quantum Of Solace and Casino Royale in my Top 3.

Good thing Sean spends all that time in the water. Otherwise he'd have been wearing his make-up and who knows how far the film would drop...

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Come, come. He only wears a lot of make-up in From Russia With Love. He's his normal self by Goldfinger and by Thunderball he's a panther and is at his most masculine and Machismoiste™.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 12:44 AM

Thunderball was my all time favourite James Bond film from the first time I saw it on tv in 1976/77 until 2006.

Now I rank it with Quantum Of Solace and Casino Royale in my Top 3.

Good thing Sean spends all that time in the water. Otherwise he'd have been wearing his make-up and who knows how far the film would drop...

:(


Come, come. He only wears a lot of make-up in From Russia With Love. He's his normal self by Goldfinger and by Thunderball he's a panther and is at his most masculine and Machismoiste™.


I agree. However if you think he had a lot of makeup in FRWL, check out Marnie where he sports a lot more make up than any Bond film.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 12:54 AM

Thunderball was my all time favourite James Bond film from the first time I saw it on tv in 1976/77 until 2006.

Now I rank it with Quantum Of Solace and Casino Royale in my Top 3.

Good thing Sean spends all that time in the water. Otherwise he'd have been wearing his make-up and who knows how far the film would drop...

:(

Come, come. He only wears a lot of make-up in From Russia With Love. He's his normal self by Goldfinger and by Thunderball he's a panther and is at his most masculine and Machismoiste™.

I agree. However if you think he had a lot of makeup in FRWL, check out Marnie where he sports a lot more make up than any Bond film.

Let's not forget all the turkey-wattle flab about his neck during that movie and Goldfinger... :)

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 03:10 PM

In 2008 I watched all the Bond movies and wrote a series of reviews for another site. The aim was to watch them in order in the run up to the premiere of QOS. I succeeded and the reviews were well received.
However, subsequently, I have re-read my reviews and re-watched a number of the movies (the BFI had a whole 007 season earlier this year and I saw quite a few on the big screen again!).
This is my updated review for Thunderball.


THUNDERBALL
REVISED REVIEW 26/12/2009


Thunderball was a massive success in 1965/66. It was an event film, a world wide smash everywhere it opened. For a time it even out grossed The Sound of Music. It has left a lasting legacy on the Bond franchise and while not the best film in the series it certainly has the biggest influence. James Bond could never be the same again once the Korean had been spewed from the ejector seat in Goldfinger, but by Thunderball he could never be small-time again. Thunderball was conceived as a big film from the off: a big budget, big stars, big sets, big fights and big battles. It is a rollercoaster ride of thrills and excitement.

Yet, despite Thunderball being the most successful and, possibly, the most quintessential entry into the series, it doesn’t quite work. Most of the blame for this must lie fairly and squarely with Richard Maibaum and John Hopkin’s script, which while retaining much of the novel, doesn’t add anything new to the Bond character or to his world, and Terence Young whose direction is listless and disjointed. The driving force in the previous films had always been the interaction between the characters, but here everyone is drawn in crayon not water colour.

The potentially colourful Emilio Largo, as played by Adolfo Celi, comes across as nothing more than a gangster and a bully, albeit a rich one. The beautiful Claudine Auger is Domino, the heroine of the piece, but after a bright start in two classic scenes with Sean Connery, the writers lose faith in her relevance to the plot, she has little to say or do until the denouement of the film. The henchman Vargas is a low-grade Grant, and Count Lippe is a disappointing early foil, their encounters with Bond are mostly played for laughs. There are insignificant supporting roles for Rik Van Nutter, Martine Beswick, Molly Peters and Earl Cameron.

On the plus side the marvellous Luciana Paluzzi wonderfully fleshes out the sexual predator and deadly assassin Fiona Volpe. She is almost the best actor in the film and her scenes with Connery have an extra bite and attitude missing from much of the movie. I say “almost the best actor” because undeniably this is Sean Connery’s finest hour as James Bond. Yes, he coasts a little, but that adds to the charm and the subtlety of his performance. He has learnt so much since Dr No, even down to the way he walks, like a cat, on the balls of his feet: in the pre-title fight Connery prowls the floor, stalking his prey before the ultimate kill. If there is too much humour, it isn’t his fault and he handles the now customary one-liners with the appropriate grace or disdain they deserve. His reward is to be billed above the title. It isn’t just Ian Fleming’s James Bond anymore, it’s Sean Connery’s.

Despite the abundance poor characterisations Thunderball isn’t all bad. The fight scenes are well done, the chases are brilliant, the special effects are of Oscar winning standard, John Barry’s music is one of his best scores, Maurice Binder supplies his definitive title design and Lamar Boren’s underwater photography is of high quality. So why does it all feel so unsatisfactory?

Possibly for one reason only: it has a long winded and dull climax. Thunderball happens at breakneck speed and the audience is along for the ride for first hour and a half. Then, at precisely the moment the film needs to build on its excitement, we are subjected to two lengthy underwater sequences, the latter an interminable battle which never seems to end. Peter Hunt’s editing can’t save it and neither can Barry’s music. If the final fist fight on board the Disco Volante is well executed, the back projection error is simply unforgivable, making the scene laughable when it should be tense.

Yet, despite these problems, Thunderball is still an outstanding example of Bond-age, displaying everything the Bond fan has come to know and love about the films. I have a hard time criticising it, because, being the first Bond film I watched, it has special memories for me and in many ways I want it to be so much better than it is.

Perhaps, ultimately, one shouldn’t argue with the balance books. Eon took a risk allowing Kevin McClory to produce Thunderball under their banner. It was a risk well worth taking as Thunderball ensured the 007 phenomenon escalated into absolute international mania. James Bond was never going to be so big again.

RATING - 7 from 10


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Posted 30 January 2010 - 07:16 PM

Re-watched it and liked it much better than I had it in my memory. It still is sometimes a bit too much underwater action IMO. But the film is entertaining and Connery is always great.

So - 7,5 out of 10.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 07:40 PM

I find Thunderball a very entertaining film, but it is a very flawed one. For an epic movie based around the idea of a Secret Agent searching for nuclear weapons, the pace is a bit too slow and relaxed, which hurts it somewhat. It does compensate for that with some great set pieces and characters, mainly Fiona Vulpe who is every inch the sexy bad Bond girl and would set the template for characters like Xenia Onatopp and Miranda Frost later down the years, but here we have a truly memorable villainess who always holds the attention, whilst some of the bursts of action, in particular the PTS featuring Bond battling a transvetite of sorts (it all boils down to a villain disguising himself as his wife) is brilliant and great fun, ending as it does with Bond, a rocket powered back pack and the Aston Martin. It's just I think the fundamental problem is the film is way too bloated, trying to do epic without letting the film flow naturally (later epics like YOLT and TSWLM would manage to do it more fluidly), but as such the film is well worth a watch, but not the classic that it really should have been. My two cents anyway.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:40 AM

I find Thunderball a very entertaining film, but it is a very flawed one. For an epic movie based around the idea of a Secret Agent searching for nuclear weapons, the pace is a bit too slow and relaxed, which hurts it somewhat.

I think the setting makes it seem more relaxed than it is and that many scenes take place underwater and there's a lot of investigating.

One of the things I like about Thunderball is the sense of panic and alarm that the threat is real. YOLT also does a good job with this. The scene in the war room at Whitehall is a good example of the stakes, there are various mentions of the deadline, Bond and Leiter's frustrating helicopter searchs for the Vulcan are among the many scenes that illustrate this.

But when you get to later films in the series such as TSWLM, where there's also a race against the clock, there's little if any such suspense that the threat is real.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 11:47 PM

1. My least favorite Bond film, though I did like the title song performed by Tom Jones.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:12 AM

1. My least favorite Bond film

What don't you like about it?

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:33 PM

1. My least favorite Bond film

What don't you like about it?

Too many underwater sequences. I just found it really boring and I believe I fell asleep during the film.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:33 AM

4/10 Only recommended to diehard fans (like most of the people on this board) and to teenage boys with overactive hormones.

Pros:
Not all that many, but I'll try to think of some.
Young brings Bond close to the hard-boiled brutality he had in Dr. No. In fact, this is the closest Bond will get to that hard-boiled world until Daniel Craig takes over as Bond.
While he is surrounded by a mess of a movie, Connery is a delight, and gives a very effective performance, nicely balancing strength with impishness (putting the flowers on the corpse) and hints of sensitivity (when he puts on the sunglasses to avoid showing any tears or emotion to Domino). For me, Connery is the main reason to watch this movie.
Claudine Auger is no great actress, but she is well-written, and has something of a character arc. Auger is astoundingly beautiful as well.

Cons:
The whole movie (right down to its theme song) could be summed up as, "Bond is awesome, and so are his movies". There's little critical reflection in how this movie is put together. The filmmakers knew it would be a hit, so they didn't worry about things like pacing.
Continuing with that point, there's entirely too much filler in this movie. We get scenes with Largo's men swimming here and there. When Quist (a very minor henchman) reports back to Largo, we actually have to watch him pull up to the front gate so that the guards can let him in! Simply cutting that scene out would not have made things any less clear. There are scenes that apparently are meant to be tense (Fiona driving Bond) that in the end are also filler (and do little to advance the plot).
Having Bond advance the notion that he only beds women for "king and country" (which is a real bungle, since Elizabeth II was and is the monarch!) is just laughable, particularly in a movie where he blackmails a hapless technician into sleeping with him (Pat Fearing).
The underwater scenes are without a doubt the most boring moments in any Bond film.
The 60s Bond films were overly fond of dubbing, but they go to new and ridiculous lengths here. Largo's dubbing makes him sound comically Snidley Whiplash like. He and his henchman say even the most prosaic lines as if they are moments of profound drama ("switch on the underwater liiiiiiiights", "WINch in the sub MARINE!", etc.).

I liked this movie when I was 14, and I could take it seriously (and be turned on by all the girls Bond has his way with). Now the whole affair strikes me as being fairly ludicrous, far more so than later movies that are regularly panned for being campy.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:54 AM

The underwater scenes are without a doubt the most boring moments in any Bond film.


Yes, but at the time they were really groundbreaking. There weren't many movies with underwater camera work never mind underwater battles, in the mid-60's.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:30 PM

The fourth Bond film and this is another really good entry. The story is a good one and is more like the first two films in its realism than Goldfinger, which would be the last time for a while.

It is slightly overlong and a lot of that is due to the amount of underwater scenes. Understandably, they wanted to show this off a bit and the scenes look fantastic for the time but they do become a bit of a gimmick eventually. Other than that though, there's not much wrong with this for what it is. I actually forgot how little screentime Fiona Volpe has, so for her to still be a memorable character for fans is a credit ot the filmmakers.

8/10.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:15 AM

Connery's best Bond in my opinion, big, epic and exciting. Love Claudine Auger as Domino, still remains my favorite Bond girl. the underwater sequences are beautifully shot.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:46 AM

10/10

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

Thunderball was the first Bond movie I ever owned. It was given as a Christmas gift along with Dr. No on VHS when I was in high school. I didn't watch it for years and then watched it once several years ago, and then just last week. I had thought of it as a sort of bloated, over-the-top movie that wasn't that great: more like just passable. Well, after digesting the entire series and seeing some rather silly moments in a few of Moore's films, I realize Thunderball isn't what I first thought it was. I now appreciate it as another very well done entry in the series before Connery wore out his welcome. Connery as Bond is very charming in his boyish way, and yet deadly, impatient and determined: my favorite mix in a Bond movie!

I also enjoy Celi as Largo. He has a sort of flair and mysterious, enchanting, dubious foreign quality about him that makes him cool...to me, anyway. We're also treated to some first-class verbal sparring when Largo invites Bond to his home for lunch. Absolutely love the scene where Bond remarks how difficult skeet shooting must be and then casually blasts a clay pigeon from the air with no effort "No....it isn't...."

I do not find the movie to be overlong or the pace to slow at all during the under-water scenes. Great stuff all around.

8/10

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

10/10, right up there with OHMSS & TSWLM.

I first saw TB in a retrospective double-feature with YOLT, on the big screen, which is what both films need and deserve.

No complaints from me, and although YOLT may have slipped a bit in my personal rankings, TB never has.

Big plot. Beautiful women. Nasty villains. Ice cool hero.The Bahamas. Chases through the Junkanoo parade. Gadgets. Underwater action. Sneaking around to John Barry's score. More underwater action. A 2-hr+ running time. I was in 007th heaven, and always am to this day when I rewatch it - especially now on a widescreen monitor, where I can see that the Disco Volante had a near-but-not-quite-identical standin.

Actually, there are plenty of editing errors, but I don't let them diminish my enjoyment. I am perfectly happy to obey Cubby's edict: "Park your brains under your seat and don't ask too many questions." Bond films are entertainment, not historical documentaries (like Galaxy Quest).