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Can someone answer this question about NSNA?


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#1 neversaynever

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 01:04 AM

Ever since choosing neversaynever as my nick for these forums (it was just a name that occurred to me), I have been wondering about that film (NSNA). Maybe someone can answer this for me. After the whole McClory/Warhead 2000AD/Sony Pictures courtcase fiasco, MGM ended up with the rights to NSNA, didn't they? I think I remember reading at the time that there was some talk about MGM actually then accepting NSNA as part of the canon: admittedly this would be a bit odd, as it doesn't contain a lot of the Bond "essentials" (gunbarrel scene, etc). But does anyone know whether this is still the plan? Or whether it ever was (maybe I'm just misremembering)?

I don't know what they could do to actually include it in the series: it'd be a bit strange to include it in a DVD set given that it's so noticably different. Maybe it could be included on the jamesbond.com mission summaries. So they could officially acknowledge it, even if they don't include it...

I've always had a soft spot for NSNA. When I was young - we're talking about 15 years ago here -, it was repeatedly shown on TV here in Australia. Several times a year, it seemed. Me being so young, and the movie being oh-so-long, I always had to go to bed before it finished - and I still remember how excited I was to eventually got to see the end!

#2 Mister Asterix

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 04:04 AM

I would say MGM would consider Never Say Never Again as part of 'The Bond Collection' but not canon. Eon definitely wouldn't say it was canon.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that MGM bought the distribution rights for Never Say Never Again from Warner Bros. and it had nothing to do with the Sony/McClory court case. I know MGM had the rights to NSNA before the case went to court.

#3 Sanchez

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 04:20 AM

I would say MGM would consider Never Say Never Again as part of 'The Bond Collection' but not canon. Eon definitely wouldn't say it was canon.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that MGM bought the distribution rights for Never Say Never Again from Warner Bros. and it had nothing to do with the Sony/McClory court case. I know MGM had the rights to before the case went to court.

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Waner Bros did indeed have the rights to "NSNA" before MGM.

Turn, I thought you might like to know that "Casino Royale" is available on DVD from (amongst other places) HMV at http://www.hmv.co.uk this in turns means that is will be in the PAL/Region 2 format, which if one does have a multi region player won't be a problem.

#4 neversaynever

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 04:34 AM

Thanks for your answers Turn, Mr * and Sanchez.

I had a look at the reviews of NSNA at amazon.com after I posted this. They were all fairly scathing... perhaps not unreasonably.

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 03:21 AM

I'm not sure if I have the complete answer, Neversaynever, but maybe this can help. MGM and Eon got the rights to NSNA and Casino Royale, basically to make sure they were within their own holdings and they could do with them what they wanted. Basically saying if someone is going to make money with the Bond name on these products, it may as well be us.

I don't think those titles will ever be considered canon. I think that's why NSNA didn't get any attention as far as special features on the DVD. And I remember hearing Casino Royale would be released on DVD last year, but there is still no word on it. NSNA still makes the round on television a lot, but I have a feeling these titles will be the red-headed stepchildren for awhile.

#6 neversaynever

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 05:53 AM

Yeah, I do understand and am familiar with the result of the case - i'm not sure that your summary is totally correct, though: my question was more relating to what MGM was actually going to do now that it has the rights to NSNA. From the posts above, it seems that it acquired them sort of "just in case", perhaps for any remaining intellectual property issues that may arise.

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 05:09 AM

I think I can help you out here a bit,never say never can be remade as much as they want to but can't make new films without Eon productions as they own the character of 007.

Sony tried to make their own Bond films that's why there was a case.

I was rather dissapointed with the nsna dvd as it did not contain any special features and it still had that very annoying Bond score and also deleted scenes were not added on.I was told that there was some talk of doing a special edition of Casino Royale but that also still has not yet released.