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#1 Jim

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Posted 06 April 2002 - 06:39 AM

Anyone who's ever read any of my other posts will know I prefer being negative and I pinch my ideas for new topics from other folks, so in the same vein as the Star Wars/Pierce Brosnan canon love-in going on elsewhere, herewith real, solid pain.

1. Aladdin. Largely infantile and utterly mystifying. Migraine inducing mind-control.

2. Star Wars. Grotesquely expanded beyond its meagre charms. Reheated ideas polished up and served to children. If they did that in a restaurant, it'd be shut down. And then the "series" decends (if poss.) into muppets. A green wrinkled sock with a bloke's fist up its :) dispensing wisdom. George Lucas is a genius, because he could see all those punters coming.

3. Bram Stoker's Dracula. No it isn't. Hasn't little or nothing to do with Bram Stoker. Largely facile, when not cretinous.

4. Sliver. I walked out. The next day I had my car accident. I blame this film (this is not entirely rational and admittedly, says litle about the film. However, as I walked out, it would be hubris to criticise a film I haven't seen all the way through. Who knows? The end may be beyond genius, although given the rest, that'd be a hell of a twist).

5. The Tailor of Panama. A new entry to the list. Wholesale massacre of a mediocre text, which itself is a thinly disguised rip-off of Our Man in Havana (which is exquisitely written). Its existence is pretty inexplicable, and Mr Brosnan is staggeringly miscast as an overweight Englishman in his late twenties. Story goes nowhere, seems to have been filmed through a cup of mud and Pierce Brosnan (and to give her her due, Jamie Lee Curtis) is staggeringly wooden to the point when Greenpeace are threatening to tie themselves to this paragraph to stop me writing any more about it. There are probably worse acted films (somewhere) and worse filmed and worse photographed and worse written, but I've rarely seen a film which seemed so pointless.

6. Carry On Columbus. No, don't. Desecration of something that did not deserve desecrating. A successful series, and then generally pooed over. Wholesale and unsuccessful change of direction. Hold on a mo, that bain't Carry on Columbus, it's Licence to Kill....what can I write to differentiate them...erm...one has Jim Dale in it. That'd do, and that's enough to put it on any such list. Poor, and worse than poor, not worth paying any attention to.

7. The Godfather part III. See Carry on Columbus, above. Although this doesn't have Jim Dale in it. Which, frankly, is its major weakness. Apart from Al Pacino mistaking shouting loudly for acting. Yet again.

8. Pokemon 2000. Look, I have three children under 10. Sometimes, I have to watch this stuff. I cannot go through its deft, delicate narrative structure piecemeal, because it lacks one and that's probably me covering up for not understanding it fully. Or at all. The children enjoyed it, although they appear to have enjoyed the merchandise more. I doubt they could tell me anything about the film any more, although they were screaming at me for weeks to go see it.

9. Saving Private Ryan. Watch it without watching the first twenty five minutes or so. Then consider whether this is not the most overrated piece of pat, flag-waving, unoriginal nonsense to have been foisted upon us in recent years. There were, patently, no British soldiers dying in Northern France in 1944. A historical aberration, and little more than a training film with a very large budget. Cynical manipulation of the audience, historical naivety and jingoistic filth. Utter crud, but presented in the flag, so it's either an emotional and eviscerating work of art. Or crud wrapped in a flag.

10. Peter's Friends. An emetic. This, I have little doubt, is the worst film I've ever seen. It is quite shockingly inept, both in script and direction and all available copies should be locked in a room with a revolver and given the option to do the decent thing, to put it out of our misery. Quite frankly, vile.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 04:53 PM

Any Mob movie that doesn't have the word Godfather in the title (and one that does). The Godfather was a great film now leave it alone and do something different Hollywood.

Highlander II: The Sickening: For a year and a half I would see the the director cut video on the Blockbuster shelf, and I would say to Mrs.*, 'I wonder if the Director Cut makes that not the worst movie of all time.' Finally sick of my wondering Mrs.* rented the Director Cut and though it removed many of the stupidest parts of the film it didn't raise its ranking any. I stopped watching after twenty minutes.

Batman And Robin: This film did raise the ranking of Highlander II. There was one great moment in this film, when Arnold put on the little round goggles his Mr. Freeze looked really hip. That moment lasted one half of a second; the rest of the movie stunk on ice.

Any film with Jim Carrey or Adam Sandler were their character has a silly voice.

I have to agree with Jim on Bram Stroker's Dracula. It could have been a nice comedy though if they would have had both Bill and Ted.

Ferngully: The Last Rainforest: A blatent attempt to brainwash our children in to believing that Man is evil and is destroying all of nature. This movie made me take up littering as a hobby.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 04:57 PM

First, I feel the need to defend Mr. Brosnan in ToP:

Jim...no offense, but I think you missed the point of the movie. John LeCarre rewrote the screenplay of Tailor of Panama in such a way that Andy Osnard was no longer young, but an older agent looking for the big payoff. PB took as his cue to playing the role, a quote from LeCarre about his (JLC's) spying days, "They stole my youth." Pierce played his role as a man who feels he is entitled to being a misanthrope since the world has stolen his youth and his life.

Wooden performances? Not even close! Pierce was very much alive in this role, although Osnard isn't that lively. AO is a brooding, misanthropic, mysgyngistic, creep. That's how Pierce played him and I think he did an excellent job.

That being said, not every film PB makes is good. As a matter of fact, unfortunately, Pierce Brosnan is the co-star of what I honestly believe is the very worst film ever made. It costars Judd Nelson, and was released in the US as "Entangled." I believe it has another name overseas, but whatever name it goes by, go by it in the video store!

I guess, Jim, you will take ToP and I will take Entangled, and we will make bird feeder out of it.

My other hateful films:

Overly religious moralistic films: Case in point, Boys Town. Yes, I cried watching it, but by the end I was ready to throw up. Could they have spread the goody two shoes nonsense any thicker?
And while I am at it, I can only pray that CBS will cancel "Touched By An Angel" soon. One more "I am an Angel sent by God," and I will puke.

Teen Flicks: Maybe I had a rough life, maybe I had a freak's life, but no teens I know ever acted that way.

Any movie with Denise Richards: Christmas may only come once a year, but she bombs in every movie!

Titanic: The ship sank. Get over it.

Gladiator: A good movie, but this won all those Oscars -- why?

Book Adaptations: Never as good as the novel, and frequently misses the point of the book.

I am usually very picky about what I watch, so what I watch I like. And if I don't like something, I turn it off. So there.

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#4 Mourning Becomes Electra

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 05:32 PM

Mister Asterisk, are you saying that Bram Stoker's Dracula was not a comedy??? You could have fooled me, I laughed my :) off watching that film. So over the top goofy grand guignol that it can't possibly be taken as anything but a vampire spoof. I mean Gary Oldman's hair.... LOL... come on that's no serious. It's no coincidence that Mr Burns uses the same "do" in one of the the Simpsons Halloween special. ;-)

Speaking of Gary Oldman, The Scarlet Letter, enough said... possibly the worst of them all, but it's too easy a target. (but is that whirring sound Hawthorne spinning in his grave?)

As for other films listed like Titanic, I must be the only person left on the planet not to have seen it and I have no intention of doing so. Just snippets of that dialogue... "Jack, Jack Jack.... Rose Rose Rose...."... it just screams for a mix up in the sound as in Singing In The Rain.

Ditto The Gladiator. I saw 15 minutes of it in the movies and walked out, it's a sandles and sword film from the 60's with a bigger budget. Oscar worthy? It's no Spartucus.

Mission Impossible... I have a very low Tom Cruise tolerance, something he used up some time around that laughably bad Cocktail.... I skipped them both.

Indiana Jones & The Temple Of Doom. UGH!!!!!!! The only way Kate Capshaw could have been cast is that she was sleeping with the director, and everything else in the film is just as horrid. The first film was great, the 3rd very good, the 2nd is just odious. I re-watched in on TV recently thinking it couldn't have been as bad as I recalled, it was worse.

Return Of The Jedi..... those ewoks.... why???? Return Of The Phantom Menace... turgid and interminable with Jar Jar Binks to boot... 15 years and Lucas still couldn't be bothered with a script?

The Saint, agree, it's bad, Val Kilmer I generally like but why those silly costumes and accents? Still, it's a masterpiece compared to the mind blowingly awful The Avengers. I shall forgo any jokes about where Fiennes shoved his umbrella, but could the man have been more wooden and humorless? When Sean Connery in a Teddy bear costume is the highlight of a film, run run run!!

Bruckheimer films and their ilk: Armageddon (so stupid and loud I wanted the meteor to smash into them already!), Con Air (loud, stupid & ugly looking), Fast & The Furious (nice cars, bad actors, dumber than dirt script)

Cutesy Meg Ryan comedies. Sleepless In Seattle makes me want to heave, as do all her other's except When Harry Met Sally. Ditto for most of Julia Robert's work.

Teen and gross out comedies.... blech...

Oh and Jim, I vehemently disagree with you about ToP, but this thread is for films we hate, and I'm sure someone vehemently disagrees about some of my above choices. ;-)

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Posted 16 May 2002 - 12:42 AM

Well, if I do happen to fall prey to a bad film, here are some of them:

Batman and Robin: George Clooney as Batman. Sheesh.

Gone in 60 Seconds: Now, I like this film, but it could have been way better. Really, Robert Duvall, Angelina Jolie, and Nicolas Cage, all Oscar winners. Could have been a lot better.

Fast and the Furious: Overrated. A bunch of people racing around in funny cars. Big whoop.

Titanic: It took four hours to show a sinking ship? Good Lord, how did this film tie Ben Hur in the Oscar run?

Any teen slasher flick: Overdone since, well, since they started.

Harry Potter: 'Nuff said.

I'm sure the list will be extended soon.

#6 Mister Asterix

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 05:37 PM

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 Apr, 2002 06:32 p.m.):(edited)
Mister Asterisk, are you saying that Bram Stoker's Dracula was not a comedy???


I didn't say it wasn't a comedy, I said it would have been a nice comedy if...

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 05:43 PM

Mister Asterix (07 Apr, 2002 06:37 p.m.):

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 Apr, 2002 06:32 p.m.):(edited)
Mister Asterisk, are you saying that Bram Stoker's Dracula was not a comedy???


I didn't say it wasn't a comedy, I said it would have been a nice comedy if...


Point taken. ;-) Seriously, Dracula had to be just about the most non-intentionally funny funny film I've seen in years. Has there been anything else like it since?

MBE

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 06:00 PM

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 Apr, 2002 06:43 p.m.):(edited)
...Seriously, Dracula had to be just about the most non-intentionally funny funny film I've seen in years. Has there been anything else like it since?


I just saw a preview for the forthcoming Friday The 13th sequel Jason X that had me rolling in the aisle. And I didn't even have an aisle seat.

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Posted 15 May 2002 - 06:25 PM

I hated SPICE WORLD.

I hated STREETFIGHTER.

I hated BLADE RUNNER.

I hated THE PERFECT STORM.

I hated PEARL HARBOUR.

And I hated TOMB RAIDER.

There you have it. Another menial person's pointless opinions.

#10 PaulZ108

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 06:06 PM

TITANIC: My reasons to hate this have been mentioned.

THE WIZARD OF OZ: A little farmgirl's crack dream. So?

AI: Spielberg should be taken out and shot for this movie.

PLANET OF THE APES remake: Wahlberg can't act to save his life, the ending was predictable, and the whole thing looked cheap.

I also detest teen comedies. Being still 16 myself, I've noticed that the sad fact is that there ARE many teens like that. The ditzy blonde stereotypes and the potheads and everything. It's rather pathetic.

Star Wars is okay, but they portray it as some grand epic phenomenon. It's a film franchise reaching only it's fifth installment. Bond is reaching its 20th. Why doesn't Bond get so much legend treatment?

Austin Powers is funny the first couple of times you see it but it really annoys me now. I think it's part of the reason that Bond doesn't get the huge publicity and attention that Star Wars does. Austin Powers makes some Bond films seem campy and they lose their charm to some people. Mike Meyers needs to come up with his own damn ideas rather than robbing the Bond franchise.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 06:11 PM

Titanic
The Fast And The Furious
Gone In 60 Seconds
Scream movies
Saving Private Ryan
Mission Impossible 2
Moulin Rouge (or however the heck you spell it)
Swordfish
Panic Room
The Mummy Returns
Along Came A Spider
The Jackal
The Man In The Iron Mask

That's just off the top of my head, there's probably a lot more where those came from.

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Posted 15 May 2002 - 09:07 PM

My raspberry-list:

- Scary Movie (1+2)
- Batman & Robin
- M:I-2
- Pearl Harbour
- Meet Joe Black
- Deep Blue Sea
- Starship Troopers
- South Park
- Lord of the Rings
+ anything with John Travolta, Adam Sandler, Elijah Wood, Chuck Norris, The Rock, ...

And I LOVE "Titanic", "Gladiator", "Blade Runner" and "E.T."!!!

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 06:14 PM

PaulZ108 (07 Apr, 2002 07:06 p.m.):(edited)
Star Wars is okay, but they portray it as some grand epic phenomenon. It's a film franchise reaching only it's fifth installment. Bond is reaching its 20th. Why doesn't Bond get so much legend treatment?


Bond did have this legendary status on its fifth installment. It has had ups and downs since then but has never reached back to where it was in the Goldfinger/Thunderball/You Only Live Twice era.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 11:40 PM

I'll be honest. There are very few films that I've watched and thought 'trash'. But there is one.

Harry Potter!

Could they have stretched the film anymore? Put in anymore content? I was so bored by the end of it! It seems they included all of the book. It needs a seriously good edit!

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 06:15 PM

Mister Asterix (07 Apr, 2002 07:00 p.m.):

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 Apr, 2002 06:43 p.m.):(edited)
...Seriously, Dracula had to be just about the most non-intentionally funny funny film I've seen in years. Has there been anything else like it since?


I just saw a preview for the forthcoming Friday The 13th sequel Jason X that had me rolling in the aisle. And I didn't even have an aisle seat.


Ahhhh... the last time I had that experience was during the previews of Costner's The Postman... I couldn't stop the laughing even when the cramps in my stomach were threatening to unseat me. I might just have to rent that film one day to see if it lives down to it's promise.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 08:58 PM

Xenobia (07 Apr, 2002 05:57 p.m.):
Jim...no offense, but I think you missed the point of the movie. John LeCarre rewrote the screenplay of Tailor of Panama in such a way that Andy Osnard was no longer young, but an older agent looking for the big payoff. PB took as his cue to playing the role, a quote from LeCarre about his (JLC's) spying days, "They stole my youth." Pierce played his role as a man who feels he is entitled to being a misanthrope since the world has stolen his youth and his life.

AO is a brooding, misanthropic, mysgyngistic, creep. That's how Pierce played him and I think he did an excellent job.

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But...that was also the point of the book... More effective to have the sentiment about stolen youth coming from a more youthful character? I think so. Can't agree about Pierce Balsa's performance, but you pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess.

Brooding, misanthropic, mysogyinistic creep...hold on a tick, that's James Bond, isn't it? Last line of Casino Royale, if there are any doubters out there. How interesting. How...not very much of a stretch. If anything, ToP proves, I guess, that PB could play a true Bond (if he sorts his voice out). Not that that'll ever happen (or the voice). Shame.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 09:42 PM

Er, how can one have experienced a stolen youth when someone still has their youth? What was stolen from him, ages 23-27?

Ahem. Pierce's voice is more than fine the way it is, it's sexy as hell. I'd consider it a waste for him to try and change anything so lovely just so someone who generally can't stand him anyway would dislike him a tad less. Rather pointless, no? ;-)

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 10:39 PM

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 Apr, 2002 06:38 p.m.) (Edited):
... I have a very low Tom Cruise tolerance...
MBE


So do I.

I'm not too fond of Michael Douglas either.

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 11:00 PM

Harry Potthead
Lord Of The O-Rings
Star Bores

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Posted 06 April 2002 - 07:46 AM

Jim (06 Apr, 2002 07:43 a.m.):

5. The Tailor of Panama. A new entry to the list. Wholesale massacre of a mediocre text, which itself is a thinly disguised rip-off of Our Man in Havana (which is exquisitely written). Its existence is pretty inexplicable, and Mr Brosnan is staggeringly miscast.


Seriously agree.

Story goes nowhere, seems to have been filmed through a cup of mud and Pierce Brosnan (and to give her her due, Jamie Lee Curtis) is staggeringly wooden to the point when Greenpeace are threatening to tie themselves to this paragraph to stop me writing any more about it. There are probably worse acted films (somewhere) .


I don't think at all it is worst acted. Though you don't trust the biased opinion of Brosnan clan, trust the army of critics. Personally, I think John Boorman is more an actor's director, unlike the new MTV director, though his style is too dated and his films are definitely not my taste.

http://www.members.t...OP/reviews.html

and worse filmed and worse photographed and worse written, but I've rarely seen a film which seemed so pointless.


ANd amateurishly edited as well.

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Posted 16 May 2002 - 11:52 PM

Almost forgot these:

Jaws 3 and 4: Oh, the horror. Not of the shark, of the crummy special effects, (more prominent in the fourth feature), and of the storylines. In 1975, Steven Spielberg made a phenomenal film titled Jaws. Later, Jaws 2 came along. Okay, fine. A sequel was predictable. At least it actually took place in Amity, unlike the others which took place in Florida and the Bahamas. Poor Michael Caine and Lorraine Gary. Excellent actors, yet woefully miscast in Jaws 4. Oh well. In the end, I pray that Jaws 5 is not being produced. There is no need to hack up a great film anymore. I'll bet Peter Benchley and Spielberg are really cheesed off at this point. Thank you for reading if you read the whole thing. I tend to natter on and on at times. Especially on things that bug me.

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Posted 14 May 2002 - 11:45 PM

Ghosts of Mars. A nice acid shower seemed nice after watching that.

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Posted 17 May 2002 - 02:23 AM

I also hate:

Independence Day
The Patriot
American Graffiti
The Last Temptation of Christ
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Scary Movie
Dungeons and Dragons
Pearl Harbor
The Mummy
Legend


oh and anything Harry Potter...

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Posted 14 May 2002 - 05:40 PM

James Page (08 Apr, 2002 12:00 a.m.):
Harry Potthead
Lord Of The O-Rings
Star Bores


Thank you James! You are the voice of reason. All of these hyped up wannabe franchises that churn out sci-fi dross every year seriously need to be stopped (they'd probably say the same about Bond). George Lucas sucking every penny from the IT Body odour generation when they really should be spending their money going out, having fun and getting a girlfriend that they did not find on an Internet chat room or mail order from China. I despise Lord Of The Rings the most, it offends me greatly because it mercilessly shaved 3 hours off my life... and I ventured all the way to Bolton to see it. Peter Jackson winning all of those BAFTAs!? Give me a break the man didn't deserve one of them... ooo well done you can use CG images to make your film look good...well tell me Mr Jackson why is you film so badly plotted? Why is your prologue so short and cramped, why include Liv Tyler and Cate Blanchett's rather pointless scenes? And if you're telling me that you used them to set up the other three films then may I ask you why you are making films that don't stand alone as single films... why leave a film with an ending like that? Because you want to take another

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Posted 07 April 2002 - 03:29 PM

Titanic (1997) - This is the most overrated Film in movie history,(no that title goes to Gone with the Wind) I get a sense, that everyone was overacting in this movie. When you ask people what is so good about this movie? In response: Oh the ship sinking. No reference to the film actors. And call me a heathen, but I didn't cry at the end, it was too predictable. I preferred the version filmed starring Barbra Stanwyck.

Pearl Harbor - Once again, what is it with producers, thinking that people prefer the romantic aspect of every traumatic event that happened in history? I prefer Saving Private Ryan over this one, for the simple fact that it didn't throw a female counter part in their just for brain candy.

The Saint (Val Kilmer and Elizabeth Shue)- this movie doesn't do any justice to the show. It had so much potential of being a good spy flick. But it lacks luster and pinache, and would have done quite better if another actor had taken the role of Simon Templar. (Bad move make Val kilmer for not doing Batman)

Speaking of Batman: Batman and robin. This movie really p***ed me off. For several reasons. Gotham City looked like circus. The Casting, was unbelievably crude.
Robin characters was too obnoxious. I didn't like how BatGirl was introduced. I felt that Schamaucher went to over top when doing this film

Mission Impossible: thoughts : HEAVILY CENSORED. that's all i have to say. I cannot began to say how much I disliked this film. My sentiments however, are similar to what Barbra Bain from the original cast said about it in an article.

E.T. : OOOOOh, this film, I find insults my intelligence in every possible way. I am probably the only person in the whole entire world, who does not like this movie.

The English Patient - This attempted to be Romantic as possible, but the same time, I find it dry and Colin Firth was underused in this film. By looking at the main character one should have known that he would die eventually. I don't Blame Elaine (Seinfeld), I would scream that I hate the movie.

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Posted 14 May 2002 - 04:59 PM

I really hate ET...for that matter most Speilberg stuff
anything by Michael Bay
anything where people talk out of their rears
and a whole lot more

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Posted 14 September 2003 - 09:49 AM

Why does no one mention - The Fugitive? Without doubt the most overrated film I can recall - a poorly made t.v. movie of the week
with the biggest gaffs in editing history - and how the bejesus Newton Howard was nominated for an Oscar for that score? any1?

Raiders Of The Last Ark - how could an action movie fail everytime
to excite? The times I have sat through this trying to find its adrenalin.

E.T. Why did they give this creature the voice of a witch?

Snakeeyes - It is like a dull dream that you cannot awaken from - only the production design and De Palma's continued obsession with colours that help dilute the bitter taste.

The Green Mile - King dramatises every capital punishment book ever written [I should know, I've read them all]

Chaplin - Who really cares if he made the world laugh and that he will again? Any1 ever even tittered at Chaplin? Groucho is the one they should have gone after. This films only plus + John Barry's deep score.

The Sixth Sense - Shyamalan makes films the Text Book way - that's what Film School does to new directors/writers. This film can only ever be watched no more than 3 times and then you see how empty it is.
There is really only one great effective scene, ironically little to do with his main characters: Woman in red dress who slowly poisoned the young girl.

The Perfect Storm - For the life of me........

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Posted 14 September 2003 - 01:27 PM

I have a deep dark secret:
















I loathe Harry Potter


(and I have a right to - I hated the books too - years before they made the movies).

He is a smarmy little self righteous git - and I had the round glasses years before he did.

But then again I suppose you would be a tad smug if you had a bunch of the most prestigious award winning dudes the British film industry has ever produced (put all their awards together and you could probably rebuild the titanic) telling you how magical and special you were, even though you hadn't actually done anything.

Things that I KNOW will never happen in the next Potter Movie:

The film doesn't start with Harry being tormented by the Durseleys, then escaping back to Hogwarts for an adventure remarkably similar to the last one.

All the highly trained wizardry staff will not be completely useless and leave the fate of the universe up to a bunch of twelve year olds.

Voldemort will not - once a fricken gain - rise up from the grave to try to unsuccessfully kill Harry.

The little git with the blonde hair, Draco (or any of his relatives and friends) will not spend half an hour of screen time sneering at Harry ( and or his friends).

The guy who plays Ron Weasley will not overact.

There will be a plot.

Perhaps my expectations are too great? But then again I have a feeling I will be proved right.

#29 Loomis

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Posted 14 September 2003 - 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Dr Niles Crane
I loathe Harry Potter  


(and I have a right to - I hated the books too - years before they made the movies).  

He is a smarmy little self righteous git - and I had the round glasses years before he did.

But then again I suppose you would be a tad smug if you had a bunch of the most prestigious award winning dudes the British film industry has ever produced (put all their awards together and you could probably rebuild the titanic) telling you how magical and special you were, even though you hadn't actually done anything.


Agreed 100%, Dr Niles. I also loathe the Harry Potter phenomenon - I saw the first film at the cinema and thought it was mediocre, at best; a few weeks ago I bought the second one on DVD for my young niece, and we watched it together. Well, actually, I did my best to sit through it, but it almost made me physically sick. I wouldn't touch the novels with a bargepole - admittedly, one cannot pass judgement on something one has not experienced, but then again, you don't have to fall off a cliff to know it hurts.

What I find especially nauseating is the fact that so many adults go nuts over the Potter books. Has there ever been such an absurd case of the Emperor's New Clothes?

You might enjoy the following article (from http://www.countercu...yatt110703.htm_):

Harry Potter And The Childish Adult


By A.S. Byatt


New York Times
11 July, 2003

What is the secret of the explosive and worldwide success of the Harry Potter books? Why do they satisfy children and

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Posted 14 September 2003 - 01:59 PM

I understand Hairy Pooter is a much better film.