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#1 Alex Zamudio

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 06:35 AM

A Little information about Martin's Campbell type of direction for a Bond film, what he thinks of the Timothy Dalton flicks, and his opinion on the pace of the older James Bond films. This can give us a small idea of his vision for a 007 movie, this is from 1994-1995.

This is from an interview during the production of Goldeneye from the book "For Your Eyes Only" by David Giammarco. ECW Press, 2002

... But Campbell definitely knew going in that he had to shake- not stir- to the contents of the two last Bond films in order to save the series. "To be honest, I didn't like the Tim Dalton films, " Campbell admited. "For me, Tim wasn't a good Bond. Not that he's not a fine actor, 'cause he is. But I though he was too angry and too aggresive about the whole thing. And we didn't have the humor, which is absolutely essential. It's got not quite take itself seriuosly. And that never worked on the two last films. I felt they were past their 'sell by' date, to be quite honest with you. Apart from a new Bond, we needed a better cast, better acting, and a better story. and that's what we've done."
Added Campbell, relaxing momentarily in his director's chair between camera setups on Goldeneye, "This film moves faster that other Bonds. It's funny, but you look at some of the old Bonds, and it's just amazing how slow they seem now. They wait a lot longer before there's another piece of action.
"But I tend to direct at a fair pace anyway," added Campbell, nodding in the direction of the bustling crew members. "And the truth is that in the '90s people get bored very quickly, so you've got to keep the whole thing moving. From that point of view, I think Goldeneye is going to be faster that any previous Bond."
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Do you agree with him? if he still thinks like this, do you think Bond 21 could
satisfy your expectations for a new direction for 007 based on these opinions?

I like Goldeneye a lot, and I think Campbell did a remarkable job, the film feels elegant and exotic in a new high tech way for the '90s, but I would like to see a little return to the gritty thrilling style of the Dalton films, but Campbell doesn't seem to like this style. But anyway if he endorses Clive Owen, maybe he does consider a darker edge for a Bond film this time, because Clive Owen is the only way to go for an edgy 007 film.

Let's see what happens if he is hired!

Regards.

p.s. about the book I got this from, this is a very good and entertaining book, it covers all the EON movies, has lots of interviews with all the stars of past and present, it's main focus is the behind the scenes aspects of the fims, and it does a very good job, in the Brosnan era, it covers a lot of interesting ground lacking in the DVD documentaries of the recent films, and its updated all the way to Die Another Day.

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#2 Martin Mystery

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 08:16 AM

Alex, thanks for posting this. Very interesting indeed. I liked Tim Dalton's approach - but I also liked the look and feel of Goldeneye.
All in all, I'll be a happy man if Martin Campbell is the director of Bond 21. If Clive Owen end up being the next Bond I'll be dancing on the table with joy :)

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 09:31 AM

I was'nt aware of those Martin Campbell's opinion. This suggest that the positive elements of GE are due to Michael France presumably writing his story with Dalton in mind, and that the less positive aspect of the film are due to Campbell. So his return is maybe not as promising as I thought.

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 01:37 PM

I read that article when Goldeneye came out. That's part of the annoying press machine that accompanied the Brosnan era..."Tim took it way too seriously"...etc.Ok fair enough. Tim was a serious Bond. but I thought Brosnan took himself too seriously(borderline manic depressive grimaces on his face at times),which is diffrent.It was an uneven performance.I was expecting a more Remmington Steele-sque/Roger moore happy go lucky Bond based on all the anti-Dalton dirt I was reading(Thomas Crown is Brosnan's ideal Bond template IMHO).

Goldeneye was an OK Bond film. I'm sure he can do better if he gets a superior script so I support his hiring...I'm curious to hear his thoughts on the 97-2002 films. :)

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 01:41 PM

"I didn't like the Tim Dalton films ... I felt they were past their 'sell by' date, to be quite honest with you. ... It's funny, but you look at some of the old Bonds, and it's just amazing how slow they seem now. They wait a lot longer before there's another piece of action. ... And the truth is that in the '90s people get bored very quickly, so you've got to keep the whole thing  moving."

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Will BAD BOYS II be Campbell's model for BOND 21, I wonder? :) Oh, well, I'm sure Purvis and Wade will be able to come up with a suitably braindead, action-packed script for us dummies with the attention span of goldfish and then all will be right in the world of Bond. :)

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 01:59 PM

What's odd with this Campbell's interview is that Goldeneye is rather slower than LTK and even than some "old Bonds". And one of the relative qualities of GE was not to be a brain-dead, action-packed movie like TND.

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 02:00 PM

[quote name='Loomis' date='12 November 2004 - 07:41']
[quote name='Alex Zamudio' date='12 November 2004 - 06:35']"I didn't like the Tim Dalton films ... I felt they were past their 'sell by' date, to be quite honest with you. ...

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I think 'Daylights and LTK improve with age...lots of fans here have done a 180 degree evaluation of them.Goldeneye is an entertaing but very flawed Bond film but hardly the vast improvement on recent Bond films it was being ballyhooed to be. :)

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 02:06 PM

I think 'Daylights and LTK improve with age...lots of fans here have done a 180 degree evaluation of them.Goldeneye is an entertaing but very flawed Bond film but hardly the vast improvement on recent Bond films it was being ballyhooed to be. :)

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Yeah, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENCE TO KILL appear better with each passing year (watching TLD on DVD recently, it seemed to me a masterpiece, the THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK of the Bond franchise; why Lenny Maltin gives it only **1/2 in his usually spot-on "Movie Guide" [out of a possible ****], I'll never know, but, anyway....), while GOLDENEYE has lost much of its sparkle.

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 02:17 PM

[quote name='Loomis' date='12 November 2004 - 13:41'][quote name='Alex Zamudio' date='12 November 2004 - 06:35']"I didn't like the Tim Dalton films ... I felt they were past their 'sell by' date, to be quite honest with you. ... It's funny, but you look at some of the old Bonds, and it's just amazing how slow they seem now. They wait a lot longer before there's another piece of action. ... And the truth is that in the '90s people get bored very quickly, so you've got to keep the whole thing

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 02:46 PM

........... suitably braindead, action-packed script for us dummies with the attention span of goldfish........

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There's nothing wrong with their attention span, indeed they are eternally concentrated on what is just around the corner.

It's remembering where they've just come from that they have problems with.

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 09:09 PM

They take forever establishing the plot and introducing and reintroducing characters and establishing Bond for the '90s.

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And what a time waste that was. I'm betting just about everyone who bought a ticket for GoldenEye had a reasonable idea of who James Bond is. He's one of the best known fictional heroes on the planet. Unless your going to radically re-invent him in some way, which wasn't the case with GoldenEye, why not just dive into the story and let the characters actions speak for themselves?
Instead they killed the pacing of the film by trying to explain the nature of Bond using dialogue scenes that were neither as profound or clever as they'd like to be.

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Posted 12 November 2004 - 10:20 PM

"And one of the relative qualities of GE was not to be a brain-dead, action-packed movie like TND".

Goldeneye was far more action packed than TND. You do realise TND had the shortest pre-production time in the series history - meaning 2 major action set pieces had to be shelved as they had no time to 'do them', and it shows. TND is a bore with little action.

As for Campbell, I call him aggressive when he talks about the Bond series and its a little rich him calling Dalton aggressive.

I find Campbell as a director mediocre - rather like David Arnold, he is a hack and directs like a hack. The series, as I have said before, is in better condition financially than ever, which should mean they take more risks not less. Cubby always looked forwards, to be ahead of the competition, not follow the competition. The 'new' producers are always harking backwards which is a sign that they are dried up creatively.

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Posted 13 November 2004 - 04:28 AM

"And one of the relative qualities of GE was not to be a brain-dead, action-packed movie like TND".

Goldeneye was far more action packed than TND. You do realise TND had the shortest pre-production time in the series history - meaning 2 major action set pieces had to be shelved as they had no time to 'do them', and it shows. TND is a bore with little action.

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Nice to see I'm not the only one who realizes TND not being the wall-to-wall action fest it usually is tagged. It has a shorter running time than the others by at least 10 minutes as well, making it seem more action-packed. But the balance between action and story and the others stuff is the best of the Brosnan movies IMO.

As for the TLD thing, I think the story is good enough and Dalton's performance enough to keep me interested in things going on besides the action. This is something the last decade of films has seemed to have lost.

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Posted 13 November 2004 - 06:52 PM

I read that article when Goldeneye came out. That's part of the annoying press machine that accompanied the Brosnan era..."Tim took it way too seriously"...etc.Ok fair enough. Tim was a serious Bond. but I thought Brosnan took himself too seriously(borderline manic depressive grimaces on his face at times),which is diffrent.It was an uneven performance.I was expecting a more Remmington Steele-sque/Roger moore happy go lucky Bond based on all the anti-Dalton dirt I was reading(Thomas Crown is Brosnan's ideal Bond template IMHO).

Goldeneye was an OK Bond film. I'm sure he can do better if he gets a superior script so I support his hiring...I'm curious to hear his thoughts on the 97-2002 films. :)

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Martin comes off as defending his Goldeneye against Dalton's films, there's no way in hell Brosnan's peformance in GE beats Dalton's in his 2 films, Brosnan played the role too cautiously, played it safe, he's admitted that, Dalton from the very first scene witht the wind blowing on his face in the living daylights, lit the screen up. It took Brosnan more time to find his Bond,
Dalton found it in his first scene, he made you believe in this dangerous Bond.

Goldeneye's story comes off as best of Bond stuff, Living daylights and licence to kill are the series strong storylines along with OHMSS, Russia, Dr No etc.

I believe EON never really gave Pierce Brosnan his true Bond, he was always searching for it, and had some great scenes like in the beginning of DAD, but the messed it up and choose to ignore it in the rest of the film, TND in the first half, I believe that half is the best we've seen Brosnan's Bond, he was great in that, 2nd film, more confortable, alot of energy, the 3rd act prevented it from being perhaps the best Bond film for a long time, but I think it showed Brosnan's Bond in better light then Goldeneye.


To put things straight, the English understood Dalton's Licence to Kill and made it number 1 for 6 weeks! Goldeneye was number 1 for like 3 weeks-4weeks, I believe alot of what made GE successful was the marketing campaign, impressive, new Bond, the movie was alright, not impressive, it was aways intended to launch Bond, but not be the defining movie, TND was a improvement, it's 3rd act prevented it from being brilliant rather then very good, TWINE, DAD, all seemed to have made creative sell outs, characters like Christmas Jones, Jinx, waste of screen time, screen time better used for Bond and Renard etc, Bond and Miranda Frost, Miranda Frost-Rosamund Pike was more stunning and deserved to be on the movie poster of DAD then Halle Berry.

Things like this, and I don't blame Brosnan, he was a hired gun, EON dropped the ball in silly mistakes which otherwise would of made each Brosnan Bond film better and better easily, so they can repay him now by not giving him his 5th Bond which he deserved in my opinion, he deserved a good story for his Bond, but they dumped him.


James Bond fanchise=very hard to mess up
EON-MGM-SONY-PRODUCERS-easily have messed up brosnan films from being better then they are.
Cubby Brocolli to Barabara Brocolli-don't let them screw it up, well whatever is going on, maybe Sony influenced??? we can't really know the real reason behind it.

Why was Brosnan dumped? Answer lies with EON-MGM-SONY, somewhere in there, there messing Bond up, parties are comprimising and leading to bad decisions, maybe Sony wanted a younger Bond to bring in more numbers, some dumb reasoning to bring in more youth, exactly the reasoning that would scare away adult fans, things like this , political behind the seens crap spoiling
Bond.


If I had the money to buy the Bond rights, hire my own writers, I'll give you guys kick :) Bond film, character, good action, all of it, it's not hard to do, but studios-producers have to comprimise their great Bond film, Pierce Brosnan being outed is the worst decision I've seen from EON-MGM, while some of you may think yeah cool, new Bond coming, don't let it get to your head, you may wait and have another flawed Bond film, short from being great if they wanted too, but not being bad, because the Bond formula is too cool, and they take it for granted, and you guys will watch it and make them money, so it'll continue.


Some fans around here talk about the box office of films as if it's more important then the quality of the Bond film, whats the point of having Bond continue, if there gonna make all new films like 60-70% of what they can really do with it? It's easy to make a Bond film that's successful, hammer up the action, put some character in it, make the trailers look impressive, screw your Bond actor-brosnan, by giving him less character work and more action, and the opening weekend is big, but once all the numbers are counted and gone, your left your dvd at home, and watching, are you happy with the character and story, could it of been better.

In this respect Licence to kill and living daylights are always getting new fans, new Bond fans look up Dalton and his films, they are cult films, and see what a Bond should have in it, the connery films as well, balance of character then action, the Bond character is too cool, so you focus on him first, then action later, not the other way around.

Edited by SeanValen00V, 13 November 2004 - 07:21 PM.


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Posted 14 November 2004 - 07:45 PM

I watched Goldeneye today (first time in a few years), and it is a very, very good film. Campbell is an excellent director, and if he directed Bond 21, no matter who the Bond is, it'd be an excellent Bond film.

And Clive Owen could definitely pull it off. I just wish he was a tad older.

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 09:58 PM

I was'nt aware of those Martin Campbell's opinion. This suggest that the positive elements of GE are due to Michael France presumably writing his story with Dalton in mind, and that the less positive aspect of the film are due to Campbell. So his return is maybe not as promising as I thought.


Exactly what I always thought. What fun Bond21 will be: Hack writers, hack director and not even a cast main character who IS the franchise. Couple that with the return of the same MI6 gang and you can bet I won't be seeing B21 at the cinema.

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Posted 16 November 2004 - 02:41 AM

What fun Bond21 will be: Hack writers, hack director and not even a cast main character who IS the franchise.

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bitch, bitch, moan, moan, nag, nag.
It all gets so tiring.

Campbell is not a hack.
If he is such a hack then why did the pre-eminent filmaker of our time, Steven Spielberg, personally tap him to direct the Zorro film he produced?
Oh wait.
Let me guess.
Spielberg is a hack, according to you, as well, right?

Campbell is a top notch choice.

It's time for alot of you to stop playing the role of stereotypical pessimistic internet film geek to a tee.
The series is in no ways near the severe irremediable state of disrepair (as many of you would have us believe).

EON delivered an absolutely fantastic epic Bond adventure with DAD ( lousy CGI grumblings aside) and I have no doubt whatsoever that they will deliver us yet another winner in B21.

Now, by all means, feel free to resume captiously ragging on the series to no good end and being totallly unappreciative for this 4 decades + old franchise's protean ability to persevere in the face of an unremittingly saturated action movie market.

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#18 SeanValen00V

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Posted 16 November 2004 - 05:16 AM

What fun Bond21 will be: Hack writers, hack director and not even a cast main character who IS the franchise.

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bitch, bitch, moan, moan, nag, nag.
It all gets so tiring.

Campbell is not a hack.
If he is such a hack then why did the pre-eminent filmaker of our time, Steven Spielberg, personally tap him to direct the Zorro film he produced?
Oh wait.
Let me guess.
Spielberg is a hack, according to you, as well, right?

Campbell is a top notch choice.

It's time for alot of you to stop playing the role of stereotypical pessimistic internet film geek to a tee.
The series is in no ways near the severe irremediable state of disrepair (as many of you would have us believe).

EON delivered an absolutely fantastic epic Bond adventure with DAD ( lousy CGI grumblings aside) and I have no doubt whatsoever that they will deliver us yet another winner in B21.

Now, by all means, feel free to resume captiously ragging on the series to no good end and being totallly unappreciative for this 4 decades + old franchise's protean ability to persevere in the face of an unremittingly saturated action movie market.

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I'm appreciative, but at the same time, worried, sensitive, emotional, angry at the current establishment, post Cubby's death,

but I'm supportive of their Bond 21 campaign, at the end of the day, we can shout whatever we want in these forums, EON will do things their way, that's that, these forums act like a psychological help for our sanity, because so many of us wait long for Bond films, and when they come, they either deliver for us, or make us expect too much, without discussion of what we thing is wrong as well as right, we can't bottle that stuff in, otherwise EON would of sent Bond to our heads with his licence to kill, bang bang, were overcooked.


I am normally someone who hates criticising what he's a fan of, at the end of the day, I've enjoyed and rewatched Brosnan's Bond films many times, even with problems in them I notice now, so when I talk about them, it's general concern about the quality of future films, because I believe with more care they can make much better Bond films, telling you people my concerns won't make EON work any diffently, it's just talk isn't it, seeing who agrees, good discussion, us fans, we the watchers of Bond, at the end of the day, are part of the reason it's still going on, in that sense, we have every right to talk how we want about it.


EVERY POST, EVERY POSTER IS RIGHT ACCORDING TO THEIR OPINION, yet we post on, because we feel fufillment when majority of us agree such such was bad, or such and such was good.

One example is TND holding up very well, and being a favorite among Brosnan fans etc, I'm sure fellow Brosnan fans enjoy knowing there's other people who share similar tastes. Same with Tim Dalton and his fans.

Martin Cambell has fans, while some others thing maybe he an't that special, because if he had the script of TND, and Roger Spottiswood had Goldeneye, what differences would we really see, etc

I'm more with the theory, every director needs a script to jump into that suits his style, John Glen-a view to a kill, John Glenn-licence to kill, you'll hardly noticed he's the same director, such different tones of film, due to script and actor.

So when Cambell does Bond 21, if he does it, people will expect Goldeneye style, but will they get it, or will it be a different tone, that looks similar to say Roger Spottiswood, because the script, actor etc make it so........

Edited by SeanValen00V, 16 November 2004 - 05:23 AM.


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Posted 16 November 2004 - 06:07 AM

I was going to give a pithy reply, but you're right. It is all tiring.

Time to watch TLD again: a real Bond movie.