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[Agent 76]

Hey do you think that , if GoldenEye had been with Timothy Dalton in the lead role , that it could have been better or at the same level or even it could have been worst , than Pierce's one?

[bebopfoot]

I think that had Dalton been in the film it would have been fantastic and probably just as good, but of course we'll never know. I did like Brosnan's sort of youthful Bond performance in the film, and Dalton wouldn't have played it that way. However, that doesn't matter, because it didn't happen.

[Turn]

I think it would have been interesting to see Dalton's Bond interacting with a female M. However, I don't see him getting squeezed by Xenia.

The thing that would have concerned me is it would have been two "personal" Bond films in a row for Dalton, which may have made him, in retrospect, the personal Bond the way many of us see Brosnan as now.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I don't see Dalton in Goldeneye at all. It's just not him(I agree the sauna scene was ridiculous/embarrassing and makes Brosnan look wimpy by comparison so I'd hate to see Tim do that), rather like Moonraker isn't his type of film. If Dalton had done Goldeneye in 1991 maybe it would have been great but I think after 6.5 years a new Bond was what the series needed to reboot.

We'll always have two great Dalton films to enjoy with Dalton in his prime, unlike three other actors who aged and or starred in weaker films.

[License To Kill]

Can't you see our beloved Timothy at the finale, daggling Alec by his ankles and responding "For England, James"? with a gruff, mean "No, for me". Oscar-worthy if I do say so myself

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

It would have been interesting, but what made the film so good was Brosnan. Dalton's hard-edged attitude would have felt worn-out by now to the new formula the producers were aiming at. Though Dalton and Sean Bean would have more electrfying chemistry together (their clashes would have been grand!), It felt right for Brosnan to come in.

[Qwerty]

It might have been an interesting film to see, and no doubt I'm sure it thought about constantly by fans as a what-if, but I'm glad GoldenEye is the way it is. I see it as a Brosnan film and not a Dalton film.

That said though, you could surely expect some changes if it was to be a following film for Dalton. GoldenEye has in my opinion a dark edge to it that is sometimes covered by it's boldness and gloss of being the Bond film that brought Bond into the 90's, I think that darkness might have been hinted at more if Dalton had starred in it.

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

[quote name='Turn' date='5 October 2004 - 13:19']
I think it would have been interesting to see Dalton's Bond interacting with a female M. However, I don't see him getting squeezed by Xenia.

Yes, I wouldn't felt the sexual tension between the two. Especially the steam room scene. Dalton would have felt too old for the younger, more vibrant Famke Janssen. The chemistry would have felt like, let's say in the relm of Roger Moore and Grace Jones.

Uhh...it's just not right.

[Qwerty]

Can't you see our beloved Timothy at the finale, daggling Alec by his ankles and responding "For England, James"? with a gruff, mean "No, for me". Oscar-worthy if I do say so myself

I know you're just pointing out how well Dalton might have been LTK, so don't take this too deeply, but I don't know about that considering the awards that the films recieved and when they did. Such as For Your Eyes Only I believe being the most recent to get them.

In any event, there are some nice Dalton in GoldenEye posters here: 007 Art

[Ozzel]

I could see it work for most of the film, but I just can't imagine the line "No more foreplay" being as good coming from him.

[Jim]

It might have been interesting, if only because at the start of the film there's a lot of stuff about Bond being irrelevant, redemption blahdy blahdy blah which would have tied in with Licence to Kill, I suppose.

This is, of course, assuming that the only change there would be is the change in lead actor; I would anticipate that the script would have been very different.

[Scottlee]

Dalton would have done most of the scenes perfectly capably...

-The intro (just as good)
-The ending (Hell, would have been better if Dalton had dropped Bean. Imagine the scowl Dalton would have given off. Powerful)
- The scenes on the beach with Natalya.

And of course there are plenty of scenes in there that Dalton wouldn't have been able to match Brosnan on. My overall view is, though, that Dalton wouldn't have done a bad job on Goldeneye at all.

[hrabb04]

I will make a deal with you. If you have the power to have Dalton for Goldeneye, then I want Connery for OHMSS.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

At times in Goldeneye, it really seems like Pierce was trying to be Tim-esque. He played the movie a lot angrier than he did any of his other three. And frankly, some part of me always hopes that it's Tim charging across that Dam in the beginning before you see Brosnan's face. Tim would've been phenomenal.

[Janus Assassin]

I dont know if Dalton would have been good in GE, just as that we don't know if Connery was in OHMSS, if it would be the best Bond film. I just think that the script and the action was written for Pierce and not Tim. I can't see Tim behind the driver seat of the tank.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I can't see Tim behind the driver seat of the tank.

I can, it's pretty damn funny, though I agree it doesn't fit as well.

[SnakeEyes]

Assuming only minor script changes, this would have been an absoloute corker if it had been Dalton #3 in 91. Anyone who could watch this film and not like Dalton after it...must be mad. It even made me like Brosnan as Bond!

In the more gritty scenes, I always see Dalton rather than Brosnan and the pretitles and ending would have been amazing with a harder Bond.

[CharlieBind]

Hey do you think that , if GoldenEye had been with Timothy Dalton in the lead role , that it could have been better or at the same level or even it could have been worst , than Pierce's one?

If Tim played Bond in Goldeneye I don't think I would have bothered to watch it. I just can't stand Dalton's Bond, tim's a decent guy but he lacks the charisma that the role needs.

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Seems to me that he would have given Xenia a goood smack-around in the sauna scene, rather than looking kind of helpless. I'd imagine that the scene in Statue Park would have been brilliant, though.

The revenge theme itself would have been perfect for Dalton, but I think if it wasn't approached properly, it could have been too dark, and Bond would have ended up bashing Mishkin on the head with a chair during the interrogation scene or something.

[Max Zorin]

I dont know if Dalton would have been good in GE, just as that we don't know if Connery was in OHMSS, if it would be the best Bond film. I just think that the script and the action was written for Pierce and not Tim. I can't see Tim behind the driver seat of the tank.

That's exactly why this is a hard concept to wrap one's head around. Each movie is written with that specific actor in mind, to play to his strengths and weakness. Goldeneye being the possible exception to this rule, as they weren't sure yet of Pierce's strenghts. Tough like Connery? Cruel like Dalton? Kilt-crazy like Lazenby? Comical and over the top like Moore? They seemed to play all these cards in GE to see which suited Brosnan best.