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[gkgyver]

I have to say that I'm fairly shocked how the producers of Troy treated Gabriel Yared and his incredible score for Troy.
Business or not, I think it's not right to reject a monumental score like Yared's work only because of one foul test screening that included music which wasn't even finished at that time and expect another composer, as experienced as James Horner is, to pull off a "better" TWO HOURS score in less than ONE month.
I wonder how Horner managed to stay alive during that time.

I've listened to Yared's Troy score on his website and to Horner's work and have to say that I really don't understand how a director is able to reject a score like this. This is just as bad as if Tim Burton had rejected Elfman's original Batman score or Peter Jackson kicking Howard Shore after Fellowship.

[HellIsHere]

Gabriel Yared is one of the BEST movie composers of all time. I'd say he would do a terrific job if he was the man for the next James Bond movie. Just listen to the Talented Mr. Ripley or the English Patient. He is very good.

[JackChase007]

A friend of mine saw Troy and said that Horner's score was bland and generic Horner, and that Yared's music is vastly superior. I listened to a few clips myself - pretty good stuff.

[Kingdom Come]

As I have posted on the IMDb boards re Troy's rejected score, how could or would any1 reject ANYTHING that Yared would write, only tells me yet again, that Wolfgang is a popcorn manufacturer. Yared is probably the most exiting and heavily profound of composers - even outstripping Barry.

[Tanger]

I just read this yesterday and my immediate thoughts were 'how petty'. Why would anybody want to dismiss someone's months of hard work? It's just stupid. I seriously hope that Yared's score get's released as it truly is vastly superior to Horner's.
Actually isn't "Horneresque" a common phrase when referring to movie scores to mean bland, uninspired and 'heard it all before'?

[Kingdom Come]

Composers scores do get rejected. As a film is only months/weeks away from its release date it is not that surprising that directors/producers and the studio can get very fraught/panicky. Barry's scores have been rejected a number of times as have most composers completed scores.

Morricone scored Scarlet Letter after John Williams was first choice, only to be replaced by John Barry who had three weeks to compose and conduct it and ironically, it is one of Barry's most haunting works. The Prince Of Tides - Barry completed most of the score and then left due to too much interfering from its director. The Bodyguard, Barry left after its several producers each wanted a different score. Even After [film] demo theme by Barry was rejected. The End of the Affair - Barry composed a demo which was rejected. Goodbye Lover composed full score which was then rejected. The Horse Whisperer, composed full score which was rejected after Barry refused to re-score parts of it. Though two or three cues from it have ended up on his non-soundtrack album, The Beyondness of Things, the 1st of three non-soundtrack albums - the 2nd is Eternal Echoes.

[ChandlerBing]

Actually, the rejected Horse Whisperers is on The Beyondness of Things. Horner's score for Troy incorporates cues he's been reusing since 1984's Star Trek III. Most of the people doing the score rejections don't know a lick about music anyway. They obviously don't know what they are doing.

[JackChase007]

Most of the people doing the score rejections don't know a lick about music anyway. They obviously don't know what they are doing.

Yeah, like when last year, Jerry Bruckheimer ditched the great adventure composer Alan Silvestri (who had previously kicked major a** with his amazing score for The Mummy Returns) with Pirates of the Caribbean in favor of a generic, run-of-the-mill MediaVentures action score from Klaus Badelt.

Jerry Goldsmith composed two or so different scores for last year's Timeline, which was ultimately rejected because director Richard Donner repeated changed the film drastically, and newcomer Brian Tyler was called in. Tyler offered a disappointing, unfullfilling rehash of his wonderful Children of Dune score, while those reviewers fortunate enough to get their hands on Goldsmith's rejected score let it known that Goldsmith's was much better. Varese Sarabande announced last Christmas that they'll be officially releasing the Goldsmith score in a Deluxe Edition...but there hasn't been any word about it since then. I have actually managed to hear a clip of his score, and all I can say is.....wow.

[gkgyver]

To Horner's credit, you have to say that no composer can come up with something spectacular, when he has to do a two hours score in three weeks.
Such a suicide mission can only go wrong. It's a waste of paper, energy and people's skills. I've yet to hear a last second score that doesn't sound rushed.

[trs007]

Varese Sarabande announced last Christmas that they'll be officially releasing the Goldsmith score in a Deluxe Edition...but there hasn't been any word about it since then. I have actually managed to hear a clip of his score, and all I can say is.....wow.

The Goldsmith rejected score can be found in certain filesharing circles and it's almost 70 minutes, as can Yared's Troy, alebit it's far from complete. The "sampler" from the Yared website clocks in at 38mins.