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#1 1q2w3e4r

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 04:18 AM

This is from the other thread on Revolutions. I thought i'd post it here to so people who didn't get the films could have a read. Anyone should feel free to ad on to it. I've just thrown this together and left out a heap of stuff.... :) Call me up for generalising. Seeing this movie unlike the first or second isn't about simply watching an action sci-fi film, it raises questions about belief, faith and ideology. You can't watch this film like you can the first or second and not analysis it and actually enjoy the film.

(Whoever said it's left open for a fourth film, i'm sorry but your wrong)

Which is good, the first two had elements to analyse if you chose this one thrusts them upon you.

But I tend to think that people who don't like the second or third films miss the subtext or ideology of these films.

These films work well because they follow the path or journey of a hero (much like why star wars was so successful.)

The Matrix premise itself is stemmed in mythology of both Roman Catholicism and Budist principles.

Buddist beliefs hold the idea that life is only "real" in the interpritation of the senses of the mind and body. eg. touch, sight, taste etc

The first film explored this pretty extensively with the explanation from Morphus about the machine world and that all human's were "plugged" into the matrix to live. The "jacking" in to the matrix symbolises a connection between the real world, and the dream world. There's much made out of sleeping or "waking" in the first film, waking symbolises enlightenment, or knowledge.

As to the origion of the matrix. It's well explained in the first film, and built upon on the second. Basically the whole journey of "the one" has occoured before. Five or six times to be precise, and each time the machines have breached and defeated Zion and the matrix has been restarted by the "source" or archartech (spelling?) and has allowed some people to begin repopulating Zion.

This might sound pointless but it works in the triology's ideology because the first film brings up the idea that while life inside the matrix is a dream, people feel that something is missing, or feel abstract from their world. By having people in the real world free these individuals inside the matrix, they are being presented with choice.

Choice as discussed in the second film is key to human nature. Because the matrix is based on mathematics principle. At the end of the second film the Architect explains that when the population of the matrix didn't have choice the world was perfect and that their natural human nature rejected perfection.

So, the oriacle introduced the concept of choice. Which resulted in a mathamatical anomaly, that being Neo (or the one)

Basically, the oriacle and architech are the "mother and father" of the matrix.

Now because of the concept of the one or neo (neo is made out of letters used in spelling one) we have a christ or buddist figure that is a saviour.

Much of the films (all three) are based on the concept of faith. The more faith you have the more you can break the "rules" of the matrix because you can see the matrix for what it is, a fictional world, or computer code.

Neo is able to defeat smith in the end of the first film because he has faith or belief (something Morphus tells him he needs). In having belief Neo is no longer awed by the concept of the matrix (as he is in the training program in the first film) but almost bored by it, because he can see the truth in it. see how bored and effortlessly he defeats Smith when he sees the matrix for what it is that it simply is computer code. This allows him to break the rules as i mentioned before.

Balance is also a theme throughout the trilogy. You cannot have peace without chaos or wisdom/freedom from the matrix without faith/belief

Now because Neo can break the rules of the matrix, in the second film. The Matrix is unbalanced, that's why Smith who in the first film talked about how humans were weak and felt emotions needs to "clone" himself to be able to meet Neo's level of power. We see Neo become more enlightened and almost Budda like in the second film. He can fight off dozens of Agents without raising a sweat.

Blue Eyes mentioned that it was unbelievable that Neo could fly. But in the ideology of the matrix and its rules by being enlightened and knowing "the truth" Neo is more capable of manipulating the fictional world. Like also in reloaded where the axe hits his arm, normally it'd take someones arm off, instead it only cuts him. This symbolises that he's only human, and does feel pain and bleed. (see JC on the cross)

There is a transformation between Agent Smith and Neo. Smith takes on all the human characteristics he despised in the first film and shows blind rage for killing Neo, where Neo becomes more emotionless in the second and third films and takes on Smith's "machine" like characteristics. This is about balance.

Which brings us to the third film and end of the trilogy and the series. By being stuck between the real world and the matrix Neo has in a sense "died" again like in the first film and is resurected.

By travelling to the source and machine city Neo does something that's never occoured before in the previous Matrix systems. He doesn't accept the choice in front of him or what's expected and instead makes another. By doing this he allows the people of Zion to live, however, it comes from his own sacrifice.

Pretty depressing stuff really. By killing Smith, Neo kills his opposite. In doing so, he knowingly kills himself. Smith (on the ship in the real world torments him that they are the same) So there's no fourth film. The cycle has been complete, however now the Zion can live in peace without attack from the machines.

Because, the principles of choice that the matrix is built on cannot factor out the anomaly of "the one" and that the people plugged into the matrix need to have a "choice" of being unplugged even if it's an unconcious choice.

Thats why even though people might miss the end of the film where Neo's lifeless body is being dragged along the ground and mistake him "seeing" (where its really a hightened level of enlightenment) for being alive, its the belief and spirit of "the one" not this version of "the one" that's still alive.

Hope this clears some things up for people.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 04:29 AM

Well having not seen the original, not really....what is THE MATRIX?

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 04:36 AM

Snowie think about it this way . The Matrix is a virtual world. It feels real but it really isnt. Neo the main character is the one and is givin the chance to be freed from it.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 04:38 AM

Originally posted by 1q2w3e4r
Blue Eyes mentioned that it was unbelievable that Neo could fly.


No, I find it unbelievable that Neo can fly around like Superman, but if just never in the right place at the right time. Conveniently allowing for action elsewhere.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:12 AM

That's a very good synopsis, 1q2w3e4r, I think you nailed it on the head.

Though I think, at the end of the first movie, when Neo defeats Agent Smith by jumping into him and, destroy his program, that part of Neo's program, became apart of Smith and vise virsa, so at the end of Revolutions,
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As to what is the Matrix? It is a computer program that looks and feels like the real world we know today, designed by machines in the year 2199 (or there abouts). The people that make up the world are real people, except they are grown in pods, and used for energy for the machines. They are connected to the Matrix by connectors in the back of there heads that allows there consciencness to connect to the Matrix. So, if they die in the Matrix, they die in the real world, because the mind believes it has died, when it has only died in the programe.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:53 AM

I enjoyed the films and didn't find them too perplexing...I especially enjoyed the sequel's new character,the Marovingian. I wish he were more explored. I think this thing should have been a quadrilogy-it felt hurried to me. Like LOTR, it needed a long running time to get the resolution. That way the ending would have been more satisfying and the new narrative crumbs like the the train station could have been explored...also, the silver bullets used by Persephone to kill her husband's henchman: Are they Werewolves and vampires? How about a battle with Neo and those guys? It would have been awesome-and not standard Kung Fu, more like the fighting in the X-men...lost opportunities...sigh...I liked the films.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 09:29 AM

Nice synopsis, can you explain how all of this allows Neo to be able to use his 'matrix ****' in the 'real' world in the second and third movies?

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 09:45 AM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
what is THE MATRIX?


So said the poster campaign for the 1st movie.
If the movie were to be believed....the matrix is the world you and I are in right now. But are unaware it isn't real.
Its like a VR program we are living blissfully unaware that our bodies are actually in cold storage being used to provide energy for the machine world.
(If you get around to seeing the 1st movie, its all explained in there.)

#9 1q2w3e4r

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 10:40 AM

It's about faith, or enlightenment. I thought I mentioned this above. The more faith Neo has the more his abilities increase. It helps balance out Smith in the real world. But more importantly forms a connection between man and machine and the personification of smith as human is done with his increased emotions throughout the second and third installments. He is in a sense becoming "less" enlightened, while Neo is the oposite.

if you noticed, Neo no longer asks "what truth" am I searching for.l

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 10:49 AM

To put it in a different perspective. The directors/writers aren't going to provide you with all the answers. That's not the aim of the films. The aim is to envoke thought out of the viewers. Since the mythology is based on belief and Catholicism and Buddist principles it follows the same matra of those. How do we know JC existed? Or how did he achieve the feats he did? Belief.

Now whether you believe in organised religion really has no bearing, its the idea (of it) thats used in the films.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:29 PM

why is there a thread on this? its too hard to understand if you havent seen the movies. SO just watch the movies over and over and over till you get it. That simple.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 06:49 PM

Originally posted by mattbowyer
Nice synopsis, can you explain how all of this allows Neo to be able to use his 'matrix ****' in the 'real' world in the second and third movies?


I'm too sure, but I think it has something to do with that Neo is a program as well, so he was always capable of doing that stuff in the real world, he just wasn't ready. That is why at the end of Reloaded, he goes into a coma, because that power was too strong for him then. It seems to me that he has some sort of wireless connection to the machines, so that he can control them.

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:10 AM

The Matrix series is tripe, though I found the special effects to be fun. However, as a movie [at least the first one] Matrix is nothing but an outright plagiarization of the Bible - the messiah message. Not much original thought going on there :) .

There is some growing cult-like behavior around this series concerning spirituality. This is beginning to remind me of the kids who get into Wiccan because they watch Buffy or Charmed on TV. The energy involved in pursuing this pseudo-spirituality is better spent visiting a mainstream religious organization - like a real church.

As for special effects, I think we as a society are getting bored with it. I do see a return to movies with more true "content", as opposed to visual stimulation via special effects.

As I posted on the thread concernig favorite movies, you can see where I am coming from.

Cheeers,

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:50 PM

Originally posted by 1q2w3e4r
This is from the other thread on Revolutions.  I thought i'd post it here to so people who didn't get the films could have a read.  Anyone should feel free to ad on to it.  I've just thrown this together and left out a heap of stuff.... :) Call me up for generalising. Seeing this movie unlike the first or second isn't about simply watching an action sci-fi film, it raises questions about belief, faith and ideology. You can't watch this film like you can the first or second and not analysis it and actually enjoy the film.

(Whoever said it's left open for a fourth film, i'm sorry but your wrong)

Which is good, the first two had elements to analyse if you chose this one thrusts them upon you.

But I tend to think that people who don't like the second or third films miss the subtext or ideology of these films.

These films work well because they follow the path or journey of a hero (much like why star wars was so successful.)

The Matrix premise itself is stemmed in mythology of both Roman Catholicism and Budist principles.

Buddist beliefs hold the idea that life is only "real" in the interpritation of the senses of the mind and body. eg. touch, sight, taste etc

The first film explored this pretty extensively with the explanation from Morphus about the machine world and that all human's were "plugged" into the matrix to live. The "jacking" in to the matrix symbolises a connection between the real world, and the dream world. There's much made out of sleeping or "waking" in the first film, waking symbolises enlightenment, or knowledge.

As to the origion of the matrix. It's well explained in the first film, and built upon on the second. Basically the whole journey of "the one" has occoured before. Five or six times to be precise, and each time the machines have breached and defeated Zion and the matrix has been restarted by the "source" or archartech (spelling?) and has allowed some people to begin repopulating Zion.

This might sound pointless but it works in the triology's ideology because the first film brings up the idea that while life inside the matrix is a dream, people feel that something is missing, or feel abstract from their world. By having people in the real world free these individuals inside the matrix, they are being presented with choice.

Choice as discussed in the second film is key to human nature. Because the matrix is based on mathematics principle. At the end of the second film the Architect explains that when the population of the matrix didn't have choice the world was perfect and that their natural human nature rejected perfection.

So, the oriacle introduced the concept of choice. Which resulted in a mathamatical anomaly, that being Neo (or the one)

Basically, the oriacle and architech are the "mother and father" of the matrix.

Now because of the concept of the one or neo (neo is made out of letters used in spelling one) we have a christ or buddist figure that is a saviour.  

Much of the films (all three) are based on the concept of faith. The more faith you have the more you can break the "rules" of the matrix because you can see the matrix for what it is, a fictional world, or computer code.

Neo is able to defeat smith in the end of the first film because he has faith or belief (something Morphus tells him he needs). In having belief Neo is no longer awed by the concept of the matrix (as he is in the training program in the first film) but almost bored by it, because he can see the truth in it. see how bored and effortlessly he defeats Smith when he sees the matrix for what it is that it simply is computer code. This allows him to break the rules as i mentioned before.

Balance is also a theme throughout the trilogy. You cannot have peace without chaos or wisdom/freedom from the matrix without faith/belief

Now because Neo can break the rules of the matrix, in the second film. The Matrix is unbalanced, that's why Smith who in the first film talked about how humans were weak and felt emotions needs to "clone" himself to be able to meet Neo's level of power. We see Neo become more enlightened and almost Budda like in the second film. He can fight off dozens of Agents without raising a sweat.  

Blue Eyes mentioned that it was unbelievable that Neo could fly.  But in the ideology of the matrix and its rules by being enlightened and knowing "the truth" Neo is more capable of manipulating the fictional world.  Like also in reloaded where the axe hits his arm, normally it'd take someones arm off, instead it only cuts him.  This symbolises that he's only human, and does feel pain and bleed.  (see JC on the cross)

There is a transformation between Agent Smith and Neo. Smith takes on all the human characteristics he despised in the first film and shows blind rage for killing Neo, where Neo becomes more emotionless in the second and third films and takes on Smith's "machine" like characteristics. This is about balance.

Which brings us to the third film and end of the trilogy and the series. By being stuck between the real world and the matrix Neo has in a sense "died" again like in the first film and is resurected.

By travelling to the source and machine city Neo does something that's never occoured before in the previous Matrix systems. He doesn't accept the choice in front of him or what's expected and instead makes another. By doing this he allows the people of Zion to live, however, it comes from his own sacrifice.

Pretty depressing stuff really. By killing Smith, Neo kills his opposite. In doing so, he knowingly kills himself. Smith (on the ship in the real world torments him that they are the same) So there's no fourth film. The cycle has been complete, however now the Zion can live in peace without attack from the machines.

Because, the principles of choice that the matrix is built on cannot factor out the anomaly of "the one" and that the people plugged into the matrix need to have a "choice" of being unplugged even if it's an unconcious choice.  

Thats why even though people might miss the end of the film where Neo's lifeless body is being dragged along the ground and mistake him "seeing" (where its really a hightened level of enlightenment) for being alive, its the belief and spirit of "the one" not this version of "the one" that's still alive.

Hope this clears some things up for people.


he he:D

i thought people might try to "read" too much into the mindless mumbo jumbo that is 'the matrix' trilogy.

:)

i saw revolutions over the weekend...and i'd see it again....but not for any intellectual or spiritual reason.

matrix revolutions, folks, is a great battle movie. thats it! (i was starting to yawn and nearly fell asleep until the attack on zion...that was a FANTASTIC battle scene...it sure got my attention!!! gripping stuff, worthy of a second big screen viewing!)

i think those who want to try and 'figure' it out might as well make an appointment at the loonie bin! (*chuckling like mad, here*)

as for wanting to get 'religion' out of it, wooooohhh..."cult", anyone??? if you want religion...go straight to the source (eg. Jesus Christ) not the wachowski brothers:o:rolleyes:

i did like the merovingian scenes, he's always amusing (more so in the second one). and, thankfully they had less tecno-babble mumbo jumbo stuff from the architect in this one (in part two it was total stupiditiy - or lunacy, take your pick)

yes, revolutions is a terrific "battle" movie. 7 out of 10 as a rating.

(btw, notice how they have their cgi at night and in the rain so they can "get away" with it. at least in DAD, they put their balls on the line by having the para-surfing going on in bright daylight. THAT was cutting edge)

p.s.

i got more "spiritual enlightenment" out of that new disney annimated movie "Brother Bear" yesterday than anything the wachowskis could throw into revolutions.

(*loonie bins of the world are getting ready to make room for all the matrix-ites of the world out there. whooooohhhoooo!!!*)

:):):o

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 01:35 PM

and o, i also like the matrix for some asthetic/visual reasons. the fashion is 'cool'...neo looks truly cool, trinity is HOT and dresses accordingly...and the merovingian has a fantastic sense of style. very stylish (esp in part 2).:):cool:

in addition, i like some of the tecno, symphonic and choral ques in the score. some good stuff in there!:)

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 01:10 AM

Either that or it all went over your head! :) The score wasn't as good as the first film i didn't think

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 01:25 AM

I'm not too fussed with writing reems of paper (or post window space) on the whole Matrix movie universe. Suffice to say that I liked the first one because it was highly original visually, but wasn't too enthused about the 2nd one, and can't be bothered to see the 3rd one until it comes out on DVD.

One thing I find highly amusing is that someone needs to explain what it's all about. Mass media for the masses, indeed.


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Posted 11 November 2003 - 01:47 AM

Interesting Analysis. I'm pretty sure Joseph Campbell would explain the Matrix films in the same way, if he was still alive. I remember reading his work the Hero's Journey,and explain how in myth, the hero goes into an ongoing cycle. He does uses Buddhism, and Greek mythology as examples in explaining this cycle. (FYI: George Lucas was a fan of Campbell's works) Sure there's a uncanny resemblance to the Matrix and other ancient philosophical enlightenment theories. One could liken the main character of Neo, to Promethus, in a way. However, admittedly when seeing the first installment of the Matrix, the philosophical/spiritual connotations didn't come to my mind at first. At first, It reminded me of Aldous Huxley "Brave New World." This analysis is good and all, but I sadly came to see the movie for brain candy reasons, just to see Laurence Fishburne and to see Trinity in the tight leather outfit (just kidding).

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:08 AM

Originally posted by 1q2w3e4r
Either that or it all went over your head! :)  The score wasn't as good as the first film i didn't think


:) perhaps, but i dont think so. on the other hand, i DID do my undergraduate and graduate degrees in economics and finance and business ONLY to make lots of money and not for any alturistic reasons or for enlightenment...so may be it did go over my head. he he..

yes, carrie anne moss sure did look hot in those tights. yummy. that and the battle scenes and the merovingian's suit shirt and tie combo really caught my attention. :):cool:

as for the, um, mumbo jumbo, as i put it, well...couldnt care less!:):)

as for the score, at least it was a tad varied this time with the choral music thrown in for those wanting to correlate the flick with the 'religious/spiritual experience' aspect of things....

first there was the Ten Commandments and Jesus Christ...that was followed by Buddah, then Mohammad, then the Cows of India and then there was Lucas' 'may the force be with you'...and now there's Tolkien Revisited and the Wachkowski Brothers' "THE ONE"....as i said: whooooohhhooooo!!!!!

loonie bin, here they come....

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Blofeld's Cat

One thing I find highly amusing is that someone needs to explain what it's all about. Mass media for the masses, indeed.


Consider me here to for entertainment purposes :)

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:19 AM

Originally posted by 1q2w3e4r
Consider me here to for entertainment purposes :)

LOL

It good that someone like yourself has given time to explain these thngs and highlight a glaring shortcoming of the director brothers' vision.