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#1 Nixon007

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:04 AM

I never figured this out, though I haven't read many Bond novels. I suppose he's probably an anglican or something like that, but did Ian Fleming (or one of the other writers) ever mark down for certain what 007's religion was?

#2 CommanderBond

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:05 AM

good question.. but does it really matter what religion he has???

#3 SamuelKevlar

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:11 AM

My guess is he's an atheist.

#4 Qwerty

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:32 AM

You know, I've haven't thought about this for a while. I guess, Fleming really didn't want to bring this aspect into Bond's life.

#5 jwheels

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:36 AM

I don't think he really practices religion. I can't be certain, but I think he believes there is a God, but acociate himself with any particular religion.

#6 Bondian

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:56 AM

Being born and brought up in Scotland I would of thought he was a Christian, or maybe he just Bondian!!!.

#7 Qwerty

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Bondian
[B or maybe he just Bondian!!!. [/B]


Oh brother. LOL. :)

#8 Bondian

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Qwerty


Oh brother. LOL. :)


He-he. What's do you expect froma crank like me!!!. LOL


Cheers,


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#9 Jim

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 07:13 AM

Bhuddist, patently.

#10 Joyce Carrington

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 07:52 AM

I thought he was an atheist.... no?

#11 Dunph

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 03:29 PM

I always thought he was Sikh and wore one of Q's adaptively camouflaged turbans.



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#12 Nixon007

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 10:20 PM

I doubt he's an atheist, judging by the narration from the climax of LALD and other books. Perhaps he's what they call a "weak agnostic."

#13 BONDFINESSE 007

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 10:31 PM

i feel bond does not really have a religion, he job makes him be that way, that theres nothing he can believe in, or put his faith in, he is really screwed up in that regard

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 03:40 AM

Please don't ask me where this is, but I think Bond in one of the novels describes his upbringing as "Calvinistic" which goes along with him being Scottish, and could also be his religion, (Calvinist Protestant) should he chose to practice.

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 06:47 AM

Good memory, Xen.

I believe the bit you're remembering is from the chapter "Obit:" which is the second to last in You Only Live Twice. It is part of the obituary that M writes for Bond after he is presumed dead at the end of the novel. To quote Fleming:

"She managed to obtain his transfer to Fettes, his father's old school. Here the atmosphere was somewhat Calvinistic, and both academic and athletic standards were rigorous."

If you follow Pearson (Autobiography of 007) then Andrew Bond, James' father, was Calvinistic.

I agree that Fleming probably kept it close to the vest on purpose. He wanted Bond to be an "everyman," and keeping him free of a defining religion would certainly help meet these ends.

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 09:03 AM

Throughout the Fleming books Bond think about things like God, heaven & hell (Bond wonders what happens when someone goes to heaven - does he get reunited with loved ones), etc. I would guess that he would be Church of England - not practicing but believes in God.

We must remember that this 1950's England and that was the way people were brought up.

#17 Matt O'S oo4

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 12:08 PM

Possibly Baccus.

Oops, that's John Steed!

Nevermind.

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 01:50 AM

It's called "The Presbyterian Church of Scotland". It is based on Calvinism [from Calvin and also Knox]. This is Bond's church.

"The Church of England" is in England not Scotland, and it is different. It is what we in the USA call the "Episcopal" church. The episcopal version of this in Scotland is called "The Church of Scotland". Both answer to Canterbury, while the Presbyterians do not.

Last time I was in Edinburgh I attended St. Columba for services. This is an episcopal church, and thus kin to "The Church of England". Church attendance is much higher in Scotland than what is found in England or Wales.

[the advantages of classical education are seen above] :)

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 05:08 AM

Lift up his kilt. If he's got a 'quarter-pounder' he's a Mcdonald!!!.