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#1 terminus

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Posted 04 August 2003 - 12:32 PM

Hey everyone,

This is where you can discuss my script OUT OF DANGER ( which can be found at the following address:

HERE

I hope to get some constructive feedback on it and if anyone wants to get a sneek peak at the rest of it, then I do need a Beta reader.

This isn't a stunt heavy opening sequence - I wanted something rather low key and a fight in a lift ( inspired by the cut sequence in DAD ) was something that fit the bill. It might not seem to be entirely relevant at the moment, but the events of the pre-title sequence are central to the plot - but Claudia Fox isn't.

I'll give some hints that Bond will visit Canada ( Vancouver ) and Japan ( both Hokkaido and Tokyo ) and will team up with an old friend and find himself up against an old enemy. Which friend and which enemy they are will be left for you to decide ... and there's a suprise cameo by someone from Bond lore that everyone presumed was dead - and it's not who you might think it is ( nudge nudge satellite dish wink wink ).

There are four major Bond girls in it: Claudia, Jade, Lei Yu and Savannah.

And there's an interesting fight sequence in Japan ... :)

Yours,

Terminus

#2 ChandlerBing

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Posted 04 August 2003 - 01:20 PM

If Terminius can write a Bond script for Rupert, I am going to go and hit the old word processor and write one for either Matthew Perry and/or Steven Stifler.

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Posted 05 August 2003 - 03:32 PM

I don't see any harm in using Rupert Everett as Bond - he would be quite good at the role and has the looks and physique to ably carry the role off. He's also got the sex appeal and the sense of humour. But I do think his Bond would be much more like the Moore Bond than the Connery/Dalton/Lazenby Bonds.

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Posted 10 August 2003 - 06:06 AM

Originally posted by terminus
[B}( nudge nudge satellite dish wink wink ).[/B]


Yes! Trevelyan, the greatest Bond villain of all!

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 05:38 AM

Terminus, the following is intended to be constructive criticism that you can use to improve your screen play. It seems to me that you have more of the plot and story development worked out in your head than you have committed to writing. :)

I don't quite understand why Bond attacks Thug 1 and Thug 2 in the lift. I only know that they are adversaries of Bond by their names in the script. Can you place a scene before the lift scene that establishes what their motivations are? Are they trying to kill Bond? Are they going to try and kidnap Claudia Fox? Why do they wish to do Bond harm?

Perhaps have a scene where Thug 1 and Thug 2 are looking at a photograph of Bond and then look up and see Bond entering the lift. "Is that the mark that Nemerov wants dead?" "Is he the man we are looking for?" Something like that before the lift fight.

Who is Alexei Nemerov? Why does he want to kill Bond? I imagine they have had some sort of past dealings. Was Alexei Nemerov a character from another screenplay you wrote and you are tying up the previous story threads by killing Nemerov at the beginning of this story? Its clear that Bond and Nemerov dislike each and that Nemerov wants Bond dead, but I don't know why? You need to answer the why question. Is Thug 1 and Thug 2 employed by Nemerov? What is the connection? Is Nemerov a bounty hunter or professional killer?

The line:

Why can't you just be a good boy for once ?


Seems like a paraphrase of a line uttered by Sean Beann in Goldeneye

The line uttered by Claudia:

Is that how you greet your friends ?


Hunh? Why does Claudia say this when she has just heard Nemerov say he wants to kill Bond and has already threatened Bond's life? Was Nemerov an ally to Bond in the past? The line just doesn't make sense.

For that matter, who is Claudia Fox? Is she just some bird he picked up Monte Carlo Casino who he is going to take back to his hotel room to have sex with? Was she sunning herself on a yacht in the marina?

Well I assume that since you have Sean Bean in your fantasy cast I suspect you have an undead 006? :)

Does the anonymous caller give a reason why she is informing on the whereabouts of 008? Just somewhere on one of the islands that make up the country of Japan? Any city or building in particular? Was he seen entering the Tokyo Hilton? Was he seen entering an office building of some industrialist who is under surveilance? There's not enough information. Was he seen entering the embassy of a hostile foreign nation? 008 was seen entering the North Korean Embassy in Tokyo, for example. Could the "call" or communications with MI 6 have included some photographs? You mention Hokkaido later when you mention Hokkaido airport, so is he in the city of Sapporo?

I don't quite understand why Felix Leiter is on the Island of Hokkaido and meets Bond in airplane hanger. Sorry, I don't know the geography of Japan very well but isn't Hokkaido an island and also a prefecture like a province in Canada or a state in the United States? Aren't there several airports on the island? Or do you mean Hokkaido airport just outside Sapporo? So I am guessing that the anonymous caller told MI6 that 008 was somewhere on the Island of Hokkaido? Any place in particular?

San Monique health care system? Wouldn't it have declined when it lost the revenue from the sales of heroin? It seemed like it was a very poor place to me and Dr. Kananga was just enriching himself. Did Felix regrow the limb? You should mention that he walks with a limp or has other mobility problems because he was gnawed by a shark. In "Licence to Kill" didn't he lose his left leg below the knee? I haven't read the Fleming novel yet so the injuries he sustained in the book may be worse. Does Raymond Benson have him in a wheel chair in The Facts of Death?

Why is Q equipping Bond in the field again? Why is he not at MI6 Headquarters in London giving Bond the Aston Martin Zagato there and then having the car air freighted?

The Q Branch enhancements to the Aston Martin Zagato are clearly copied from the enhanced Jaguar XK coupe from the Raymond Benson novel The Facts of Death with the Goldfinger revolving number plate thrown in. Please give Raymond Benson credit at the beginning of your script for his ideas.

Sorry, I don't understand the "It's about time, Q" joke. It's about time that the watch has a magnetic pulse weapon? Or is the watch about time? Is this a joke based off of Spy Kids that previous watches were so full of gadgets that there wasn't enough room left over for a time keeping mechanism? Sorry, I don't understand it.

Isn't it Father Christmas in England instead of Santa Clause. I don't quite understand what the have fun unwrapping your present line refers to. I don't think of Q as a chick magnet like Bond. Besides, Father Christmas give presents, he doesn't receive them.

Can you please think of these questions when you write the second draft of your script? :)

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 05:04 PM

Terminus, the following is intended to be constructive criticism that you can use to improve your screen play. It seems to me that you have more of the plot and story development worked out in your head than you have committed to writing.



I quite probably _do_ have more of the plot and story development worked out in my head. I also appreciate any constructive criticism so thankyou for your comments. I'll try my best to reply to the comments here.

I don't quite understand why Bond attacks Thug 1 and Thug 2 in the lift.



Why does Bond attack Thug 1 and Thug 2 ? Perhaps they have been shadowing him ? I didn't think this out but merely wanted to jump into the fight - I'll take your comments into account when doing a second draft and perhaps further illustrate why they're attacking Bond.

Who is Alexei Nemerov? Why does he want to kill Bond? I imagine they have had some sort of past dealings. Was Alexei Nemerov a character from another screenplay you wrote and you are tying up the previous story threads by killing Nemerov at the beginning of this story? Its clear that Bond and Nemerov dislike each and that Nemerov wants Bond dead, but I don't know why? You need to answer the why question. Is Thug 1 and Thug 2 employed by Nemerov? What is the connection? Is Nemerov a bounty hunter or professional killer?


To fully answer this would reveal some plot points but they _have_ met before. They _have_ been friends at some point but Nemerov betrayed Bond and Nemerov is one of the henchmen of the main villain.

Why can't you just be a good boy for once ?


Yes. It's paraphrasing :) And it might just be a hint.

Is that how you greet your friends ?


There's a line earlier in the screenplay.

Bond (continued)
Or thankyou. Oh yes, only my enemies call me Bond.  
My friends call me James ...

The doors open and reveal an attractive caucasian man - this is Alexei Nemerov.  

Nemerov
Good afternoon, James.


I thought that this was a funny line and perfectly kicked into the 'Bond gets the girl' scene. It revolves around Bond having just said that only his friends call him James. Perhaps a change in Claudia's line to:

Claudia
With friends like him, who needs enemies ?


Would that be more appropriate ?

I'll answer the rest of your points tommorow.