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DAD references Red Dwarf?!


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#1 JimmyBond

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 03:35 AM

I just read over at the IMDB that DAD includes a reference to Red Dwarf in it. For the life of me I can't figure this one out, where the the heck was the reference? Unless of course Bond let out a huge "Oh smeg!" after letting the baddie get away :)

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 11:02 AM

No Kidding?!

I'm a huge Red Dwarf fan so I should have spotted it but I can't think of anything at all in the movie that is a reference. It might be fake though because wouldn't it be proper to state that there's a reference and then say what it is?

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 05:37 PM

If there was a reference to Red Dwarf in Die Another Day, I'm pretty sure I might have caught it.

IMDb does have some strange movie connections. For example, it said that The Matrix was spoofed by Godzilla 2000: Millennium and Godzilla x Megaguiras (I have both movies, and I cannot for the life of me find any spoofs).

#4 JimmyBond

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 10:37 PM

Well, I only spotted this cause I was on the Red Dwarf IMDB page, and went to the Movie connections section. Thats where I saw the spot, referenced in... and it listed DAD.

Still, it would be funny if after Bond hit the button on Grave's suit

Bond: And you have a date with Gravity (hits button).
Graves: Oh smeg!

While we're on the subject of Red Dwarf, I think Chris Barrie (Rimmer of course) would make an excellent Bond baddie. He might not be a physical match for Bond, but hell, he'd be able to outwit him :)

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 01:10 PM

Bond cuts off Mr Kil's arm to use on the palm reader to open a door.

Lister does the same thing to Kryten's arm in ep of Dwarf.

#6 JimmyBond

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 04:12 PM

That's kind of stretching to call that a reference dontcha think?

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 05:29 PM

Originally posted by marktmurphy
Bond cuts off Mr Kil's arm to use on the palm reader to open a door.

Lister does the same thing to Kryten's arm in ep of Dwarf.


Well, now that I've thought about it, the bit where Bond and Jinx uses Mr. Kil's hand to get through the security door is a sort of reference to "The Inquisitor" episode of Red Dwarf.

In it, Lister and Kryten have been marked for erasure from time by the antagonist of the episode's name, and alternate versions of them have taken their place ("our" Lister and Kryten haven't been erased just yet). However, the alternate Lister and Kryten get killed, and because the real Lister and Kryten don't "exist", Lister uses his alternate's severed hand to get through the Red Dwarf's security doors to get to Starbug.

Did that paragraph make sense? I was trying to explain the scenario to those who haven't seen the show.

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 05:30 PM

Originally posted by JimmyBond
That's kind of stretching to call that a reference dontcha think?


I call it theft of a joke, myself.

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 10:18 AM

I wouldn't, in the place of the film I'd just call it common sense. Seeing that scene, the first thing I thought of was to cut the arm off with the lazer. It's just the smart thing to do and what anyone would probably do in that situation.

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 10:24 AM

Films don't just naturally unfold, the writers and producers steer them in the direction they are interested in taking. Do you think the makers of Spiderman were originally writing a film about a kid at school and the idea of a radioactive spider just occured to them? No- they were making a film of Spiderman; they knew where the film was going because they planned it that way.

Its like Daniel defending the lack of real locations in the film with 'the script was like that' as if the producers had no control over the script.

They wrote it, they knew what they doing, they take responsibility for stealing gags.

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 12:31 PM

Makes you wonder who decides what's a "reference" and what's just a coincidence.

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 12:54 PM

I think somebody at IMDB might have just seen it and thought it was a reference but in relation tothe writing of the film it may be an unintentional coincidence.

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Posted 16 July 2003 - 03:08 AM

It's not hard to add stuff to imdb...try signing up as Pierce Brosnan's agent sometime...