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#1 4 Ur Eyez Only

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Posted 26 June 2003 - 04:20 PM

Ok.. I have heard that in the begining on TMWTGG the "Statue" of Roger/007 at Scalimanga (sp?) Place was a Wax Dummy??

I don't know when I look at that "Dummy".. it looks waaaay to real! It looks like to me that They had Roger pose.. and all they did was put a "lighter/white" makeup on his face!

Because I have seen allot of Wax Dummy in my life.. yes they look very real, but NOT that real!

Does anyone know for sure.. IF they used a Wax Dummy in any of the shots (of course not including the fingers being shot off :) ).. But in any of the other shots..

To me it looks like Roger,just standing there with a lighter makeup on his face..

any ideas?? ...or thoughts????

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Posted 26 June 2003 - 06:24 PM

I don't think it's a waxwork. Those gangsters are definitely real not wax. I'm sure one of them blinks. The cowboy looks like RM as well.

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Posted 26 June 2003 - 08:11 PM

yeah I think I saw Capone blink.. :)

we had a topic once about the roger cowboy.. and some think it was his stunt double..

who knows.. it does kinda look like Tora (from Octopussy):)

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Posted 26 June 2003 - 10:30 PM

it is roger i think, but it could be a wax dummy....a very good life like dummy........nah

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 12:04 PM

It is a wax dummy. Guy Hamilton says so on the DVD commentary. He also comments on how real it was.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 12:07 PM

Guy Hamilton's commentarys are not to be trusted. He exagerates on all his commentarys

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 12:21 PM

I'd expect it was probably wax on loan from Maddam Tussauds in London, they currently have Roger, Sean and Pierce in their archives (not sure if they're all on display).

I think on average their wax-replicas value at about

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:58 PM

At these prices, it would be logical that they did not use a wax-replica of Rogers.
Why spend that lot of money when you just need it for a few seconds? For the scenes in wich you see it from behind, they could use any ordinary display dummy anyway. For those with the face visible, well, they could do that makeup-thing.

This goes to show that both theories can be right: they used a wax dummy (albeit not a Roger/Tussaud one) and it was Roger himself (the face looks just too real).

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:25 PM

having gone back and looked again, i swear thats roger moore and no dummy

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 08:07 PM

I don't know if it is a wax dummy of RM in TMWGG or not, I do know however that as of this summer, Sean and Pierce's wax figures are in the party room, the first room you walk into in London's Toussards.

Later, on the "train" ride you take, you see Roger's stature in the last modern scenes of London.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 08:18 PM

God, I remember when I was five going to Tussaud's, and one memory I'll never forget was the figure of Tim Dalton in pose from The Living Daylightswith a gunbarrel surrounding him and the JB Theme blaring out. Magic.

I think I might also be able to recall Grace Jones too, but I might be wrong.

I'd guess that Tussaud's simply let EON borrow their waxwork that was on display at the time, that would save them money, as it would be uneconomical to have one sculpted just for a few seconds of screen time.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 10:37 PM

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
having gone back and looked again, i swear thats roger moore and no dummy

Only at the end of the movie when Roger takes the dummy's place.

You're not suggesting that Rog's acting was wooden or plastic in some scenes?
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 10:41 PM

It's on the DVD - they had a dummy specially made for the movie. You lot are always going on about 'Oh, but that would cost too much!'. Not so because in most cases things like this are made by someone, or relations of someone, already working on the movie and if I remember correctly, this is what happened here.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 11:00 PM

well if it is a dummy, its the best i have ever seen in my 36 years

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 06:56 AM

I think they used a dummy for a few shots.. BUT facial close up before they go to the main title sequence looks like Roger.. real life Roger with a lighter make up on..

also.. in some of the shots.. you can see the body/arm kinda move because NO one can stand 100% still..

who knows.. I say it is 70/30

70% Roger
30% wax dummy

* IF you look at the new Wax Dummy of Jennifer Lopez that got so much press a few weeks ago.. doesn't look as real 30 years later.. then the 1973 quality of 007 Roger?

How can that be.. wouldn't you assume that 30 years later the wax dummy's would look even more realistic then 1973:confused:

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 07:05 AM

Another classic piece of RM underrated acting. He's playing a wax dummy of himself and 29 years later we're still not sure!!

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 06:12 AM

I think that TMWTGG was the first 007 movie I saw on "The ABC Movie of the Week"!! Man did I love that before cable in the 1970's.. it was the only place to see old movies..

I still get pumped when I hear that theme!! I downloaded it :) by any chance does anyone know or does anyone have the Video of the Opening to that!! I found a cool site with old TV Themes... totally free very cool..

They have the video footage of it there.. BUT that is the only link that is broke :):mad:

does anyone have it :)

The link I am giving isn't any "kazaa" type thing.. just a normal site.. but check it out!! Listen to The ABC Movie of the week theme :)

http://www.80stvthemes.com/

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 03:44 PM

I remember hearing somewhere that it was actually Roger and not a wax dummy.

#19 DLibrasnow

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 02:43 AM

I think it is Roger posing. I really like the way that plays into the duel at the end...but my question is this --

Where did the dummy go?

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 08:13 AM

It made another 5 films.

Only kidding.I'm just saying it before some other bright spark says it.

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 12:31 PM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
Where did the dummy go?

James Bond probably hid it somewhere in the fun house.

#22 DLibrasnow

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 02:21 PM

Originally posted by David Somerset
It made another 5 films.

Only kidding.I'm just saying it before some other bright spark says it.


Once I placed the post I knew some smart a** would come out with that remark :)

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 02:45 PM

Poor old Rog!! He doesn't deserve it but you set it up so nicely!!!!

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 02:47 PM

I know....entirely unintentional I assure you :)