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[Tanger]

OK cheers. I haven't bought from there before, do they charge much for postage or do they go by weight? If it's the latter then it'll probably be quite cheap and'll probably cost me less than a quid!

[Sanchez]

I grew up in the 60's in England, and "The Saint" was very much a part of my TV diet. It is my opinion that dear ol' Roger Moore is by far the better of the two.

[Simon]

Originally posted by Tanger
OK cheers. I haven't bought from there before, do they charge much for postage or do they go by weight? If it's the latter then it'll probably be quite cheap and'll probably cost me less than a quid!

Postage is charged at a flat rate but if the CD is starting at 70p, you can't really go wrong.

[DLibrasnow]

I guess it should come as no surprise that CBNers seem to consider Roger Moore a better Saint than Val Kilmer

[Tarl_Cabot]

You really have to ask?

[DLibrasnow]

Well it appears some people I have talked to think Val Kilmer 's movie was better...

[Jaelle]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
Well it appears some people I have talked to think Val Kilmer 's movie was better...

Phillistines....!

[Blox]

...Moore topped Ogilvy & Kilmer easily -- and was more convincing as Templar than Bond imo.

Anyone recall seeing the tag scene from one of the "Saint" color episodes where Moore enters through a doorway, introducing himself as "Bond, James Bond"?

Blox

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Blox
...Moore topped Ogilvy & Kilmer easily -- and was more convincing as Templar than Bond imo.

Anyone recall seeing the tag scene from one of the "Saint" color episodes where Moore enters through a doorway, introducing himself as "Bond, James Bond"?

Blox

Hmmm....it must have been one of the later ones because I haven't gotten that far in The Saint megaset and I am already about 2/3 of the way through. Anyone know the name of the said episode?

[Blox]

I don't recall the name. It was probably toward the end of the series, it had the later arrangement of the theme. Definitely caught me by surprise...

[DLibrasnow]

BTW.....I really dislike that later arrangement of the theme,,,it doesn't work for me at all...

[Blox]

...shouldn't surprise you at all to learn that I preferred the later version!

[DLibrasnow]

Maybe it's because I am just not used to it yet

[Blox]

Perhaps. But I'd almost feel better if you just prefer the earlier arrangement. It'd be a dull world if everyone happen to like the same thing for the same reasons -- eh?

Cheers,

B l o x

[TheSaint]

DLibra, your co-worker who thinks Val is better as the Saint than Roger should be put in a burlap bag & beaten! I could go on & on regarding how much better Roger's portrayal was, or how Val's character could've been called "The Angel", "The Nice Guy", for all the difference it would've made, or how Leslie Charteris' widow had her husband's name removed from the film since the end result had NOTHING to do with the character he created in 1929.

As for the later version of the theme song from the Roger series, that's based on the theme Leslie came up with that was used in the radio show & the RKO movies staring Louis Hayward, George Sanders, and Hugh Sinclair.

[DLibrasnow]

I didn't know that. So, who do you believe gave the best performance as The Saint out of all those actors who have played the part?!

[Qwerty]

Ah, old thread. Well I've certainly gotten into the Saint quite a bit lately! I've now seen a bit of Val Kilmer's performance and it seems fair. But honestly, I think Roger Moore had that role inside and out. Quite good.

[Johnboy007]

Roger Moore!

[ChandlerBing]

Dennis Quaid was better than Val Kilmer. Oh, wait, you mean The Saint, not Doc Holliday. My bad. The Saint with Val Kilmer is a different kettle of fish altogether than the one Roger Moore did. They are apples and oranges.

[SimplyMoore]

Roger Moore will beat Val Kilmer as The Saint any day, but, I agree with Chimera01, no one could have played Jim Morrison batter than Val.

[Willie Garvin]

Roger Moore without question.Roger was the definitive Simon Templar and it was his signature role even more than James Bond could ever be.Of all the many actors who've played The Robin Hood of Modern Crime only Roger Moore pleased Leslie Charteris-The Saint's creator- and he was a notoriously selective individual.And during the course of the Saint tv series many of the classic Charteris stories were dramatized with grace,intelligence and style.An excellent series.

By contrast, the Val Kilmer Saint movie is an abomination and it probably would've killed Leslie Charteris had he lived to see it.It only made him turn over in his grave instead.

I resent filmmakers taking an internationally famous character and then altering it beyond all recognition but retaining the preestablished name.

The films' producer,Robert Evans(not the most trustworthy individual around at any time),had claimed prior to the making of this film that it'd be a respectful adaptation and remarkably faithful to the original Saint character.He'd obtained the rights to every one of Charteris' novels and stories--and that's a considerable number and quite expensive--only to have them jettisoned by an inept screenwriter and director and a miscast actor, none of whom cared about the material at all.They didn't even retain the Saint's famous symbol or theme music.So much for that franchise.They didn't trust the public to accept the real Saint.What a shame.

This was the equal of getting the rights to the James Bond character and then turning him into a two-fisted American private eye.Or a henpecked husband in a tv sitcom...Terrible.

Edited by Willie Garvin, 25 May 2004 - 03:51 AM.

[TheSaint]

I can't believe someone actually started this thread. There's no comparison! Roger all the way!