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The 007 Days Of 'Casino Royale'


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#31 Xenobia

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 04:34 AM

This is an utterly fascinating and informative take on the world that Ian Fleming lived in. More directly, I now have a good idea of how that world informed Bond's world.

Thank you Mr. Clink for an excellent article and superb job!

-- Xenobia

#32 clinkeroo

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 05:18 AM

Originally posted by jwheels57
Are Earl Stanley Gardner, Dashiell Hammett, and Mickey Spillane's novels still in print?


Gardner was extremely prolific, and much of his stuff has been lost to time, but a large chunk:) of the Perry Mason stories are still available as well as some of his other four running mystery series. Dashiell Hammett transcended the genre and is actually considered "classic" these days. Almost all of his stuff except for some of the early Black Mask material is alive and well at Amazon.com and the like (try The Thin Man, just amazing dialogue). Spillane is amazingly still kicking, unless he's died very recently and I didn't catch it. He is 81 and still writing away. Most of his books, including the Mike Hammer stories, are still available.

Barbara (aka not Barbie), merci des mots aimables.

#33 jwheels

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 08:11 PM

thanks for the info, Clinkeroo

#34 Mister Asterix

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:15 PM

Our own Daniel ‘Blue Eyes’ Dykes and I teamed up for today’s Casino Royale article:

The Fleming Blueprint: Casino Royale

#35 Mister Asterix

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Posted 13 April 2003 - 04:50 AM

Our last installment of the 007 Days Of Casino Royale is now posted, and just to make it big for the fiftieth anniversary we

#36 Xenobia

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Posted 14 April 2003 - 01:43 AM

Well done one and all! If this last installment has proven anything, it proves that CR needs to be made as an official Eon release, so Bond can finally cut loose in the story he was born in.

Again, my compliments to all the writers.

-- Xenobia

#37 TheSaint

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Posted 15 April 2003 - 12:29 AM

I liked all 5 of the "Casino Royale starring..." but, why Johnny Depp as Le Chiffre? Shouldn't he be either as old or older than Bond? Depp isn't older than Brosnan.

#38 Mister Asterix

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Posted 15 April 2003 - 11:45 AM

Originally posted by TheSaint
I liked all 5 of the "Casino Royale starring..." but, why Johnny Depp as Le Chiffre? Shouldn't he be either as old or older than Bond? Depp isn't older than Brosnan.


A younger Le Chiffre was my idea for that scene. It was an idea I had to add a bit of ‘the element of the bizarre’ to the character without significantly change the motovation of the villain. I found it seemed extra-creepy to have a younger villain that acts as if he is wiser and more world-weary, who treats people, even Bond, as if they did not understand the world like he did. Johnny Depp is one of the few actors with the skills to pull that idea off successfully.

#39 rafterman

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Posted 15 April 2003 - 03:28 PM

good stuff people.....and i find it interesting that a professor would disregard Fleming as Literature and just bow to the tried and true selections...I learned from my professors that it doesn't matter how old it is, who wrote it or what it's about...good literature is good literature and it all has value...to be denied Casino Royale is not good...it's a classic...

#40 JamesBondBlog

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 05:04 PM

I've also been re-reading Casino Royale and posting my thoughts on it as I go through the book. I plan to do all the Fleming novel. I would estimate that this is around the 15th time I've read them, yet each time I find new details or things that make me view things a little different.

I invite you to check out my thoughts at The James Bond Blog

Thanks, and keep up the great work in here.

#41 Qwerty

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 05:06 PM

Welcome to the CBn Forums! :)

I recommend you try out the CBn Blades Reading Club, where you can review up to this point all the Fleming novels from Casino Royale to Goldfinger. We are currently on Goldfinger. Just sign up in the Sign Up thread!

#42 JamesBondBlog

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 05:10 PM

Thank you for the welcome, I may indeed check out that club, as I can never get enough Fleming!

#43 Qwerty

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 08:37 PM

Cheers. :)

#44 Almadjian

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 10:03 PM

Like the 5-part article. I fantasized about how good the first installment would have been, skipped the second, liked the third, not the fourth, and finally wondered in the 5th whyn Johnny Depp? Bizarre he can be, but no Le Chiffre.

All in all- a great thread.

#45 Qwerty

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 10:11 PM

Kind of fits neatly into this all now that Casino Royale is finally being filmed.

#46 Mister Asterix

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 10:16 PM

Like the 5-part article. I fantasized about how good the first installment would have been, skipped the second, liked the third, not the fourth, and finally wondered in the 5th whyn Johnny Depp? Bizarre he can be, but no Le Chiffre.

All in all- a great thread.

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[mra]About Johnny Depp, I still like him as a choice; he

#47 tdalton

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Posted 22 May 2005 - 05:01 AM

I think that Johnny Depp could pull off a very good Le Chiffre. I think that people forget that he's an incredible actor who really throws himself into a part when he gets it. I'm sure that, under some good direction and re-reading of Fleming, that Depp could really bring out the character of Le Chiffre as far as his mannerisms and quirks are concerned, even if his appearance isn't quite what it should be for the role. He would be a very, very good choice for the role, as he would play it much darker than a lot of others might approach the role.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:41 AM

In the final sentence of the book, Bond says: "3030 was a double, working for Redland."

Redland is a codename for Soviet Union, right? :tup:

#49 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 05:10 PM

How's in the original CR edition the phrase "go ahead and the bullat may fail, go back and it wont fail" (I have the novel in spanish and I don't know how tha phrase appears in english) --- or, someone who speaks spanish "avanza sobre el enemigo, y puede que la bala falle, retrocede y no fallara"

Thanks

#50 Mister Asterix

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 05:26 PM

How's in the original CR edition the phrase "go ahead and the bullat may fail, go back and it wont fail" (I have the novel in spanish and I don't know how tha phrase appears in english) --- or, someone who speaks spanish "avanza sobre el enemigo, y puede que la bala falle, retrocede y no fallara"

Thanks



For them it was always safer to advance than to retreat. Advance against the enemy and the bullet might miss you. Retreat, evade, betray, and the bullet would never miss.



#51 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 05:30 PM

Lots of thanks

#52 Grackles

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:06 PM

I remember when these articles went up all those years ago. Hard to believe 2003 was "all those years ago". I went looking for them last week, but they seem to have been taken down. Any chance they'll be put back up.

Thanks.