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[General Koskov]

As far as I can remember, Roger Moore first wore a dinner suit in the gunbarrel scene in LALD, and all films since have had Bond similiarly attired.

But why? True, Bond was first introduced in a dinner suit, but had we first saw him in LALD, he would have been wearing nothing, then a pyjama coat. So would we then see him in a pyjama coat (or nothing!) during the gunbarrels? No.

So what symbol does a dinner suit have for Bond (rather than a business suit)? It could mean that he spends quite a lot of evenings formally, but we often don't find the shooting side of Bond wearing a dinner suit (notable exceptions to that). And if the dinner suit is such a 'symbol' (as many people would have us know) why wasn't it used earlier on?

Not that I mind the dinner suit. Just asking.

[zencat]

Actually, I think Moore started it in TSWLM. I think he's in a suit in LALD and TMWTGG.

I think Connery's intro in a tux in Dr. No started the Bond tux association.

[General Koskov]

Ah, TSWLM. Haven't watched LALD or TMWTGG in a while.

[Blofeld's Cat]

Not too sure if there is anything deep and meaningful about Bond wearing a tux.

Moore was a self-styalist (he chose all his wardrobe for The persuaders) and most likely asked Cubby if he's mind if Bond wore a tux on a more regular basis, including the gunbarrel sequence. Cubby may have just shrugged and said, "Why not." Since then it's just ingrained into our minds that Bond wears a tux.

Bond wearing a tux reinforced how debonaire and swank he really is when he's not down 'n' dirty in the sewers of villaindom.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

ACTUALLY SEAN CONNERY DID NOT DO HIS GUN BARREL SCENE UNTILL DAF, THE GUY WE SEE IS HIS STUNT DOUBLE BOB SIMMONS, when i first read that i am like no way, but after looking really hard you can tell its not sean, and they never gave a good reason for this only to say it was ceaper for the stunt guy to do then sean

[Blofeld's Cat]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
ACTUALLY SEAN CONNERY DID NOT DO HIS GUN BARREL SCENE UNTILL DAF, THE GUY WE SEE IS HIS STUNT DOUBLE BOB SIMMONS, when i first read that i am like no way, but after looking really hard you can tell its not sean, and they never gave a good reason for this only to say it was ceaper for the stunt guy to do then sean

Actually, Connery started doing it in Thunderball because the film was shot in Panavision. Then for Sean's subsequent Eon Bonds the same footage was reused.

[Turn]

The tux is one of those identifiable elements linked with Bond as much as the 007 logo, vodka martini shaken not stirred or an Aston Martin. I've heard more people make comparisons to Bond than anyone else when they put on a tux, and Bond has appeared in one in every movie since TMWTGG, so it's kind of a given. Lots of guys wearing suits carry guns, but Bond is one of the few who wears one with his tux.

I agree that's Connery's intro in Dr. No started it and it became part of the lore as the series went on. It's as guaranteed as beautiful women, evil villains, exotic locales and gadgets.

[goldengun]

I have always liked Moore's pose when he appears in the gun barrel.

He has one hand hold the gun, and the other to keep the aim steady. That's the natural way to hold a gun and shoot.

Sean (or stuntman) look like they are about to fall over when they appear in the shot.

Timothy looks like he just wants to get it overwith. I really wonder about this guy - accordig to John Glen TD wanted to walk around with his hands in his pocket - that was his idea for Bond.

Pierce - his pose is a little like Moore - but he just points and shoots. I like Moore's - his walk is so confident and then he holds the gun with both hands.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

did george have a gun barrel scene? its been so long since i watched that movie till i cant remember

[Turn]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
did george have a gun barrel scene? its been so long since i watched that movie till i cant remember

Yeah, his is unique. After a longer than normal beginning in which the gunbarrel stops midway through to reveal a credit reading "Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman present", Lazenby does the normal walk, whirls around drops to one knee and fires. Quite different than any of the others.

[1q2w3e4r]

Lazenby's is quite good. So's Dalton's.1

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
ACTUALLY SEAN CONNERY DID NOT DO HIS GUN BARREL SCENE UNTILL DAF, THE GUY WE SEE IS HIS STUNT DOUBLE BOB SIMMONS, when i first read that i am like no way, but after looking really hard you can tell its not sean, and they never gave a good reason for this only to say it was ceaper for the stunt guy to do then sean

Bondfinesse, I think the previous poster was referring to the scene at the beginning of Dr. No at the casino where Sean Connery is wearing a tux.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Bondfinesse, I think the previous poster was referring to the scene at the beginning of Dr. No at the casino where Sean Connery is wearing a tux.

yes i know but i wanted to segue in to that, since we were that close

[General Koskov]

I always thought this association of tuxedoes and Bond was something the bourgeoisies, that Fleming disapproved of, would do because they are so fashion deprived!

But who am I kidding, when I put on nice clothes, I think I look like James Bond!

As for my favourite gunbarrel walk/shot, it's a tie between Lazenby and Moore. They both look as if they are actually shooting at a sniper. Simmons/Connery are okay, but Dalton (have to watch again, though) and Brosnan seem too relaxed. Yes, we know you are cool, Mr Bond, that's what the nice duds show us. I hardly think one could hit the gunman with a PPK in one hand. Thus, the later gunbarrels don't make Bond look as deadly.

Doesn't Moore use a revolver, at least once?

[Mister Asterix]

Personally, I miss the hat.

[DLibrasnow]

I like what they did with the gunbarrel starting with GE. It looks more three dimensional.

[General Koskov]

It's called CGI, don't get too excited about the possibilities of CGI...

Am I right in thinking Moore uses a revolver in his gunbarrels?

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by zencat
Actually, I think Moore started it in TSWLM. I think he's in a suit in LALD and TMWTGG.
I think Connery's intro in a tux in Dr. No started the Bond tux association.

Connery was never in the gunbarrel sequence in Dr NO. That was Bob Simmons , and he was in a Business suit and a hat . Connery appearred in the gunbarrel form "Thunderball" since that was the first Bond shot in panvision in 1965 . Moore was in a suit from 1973 to 1977 when a new gunbarrel was shot for "TSWLM" . It 's been a Tuxedoed Bond ever since.