Plot rumour!
#1
Posted 27 July 2001 - 07:20 PM
The latest rumour to surface about Bond 20 alleges that the plot will revolve around Bonds father. Apparantley Bond will discover that his father did not die with his mother in a climbing accident and that Q had concealed this from him for many years. Bond will learn that his father was in fact a 00 agent and this will apparantley figure heavilly in the plot.
#2
Posted 29 July 2001 - 06:10 PM
#3
Posted 29 July 2001 - 09:56 PM
zencat (29 Jul, 2001 05:57 p.m.):
It definitely sounds like a fan plot. "Final Assignment" -- does that sound like something Purvis & Wade or EON would come up with? "Q concelled the info from Bond"... He uses the past tense with Q which is a real tell. Q is NOT dead! The actor is dead! Only a fan would see Q as being "dead" in the next movie.
However, I am intrigued by the mention of New York as a location. Didn't some guy a while back post that he had won a contest that promised a trip to the Bond 20 set, and that he thought it was going to be in New York? What ever happened to the guy? I do like the idea of NYC as a major location, but the climax in the crown of the Statue of Liberty is right out of the old WARHEAD script.
Hi Zencat, I`m the guy who won that trip to the Bond20-set and I was told by the guy who is supposed to give me all the information about it that the trip was probably 3 or 4 days America so when I read this rumor everyone is talking about, I thought: "Well, at least one thing is true, I`m going to New York but the whole idea of Sean Connery being Bond's father, I don't know but I think than it would become very commercial!
It is a awesome idea but it is a little strange that you'll see two Bond's in one movie, If you get my point.
For the rest, everything seems pretty normal to me!
#4
Posted 30 July 2001 - 10:12 PM
EON are forever adding these tempting lines to the end of their official press releases regarding the new films. The fact that this "leak" divuldged all of the details and left no mystery, smacks of a fan trying to get some attention.
Ho hum. I guess we will just have to wait for the official now =)
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J
#5
Posted 30 July 2001 - 12:04 AM
My source wants to be anonymous . I know all I need to know about him/her in order to tell you that it's reliable. I have to emphasize that it's NOT the definite screenplay. It's A plot for bond20 which is a basis for the final screenplay.
That's all I can tell you.
I categorized the news as a rumour because it doesn't come from EON or MGM. that's the reason.
So what do you all think of that?
#6
Posted 28 July 2001 - 04:07 AM
#7
Posted 29 July 2001 - 06:08 PM
But I've heard this about each Pierce movie. I remember seeing an internal memo at MGM in November 1998 which said of TWINE: "(Bond) will confront the darkest secret of his past -- a secret he knows nothing about and one that will change him forever."Boldman (29 Jul, 2001 06:50 p.m.):
Anyone else remember a while back, when we were told that the next Bond film would have something BIG in it, something thought too risky for GE? They did say it was something to do with his past.
At the time, there were all sorts of rumors saying the villain in TWINE turns out to be Bond's son, or M turns out to be the villain, or Q get killed... When I read this memo I thought, "Oh my God, it's TRUE! Something HUGE happens in TWINE!"
But alas, no. I guess this was just a ref. to the Electra twist. So I now very cautious when I read info like this. Even when it comes from the inside, it can turn out to be quite different than what it seems.
#8
Posted 28 July 2001 - 12:06 AM
#9
Posted 30 July 2001 - 10:07 PM
zencat (30 Jul, 2001 06:03 p.m.):
There's still something that feels very fan created about this, but I'm starting to get a little spooked. If it is true, there's more here than I wanna know.
You're spooked as well? That makes two of us It 'could' seem real, but there's still something I just can't place my hands on.
#10
Posted 29 July 2001 - 05:50 PM
I still don't believe it though. How could they do something with Q, when he's just been replaced? They couldn't really bring a new guy in a claim he's been there all that time.
#11
Posted 30 July 2001 - 12:00 AM
Boldman (29 Jul, 2001 06:50 p.m.):
Anyone else remember a while back, when we were told that the next Bond film would have something BIG in it, something thought too risky for GE? They did say it was something to do with his past.
Yup I know what you're talking about Boldman. It was about Bruce Feirstein writing a draft for GoldenEye that was too BIG for GoldenEye, something huge happened. I spoke to Bruce Feirstein himself about it! (You can find it in the news archive) and he just described the story as "bulls***". He never wrote such a thing.
I'd have loved to have read that memo Zencat! I wonder if they did ever toy with the idea of Bond's son etc... I guess it's a possibility.
#12
Posted 28 July 2001 - 03:11 AM
Mr Trump (27 Jul, 2001 08:32 p.m.):
*possible spoiler*
The latest rumour to surface about Bond 20 alleges that the plot will revolve around Bonds father. Apparantley Bond will discover that his father did not die with his mother in a climbing accident and that Q had concealed this from him for many years. Bond will learn that his father was in fact a 00 agent and this will apparantley figure heavilly in the plot.
Where did you hear/read that MrTrump. It sounds familiar. Did past rumours like this pop up at any stage? I can't recall right now.
And it does sound fan created Zencat. It sounds like something a fan would want and hence report. Mind you, it also sounds like something Brosnan would love. You can just imagine the emotion envoked by such a plot!
#13
Posted 29 July 2001 - 04:57 PM
However, I am intrigued by the mention of New York as a location. Didn't some guy a while back post that he had won a contest that promised a trip to the Bond 20 set, and that he thought it was going to be in New York? What ever happened to the guy? I do like the idea of NYC as a major location, but the climax in the crown of the Statue of Liberty is right out of the old WARHEAD script.
#14
Posted 29 July 2001 - 02:28 PM
Mr Trump (29 Jul, 2001 12:53 p.m.):
I don't think the rumour is true myself but I thought I would post it anyway. But if Bonds father was in the movie it could be quite intresting.
Yeah, I would like to see that too. But I don't think we will ever get to see into Bond's past in such a way, what with EON's "Always move forwards, never look back" policy that keeps being mentioned.
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J
#15
Posted 29 July 2001 - 11:53 AM
#16
Posted 29 July 2001 - 11:32 AM
Most of those rumours started on the JB newsgroup... I guess someone has got a bit enthusiastic and spliced them all together.
That said, I would like to see the helicopter chase through NY! (But no other reason for Bond going to the US, again =)
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J
#17
Posted 29 July 2001 - 10:43 AM
When you think about it, how implausible is it that in all his time at MI6 [or 7] nobody ever said to Bond, "Oh by the way, I used to work with your old man." Full marks though for working the discarded ice fall climb from TND into it, and the Sydney rumours.
Hey, if Connery's too expensive,maybe they could get George Lazenby to play Bond's Dad...or Roger Moore...?
#18
Posted 29 July 2001 - 10:02 AM
Some of this scenario sounds good to read but it tries too hard to explain all the past rumours, such as the BEYOND THE ICE title. I enjoyed reading it, but let's take it not with a grain of salt...but with a whole s***load of it.
#19
Posted 29 July 2001 - 08:07 AM
http://www.commander...stnews&page=132 is the direct link to the article. Well what can I say? Do I believe it? No, not yet anyway. It seems far too 'fantastic' (ie. fantasy).
#20
Posted 29 July 2001 - 05:44 AM
#21
Posted 28 July 2001 - 07:11 PM
Anyway, I just remembered something that further supports the falsehood of this rumor- remember during pre-production of Bond 19 when a flurry of rumors circulated about Bond's son being in the film? That was a red herring, this is probably one too.
Dave
#22
Posted 28 July 2001 - 06:23 PM
#23
Posted 30 July 2001 - 05:03 PM
There's still something that feels very fan created about this, but I'm starting to get a little spooked. If it is true, there's more here than I wanna know.
#24
Posted 30 July 2001 - 05:08 PM
No, I really think it was just a reference to the Electra twist. It was just a marketing memo that pitched upcoming MGM films so they tried to punch up the plot a bit -- as good marketers should do.Blue Eyes (30 Jul, 2001 01:00 a.m.):
I'd have loved to have read that memo Zencat! I wonder if they did ever toy with the idea of Bond's son etc... I guess it's a possibility.