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#1 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:59 PM

This has to be the start of a new trilogy  of Bond films or more. They wouldn't revive spectre and Blofeld only to blow it all up in one movie becuase that would be very dissapointing. And they could milk this storyline for the remainder of Craig's run. So does Christolph Waltz have a multi-pic deal?



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:04 PM

I agree.  This should be a two-movie arc with Waltz at the minimum.

 

EDIT:  ...and Mendes.


Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 05 December 2014 - 05:05 PM.


#3 Flash1087

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:13 PM

I'd been hoping for a Thunderball-esq trilogy here too, but it begs the question - isn't Craig out after 25? Lord knows they'll throw assuredly insane amounts of money at him to talk him into coming back for (at least) Bond 26, but nothing's for certain. Would the producers want to run the risk of doing a SPECTRE trilogy with a new Bond finishing it out, or will they play it safe and cut SPECTRE off after 2 movies so Craig fan finish it out himself?



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:21 PM

They need to crank the next one (B25) sooner than later...I want a Summer 2017,August release date. They outgrossed the Dark Knight Rises last time so they can play with the big boys again. Marvel-Disney-Warner bros arent dragging their feet so why should Eon? 


Just to add a point: I think the summer super hero movie market is going to get very saturated so it's a perfect time to get Bond back in the summer again. Real action with real(albiet extremely high fantasy)real people doing real things will be in demand again.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:49 PM

Well, if the Quantum-SPECTRE rumours are true, this is already a trilogy... Or more likely, SkyFall through to Bond 25 will be the 'Mendes Trilogy'.

 

I too want a 2017 release date for Bond 25, but at the rate they're going Craig will be 50 when it comes out. That's a good benchmark to reach. So regardless of how much EON throws at him, I wouldn't be surprised if Craig steps down after that.



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 09:07 PM

And having continuity with the MI6 staff and a villainous organisation actually helps the next actor to play Bond. Like when they kept Judi Dench as M for Daniel.



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:18 PM

Like when they kept Judi Dench as M for Daniel.

Currently beating my head in with a shoe...



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:19 PM

I don't think this is going to be the only film we have SPECTRE and Blofeld. I also don't think this is going to end with a "To Be Continued" text, but I wouldn't rule it out at this point. Spectre and Bond 25 are most likely going to be linked together, so it'll be like Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace, with the latter being a direct sequel to the former. If this carries over to Bond 26, I wouldn't be shocked if Craig doesn't come back, since 25 is supposed to be his last. I think this story arc will be over with the next film, with Bond 26 having a new actor and a fresh set of stories. Unless they decide to keep SPECTRE around some more, which again, I wouldn't rule out. Obviously they haven't forgotten about Quantum and Mr. White since he's in Spectre.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:16 AM

Barbara wants Craig to stay around like crazy, so I'm sure she's tried to prolong this era. 



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:31 AM

Barbara wants Craig to stay around like crazy, so I'm sure she's tried to prolong this era. 

 

She likes his portrayal - but what makes you say that?



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:35 AM

She's said many times she doesn't want to let him go. I think Michael G Wilson also said he wanted a seven film era for Craig, too. Whether that happens is another thing of course.


Edited by sharpshooter, 06 December 2014 - 12:36 AM.


#12 JCRendle

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:41 AM

As much as I love him as Bond, he's 46 - I think one more film after SPECTRE, but after that he'll be in his 50s and, no offense to people in their 50s - but Bond as a 00 agent would have either moved into an administrative role or retired - make him M to the next Bond character, but as 007 -  7 films is too many.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:58 AM

That's a fair point and chances are Bond 25 will be his last. However I think it depends more on how he looks at that age, rather than judging the age alone. 



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:09 AM

I am hoping that they can have the whole Spectre and Blofeld thing go more then one movie. I will be sad if it is only one movie.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:34 AM

Barbara wants Craig to stay around like crazy, so I'm sure she's tried to prolong this era.

 
She likes his portrayal - but what makes you say that?


Craig is like a co-producer for Barbara. His loss means more than just another Bond turning in his Walther.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:38 AM

That's a fair point and chances are Bond 25 will be his last. However I think it depends more on how he looks at that age, rather than judging the age alone.

It's true. I could see him maybe stretching to do a sixth picture, but a full seven? Probably not, especially if they keep a three-year hiatus between films.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:40 AM

Age doesn't really matter depending on the actor. Roger celebrated his 49th while filming TSWLM. It'll be solely on Craig and where the films are after Bond 25. 



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:41 AM

 

 

Barbara wants Craig to stay around like crazy, so I'm sure she's tried to prolong this era.

 
She likes his portrayal - but what makes you say that?

 


Craig is like a co-producer for Barbara. His loss means more than just another Bond turning in his Walther.

 

 

Would it be out of the question for another actor taking on the role, but them keeping on Craig as an actual Co-Producer/Consultant?



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:48 AM

I'd like to see Daniel tie with Sir Connery with six (official) films at most, then have him step down.

However, if Daniel does end with five that's fine too. He'll have left an incredible legacy with him and it will be interesting to see his successor.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 01:59 AM

 

 

 

Barbara wants Craig to stay around like crazy, so I'm sure she's tried to prolong this era.

 
She likes his portrayal - but what makes you say that?

 


Craig is like a co-producer for Barbara. His loss means more than just another Bond turning in his Walther.

 

 

Would it be out of the question for another actor taking on the role, but them keeping on Craig as an actual Co-Producer/Consultant?

 

 

Not out of the question, however I don't see that happening. I think Craig will have a big say in his successor, but to have him waiting in the wings would be too much of a distraction.

 

This is a bit of a niche reference - but to football (soccer) fans, I'd make the comparison of Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson. He stepped down after an incredibly successful stint, chose his replacement as manager, who then crashed and burned under the pressure of following him, while Ferguson remained as a club director. Sometimes the spectre of a prior success can loom too large and overshadow the new guy, and we don't want that with Bond #7.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 02:57 AM

I think it all has to do with how Craig looks for his age after Bond 25 and his shape physically. He does look 45-46 which is his age, but it really depends. I think Moore looked just fine in FYEO, but you could really see the age difference in films with OP and AVTAK significantly. Craig will likely be 49-50 by the time Bond 25 rolls out and if he looks good than I wouldn't a sixth film with him at all. Just as long as he looks good. I like Moore as Bond, but it was weird seeing him in AVTAK alongside Tanya Roberts.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 03:00 AM


This is a bit of a niche reference - but to football (soccer) fans, I'd make the comparison of Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson. He stepped down after an incredibly successful stint, chose his replacement as manager, who then crashed and burned under the pressure of following him, while Ferguson remained as a club director. Sometimes the spectre of a prior success can loom too large and overshadow the new guy, and we don't want that with Bond #7.

 

One reference that I absolutely love, btw! *bleep* Manchester United (any Man U fans here, don't take it personally ;)).

 

I agree with most that I think 6 would be the ideal number for Craig. I'd say 7 if it weren't for the MGM bankruptcy that cancelled 2010's Bond film (which we all knew wouldn't have been Skyfall). I think Bond 26 should be Craig as I firmly believe 3 films are necessary to fully tell the Blofeld saga.


it was weird seeing him in AVTAK alongside Tanya Roberts.

Ugh, that was awful. Then they nearly did it again in Die Another Day with a 50 year old Brosnan and a 22 year old Rosamund Pike.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 03:18 AM

it was weird seeing him in AVTAK alongside Tanya Roberts.

Ugh, that was awful. Then they nearly did it again in Die Another Day with a 50 year old Brosnan and a 22 year old Rosamund Pike.

Rosamund Pike was 22?! Wow, That's crazy. Seeing her in Jack Reacher and Gone Girl was like seeing her fresh off the set of DAD. Crazy. For Brosnan, at 50, he still looked good for his age which was crazy. Hell, at 62 in The November Man he looked good. He had some gray's but looked fine.

I agree with most that I think 6 would be the ideal number for Craig. I'd say 7 if it weren't for the MGM bankruptcy that cancelled 2010's Bond film (which we all knew wouldn't have been Skyfall). I think Bond 26 should be Craig as I firmly believe 3 films are necessary to fully tell the Blofeld saga.

There's pros and cons to the MGM bankruptcy.

 

PROS

  • We got Skyfall, which, for me, made up for QOS.
  • Perfectly timed with the 50th anniversary.
  • A great cast and a well developed script.
  • Carefully orchestrated and filmed well

CONS

  • Four... Long... Years...
  • Took time off and possibly another Bond film during Craig's era.
  • That's all I can think of.


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 03:51 AM

i can't see them bringing SPECTRE back to only do two films. People are already assuming Craig is gone after 2 more, but at this point it's all a mystery to me  :P



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 05:36 AM

Let Daniel Craig work as long as he can.

Age isn't a issued if he stays in shape.

Look at Sir Sean in Never Say Never Again.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 10:17 PM

Seems like Craig has all the leverage for any contract extensions and negotiations.  It might have made more sense to do the SPECTRE/Garden of Death stories and then Skyfall with its begininning somewhat similar to TMWTGG novel.  But with SF introducing key characters (new M, Q, Moneypenny), its timeline will be harder to dismiss than Goldfinger's or OHMSS's from the 60s tellings.  Skyfall could be both the end of one trilogy and the beginning of another.  It will be the one that doesn't belong with either the first two Craig Bonds nor the last two, yet ties them all together.  Time will tell but we're seeing a striking similarity to how the first four Connery films unfolded.



#27 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 10:22 PM

Let Daniel Craig work as long as he can.

Age isn't a issued if he stays in shape.

Look at Sir Sean in Never Say Never Again.

Look at Liam Neeson-arguably the # 1 action film star in the world...at 62(!). Craig is still a puppy by comparison,



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 10:35 PM

 

Let Daniel Craig work as long as he can.

Age isn't a issued if he stays in shape.

Look at Sir Sean in Never Say Never Again.

Look at Liam Neeson-arguably the # 1 action film star in the world...at 62(!). Craig is still a puppy by comparison,

 

I believe Neeson to be the #1 action star in the world. Action stars no longer rule the box office like in the old day. Franchises like Marvel, WB/DC, Transformers, etc rule box offices. Action stars and their box office results aren't consistent anymore.

 

Though I do give credit to Neeson in action films, even if they are a bit stale.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 10:46 PM

It all depends on how much they'd be willing to pay him and how he is feeling physically. His looks are not the issue, just his health and his desire to do the work.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 10:56 PM

As long as Daniel Craig is up for the part of Bond, can handle the phyiscal requirements for such a role, and is aestehtically pleasing to remain in Broccoli/Hollywood standards, Craig, ideally, should be good to go for a good long while still.