72 replies to this topic

[JazzyBond]

I too am a big fan of QOS. It's number 7 on my list. I love the things that have already been mentioned. 1) The scene with Yusef and Corrine and the subsequent dropping of the love knot is one of the most powerful scenes in the series 2) The finale at the hotel was fantastic. Can't understand why people dislike it. The cinematography was beautiful ( the lizard on the rock etc). I loved the scene where Bond is contemplating shooting Camile. You see the sleaziness of Medrano with the hostess. I love Greene's line about "waking up with your balls in your mouth". The whole leaving him in the desert with the can of oil was cold and classic. 3) The opera scenes were beyond beautiful and also tie into the ending. You can hear one of the Quantum members suggest they should focus on the Canadian. Subtle but impressive. That's the thing with QOS it didn't just spell everything out and dumb down the material to appease the masses. It was more of a thinking man and woman's movie.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I love Quantum, always have. I saw it with negative expectations because of the poor reviews and In walked out wondering what exactly did they not like about it. I do think the film suffers from a couple things:

really bad song
lame marketing(bond doing the visit with Mr white in suit + machine gun thing in the trailors was unneccessary). the posters were uninspired
I don't think they should have killed Mathis or Fields(because she should have been Moneypenny!).
I think the films running time should have allowed Bond to sleep with Camille(before the desert hotel assault).

Positives: I liked the story....very derrivitive of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
I loved the Opera house, Bilderberg-esque cabal meeting...best part of he film.
the action,
the overall forward momentum that makes it unique(most Bonds suffer from occasional entropy).
It has a Arnold's best score too.
The villian: Al Gore type as a shiester monopoly capitalist who doesn't really give a toss about the environment-good stuff.

[sharpshooter]

I think the PTS is fantastic.
I think the title song is lackluster.
I like Bond’s discussion with M before the chase.
The chase itself is alright, but doesn’t set my world on fire.
I quite enjoy the Haiti sequences, especially Bond fighting Slate.
I like the boat chase more than I did in the past.
The opera scene is brilliant.
Bond’s visit to Mathis is good, beautiful location.
The plane trip with Bond full of vodka is excellent.
The party – Mathis’ death and plane chase is a good flow on section.
Not the biggest freefall scene fan, but it doesn’t bother me as much as it did.
Bond walking through the desert, finding Fields and escaping is excellent.
Meeting Felix and escaping is also a nice little scene.
The finale in the desert with the Camille team-up is a little flat, but love Bond cradling Camille among the flames and dumping Greene in the desert.
Confrontation with Yusef is very good.

[Matt_13]

Pretty much how I view the film as well. I find that everything after the freefall itself and before the assault on the hotel works incredibly well. Very nice atmosphere, very cool, with some wonderful character interactions and Bond truly down and out for the first time ever. It's not a bad movie.

[Peckinpah1976]

I like QOS - can't agree with the original poster that Fosters direction is 'bad' - it's one of the best directed films of the series to date for me (as well as being one of the best technically over all); you could make the case that the first third of the film was cut too tightly but I suspect that was due to the incomplete nature of the script and the fact that they decided on a film of under two hours in length. Photography, music stuntwork, design and performances all first rate - the dialogue is far less risible than the norm and the whole thing is tonally more consistent - superior to CR (and anything else Campbell has directed since his TV days) in all of these respects which, Craig aside, I find vastly overrated.

Easily one of my favourite post-60's Bonds.

I think the climactic desert sequence is superb and not 'flat' at all - brilliantly staged, tense and with a real sense of danger about it. I also don't think the title song in a Bond movie is any kind of deal breaker - a genuinely good one is a bonus but otherwise, it's not a big deal IMO.

Edited by Peckinpah1976, 23 September 2012 - 07:53 AM.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

I don't hate QoS at all, in my opinion it is a solid Bond film with biggest fault being the too frantic pace.

[5thstreet]

I don't hate QoS at all, in my opinion it is a solid Bond film with biggest fault being the too frantic pace.

Correct, I agree. Great opening shot , but then; what's happening?

[Iceskater101]

I don't hate Quantum of Solace. I feel like there was a lot of hate because everyone expected it to be really good since Casino Royale was and people were a little dissappointed. That being said I like it. I mean I thought the showdown between Greene and Bond was really good at the exploding hotel. I love the car chase and the chase through that parade in what spain? That was really cool. I wasn't a big fan of the song but it wasn't bad either. I didn't really like Agent Fields that much and she didn't seem to have a big part in the film anyway. I don't think it was the worst bond movie ever, but it isn't my favorite but I will still watch it every once in a while.

[Mr. Arlington Beech]

I don't hate Quantum of Solace. I feel like there was a lot of hate because everyone expected it to be really good since Casino Royale was and people were a little dissappointed. That being said I like it. I mean I thought the showdown between Greene and Bond was really good at the exploding hotel. I love the car chase and the chase through that parade in what spain? That was really cool. I wasn't a big fan of the song but it wasn't bad either. I didn't really like Agent Fields that much and she didn't seem to have a big part in the film anyway. I don't think it was the worst bond movie ever, but it isn't my favorite but I will still watch it every once in a while.

I agree with you, the general opinion about QOS is that it was a deception (especially after the greatness of CR) and not something to hate as the worst Bond movie ever made. The argument claimed by several QOS lovers that it's a thinking man and woman's movie, it sounds for me preposterous and overall intellectually pretentious... actually that's the only thing that I could hate about it, that if you don´t love it, someone will argue that it's because it was such an art-house film that you just don't get it.

[Robinson]

I think QOS will be defended and derided just like Dalton's LTK is. Both followed successful entries where a new Bond actor was introduced. Both varied from the Bond formula and both were criticized for following trends (Bourne and Miami Vice) instead of being more "Bondian." Both also had disappointing movie posters and both were crippled by a writer's strike.

I enjoyed QOS when I first saw it. Admittedly I was already on a high as I just got married the night before I saw it in the theater. While I thought the film needed to breathe a bit more, especially during many of the action scenes. I was able to follow the story with no problem. The Tosca scene (David Arnold & Marc Forster at their best) as well as the scenes with Mathis and Leiter are the highlights of the film. The humor is there but it's very subtle. All in all, it's a nice bookend to Casino Royale and lets the audience know, at the end, that Bond is indeed BOND.

I liked it, though I can definitely see why many fans and moviegoers didn't.

[seawolfnyy]

I love Quantum, always have. I saw it with negative expectations because of the poor reviews and In walked out wondering what exactly did they not like about it. I do think the film suffers from a couple things:

really bad song
lame marketing(bond doing the visit with Mr white in suit + machine gun thing in the trailors was unneccessary). the posters were uninspired
I don't think they should have killed Mathis or Fields(because she should have been Moneypenny!).
I think the films running time should have allowed Bond to sleep with Camille(before the desert hotel assault).

Positives: I liked the story....very derrivitive of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
I loved the Opera house, Bilderberg-esque cabal meeting...best part of he film.
the action,
the overall forward momentum that makes it unique(most Bonds suffer from occasional entropy).
It has a Arnold's best score too.
The villian: Al Gore type as a shiester monopoly capitalist who doesn't really give a toss about the environment-good stuff.

I do agree with you about the chemistry building between Bond and Camille. There could've been something there that just wasn't explored. I still think the number 1 thing that could've helped Quantum be better is 15 more minutes of run time to flesh out the story. But I think a lot of people, especially non-Bond fans don't see the story for what it is, which is Bond battling his own desires with his duty and instead focus on other things. DC gives a stronger performance than in Casino Royale and he is more brutal. I've said it numerous times on this site too, I think QoS will age much better than people think and it's legacy may more resemble that of OHMSS as opposed to DAD. If only we could get a director's cut version....alas, they haven't done that yet for any film and I doubt QoS will be any different.

[00 Brosnan]

In my opinion, QoS is the worst Bond film since 1985's AVTAK.

Decent action film, terrible Bond film.

[sharpshooter]

I like Quantum of Solace, but I do get the impression it’s going to be viewed as an outsider, especially in terms of the Craig era. Not just in terms of tone and the complaints levelled against it, but being sandwiched between two long films, with it being one of the shortest. I maintain if QoS is as bad as things get for Craig, that's pretty good in my book.