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[Chief of SIS]

I am not here to confirm or deny that the recording that may or may not have been taken down may or may not have reemerged.

Figure that one out.

[The Shark]

It's a hydra. Cut off one head and another will grow back in its place.

Or not...

[Mr.Bond220]

just saw the IMAX trailer. WOW. This movie is legit

[JimmyBond]

I guess that's better than being fake.

[deth]

saw the Imax trailer (not in Imax though, as I'm in Germany). Looks okay. Bim Bam Smash. I enjoyed other Bond trailers more I think. Also the "Q" moment seems so self-conscious...

[JohnnyWalker]

Saw the IMAX trailer yesterday, I loved it. The action and the visuals over all looked great. I certainly liked what I saw of Severine, which is good. My favourite stuff by far was the interaction between Q and Bond, the way they referred to each others titles and smiled, simply perfect.

The only thing I didn't love was seeing youtube, sort of takes the fantasy out of it.

[PPK_19]

saw the Imax trailer (not in Imax though, as I'm in Germany). Looks okay. Bim Bam Smash. I enjoyed other Bond trailers more I think. Also the "Q" moment seems so self-conscious...

Indeed. They almost break the fourth wall in my opinion, it's so self-aware i was expecting Bond to look at the camera and wink, saying "Yes, Q's back!".

[Major Tallon]

saw the Imax trailer (not in Imax though, as I'm in Germany). Looks okay. Bim Bam Smash. I enjoyed other Bond trailers more I think. Also the "Q" moment seems so self-conscious...

Indeed. They almost break the fourth wall in my opinion, it's so self-aware i was expecting Bond to look at the camera and wink, saying "Yes, Q's back!".

Three bits in the trailer struck me as an effort to reestablish Craig's Bond as a character the classic 007: pulling down the cuff (a humorous expression of grace under fire), the explicit reference to Q (bringing a beloved character back), and the line (Bond's traditional self-introduction). For both fans and the general public, it's a way of saying that Craig has settled into the role. Not a bad thing.

[PPK_19]

saw the Imax trailer (not in Imax though, as I'm in Germany). Looks okay. Bim Bam Smash. I enjoyed other Bond trailers more I think. Also the "Q" moment seems so self-conscious...

Indeed. They almost break the fourth wall in my opinion, it's so self-aware i was expecting Bond to look at the camera and wink, saying "Yes, Q's back!".

Three bits in the trailer struck me as an effort to reestablish Craig's Bond as a character the classic 007: pulling down the cuff (a humorous expression of grace under fire), the explicit reference to Q (bringing a beloved character back), and the line (Bond's traditional self-introduction). For both fans and the general public, it's a way of saying that Craig has settled into the role. Not a bad thing.

Good point.

[DamnCoffee]

I think it's a fantastic trailer. There's so much Bond it's unreal. It honestly does feel like a fully established Bond now. It's like Mendes thought "Right, screw the origin. We've told that story, lets give the public total 100% Bond."

Some shots that stuck out for me...

• Bond adjusting his cuffs on the train. Absoloute classic.
• Bond smashing the motorbike into the bridge, and flying over the top of it onto the back of the moving train.
• Bonds wink to Mallory before he shoots.
• The line was handled brilliantly, as well. It seems more like Bond the man, rather than Bond the icon.

I was a little bit sceptical with Severine at first. She's very beautiful, but I didn't think she'd be that good concerning acting. The trailer seems to prove otherwise. "You made quite the bold entrance into our little... drama", sounds perfect. One thing that did excite me and it's mainly because of the fact nothing has been reported regarding it was the shot of Bond being escorted by 4 of Silvas men on his island and thrown through a door. Could prove a brilliant scene. But yes, a fantastic trailer. Cinematography looks mouth-watering. Cannot wait to see Skyfall on the big screen.

I wonder if the trailer tomorrow is just a cut down IMAX version (I don't really mind, it would be nice to see more footage in HD), or something entirely different. I remember someone on here (I think it was Zencat, not sure) saying that the MI6 Explosion played a part, so it's either a trailer with a different layout, or with a few new shots.

Edited by Mharkin, 29 July 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[MattofSteel]

I believe Zen also mentioned there's plenty of Silva in the trailer he saw, which certainly doesn't lineup with the IMAX footage.

[DamnCoffee]

Love that shot at the end of the IMAX Trailer, with Bond shooting a shotgun. RIGHT NEXT to the DB5. (You can see the door hanging open)

[Vauxhall]

I believe Zen also mentioned there's plenty of Silva in the trailer he saw, which certainly doesn't lineup with the IMAX footage.

Indeed, with dialogue I believe. Quite interested to hear Silva's voice for the first time. I imagine it will be something a bit unusual.

[MkB]

Gys, have you seen the official Olympic TV spot? There are some scenes from the IMAX trailer in it, methinks.
http://www.007.com/s...pic-us-tv-spot/

[S K Y F A L L]

I'm probably the only one who thinks the scene of Bond fixing his cuffs is a little corny.

[MkB]

Three bits in the trailer struck me as an effort to reestablish Craig's Bond as a character the classic 007: pulling down the cuff (a humorous expression of grace under fire), the explicit reference to Q (bringing a beloved character back), and the line (Bond's traditional self-introduction). For both fans and the general public, it's a way of saying that Craig has settled into the role. Not a bad thing.

Indeed Major.
Another bit struck me as a "50th anniversary" nod: isn't the shower sex scene intended to be reminiscent of the famous shot from Thunderball (if memory serves)?

[JimmyBond]

I'm probably the only one who thinks the scene of Bond fixing his cuffs is a little corny.

That bit is getting a strong, positive reaction all over the net. What about it is corny to you?

[tdalton]

I'm probably the only one who thinks the scene of Bond fixing his cuffs is a little corny.

You're not the only one.

[JimmyBond]

Why though?

Brosnan did stuff like that all the time (namely the tie straightening). I can't think of any off the top of my head, but both Connery and Moore adjusted themselves too.

The bit with Craig just screams Bond to me. I dunno, it just seems like if you take out the tropes (Craig's first two films) people complain, and when you add them back in, people still complain. How can they win?

[tdalton]

Why though?

I've never liked it when they've done that in the films. I've always found it ridiculously cheesy, but given the more realistic and gritty tone of the Craig films, I think it fits even less than it did before.

Brosnan did stuff like that all the time (namely the tie straightening). I can't think of any off the top of my head, but both Connery and Moore adjusted themselves too.

And I didn't care for it then, either. The tie-straightening in The World Is Not Enough is, alongside the final line of that film, one of the worst moments in the series.

The bit with Craig just screams Bond to me. I dunno, it just seems like if you take out the tropes (Craig's first two films) people complain, and when you add them back in, people still complain. How can they win?

All I can say is that they never heard any of the complaining about taking away the tropes from Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace. If anything, they left far too many in those two films, but I did love the fact that they were shying away from those things a bit, using them only if absolutely needed (the line at the end of CR, for example), and not feeling the need to inject every aspect of the checklist into the films. So, at least in my book, they were winning on that aspect with both of the last two films.

[DamnCoffee]

I totally agree Jimmy.

[JimmyBond]

I think it was well and good that they shyed away from some of the more cliched Bondian tropes in Craig's first two. But you can't go down that road forever. At some point you end up with films about an agent named James Bond, but would it really be a Bond film?

I've enjoyed the wild ride they've given us by showing us how James Bond became 007 and all that. But that's over and done with, as Q said from Never Say Never Again:

Good to see you Mr. Bond. Things've been awfully dull 'round here. I hope we're going to see some gratuitous sex and violence in this one!

Edited by JimmyBond, 29 July 2012 - 11:56 PM.

[tdalton]

but would it really be a Bond film?

Sure it would. All that's required for it to be a Bond film is it to feature an MI6 agent named James Bond.

If the films are just going to be checklists, then what's the point? I'd rather that they just set out to tell good, entertaining stories with the films rather than trying to shoehorn a story in around all of the checklist items and tropes.

[JimmyBond]

but would it really be a Bond film?

Sure it would. All that's required for it to be a Bond film is it to feature an MI6 agent named James Bond.

If the films are just going to be checklists, then what's the point? I'd rather that they just set out to tell good, entertaining stories with the films rather than trying to shoehorn a story in around all of the checklist items and tropes.

You make a good point in theory. I just think it's too early to start accusing Skyfall of doing that based on a sequence briefly glimpsed in the tv spot.

[tdalton]

but would it really be a Bond film?

Sure it would. All that's required for it to be a Bond film is it to feature an MI6 agent named James Bond.

If the films are just going to be checklists, then what's the point? I'd rather that they just set out to tell good, entertaining stories with the films rather than trying to shoehorn a story in around all of the checklist items and tropes.

You make a good point in theory. I just think it's too early to start accusing Skyfall of doing that based on a sequence briefly glimpsed in the tv spot.

I don't recall having accused Skyfall of that. All I've merely done is point out that I didn't like the cuff-straightening bit and then explained why I don't like such things appearing in the films.

Actually, I don't recall really discussing my impressions of Skyfall at all on these forums since we've started to find out anything of significance about the film.

[JimmyBond]

My apologies then. Talking about "check-list Bond" came off to me as you were implying Skyfall was doing that.

I'm still not really seeing how that bit doesn't work. To me it doesn't come off as silly at all. Definitely not silly in the way the Brosnan bits were. Yes it is a wild moment, but Craig's expression is what sells it for me. It's very Bondian, and it's very Craig Bond, at least to me. Doesn't seem out of character at all.

Come to think of it, it almost strikes a similar note as Bond bursting through the drywall in Casino Royale. Really cool, and really self assured.

[tdalton]

My apologies then. Talking about "check-list Bond" came off to me as you were implying Skyfall was doing that.

No apology necessary. Given my posting history around here it was a reasonable conclusion to reach.

I'm still not really seeing how that bit doesn't work. To me it doesn't come off as silly at all. Definitely not silly in the way the Brosnan bits were. Yes it is a wild moment, but Craig's expression is what sells it for me. It's very Bondian, and it's very Craig Bond, at least to me. Doesn't seem out of character at all.

Come to think of it, it almost strikes a similar note as Bond bursting through the drywall in Casino Royale. Really cool, and really self assured.

All I can really say on that point is that the drywall bit in Casino Royale is one of my least favorite moments of the film. As I think I've stated too many times to count, I could easily drop the first 45-minutes to an hour of Casino Royale and not really miss it.

[MattofSteel]

If the cuff-straightening moment, in all its iconic charm, isn't something a person's going for - I can't imagine why in the world they'd have been interested in the James Bond franchise in the first place.

[univex]

If the cuff-straightening moment, in all its iconic charm, isn't something a person's going for - I can't imagine why in the world they'd have been interested in the James Bond franchise in the first place.

Subscribed.

[JimmyBond]

I have a feeling the cuff-straigtening moment will go down with other iconic Bond imagery as the Tux under the wetsuit, the damn jump, and even the Union Flag parachute jump from Spy.