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#1 Xande007

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:08 PM

Hi There,

Any idea when are they gonna release a Bond Blu-Ray 3D set? That's the next step, am I right? hehehe

Thanks in advance!

#2 DamnCoffee

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:14 PM

I hope it won't happen personally. 3D is a pointless gimmick. I think we need to wait till the boxset is out the way, first. Before we think of future releases.

#3 sthgilyadgnivileht

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

I'm not convinced it will happen and don't see much call for 3D Bond either. I spose you could make a case for Lewis Gilbert's films to get 3D converted, but that's about it.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

I don't think 3D conversion is something EON would do for Bond. I think it's too mainstream blockbuster cash-in for EON to do this with Bond. There's no need for it and it wouldn't add anything to the existing or future films without it becoming a gimmick.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:35 PM

I think they will release a new Bond (Bond 24) maybe in 3D first to see how it does at the box-office before re-working the others. Personally i think its all a big hype.

#6 Matt_13

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:55 PM

Won't happen.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:40 PM

I don't think they will take the gamble with Bond 24 Steve. Lot of audiences of a very wide age for Bond and I think if they bring in 3D they would lose a lot of followers with the gimmicky effects.

(I hope not anyway...'Die Another Day's gunbarrel bullet is the only thing in the 22 current movies that would work in 3-D!)

#8 DamnCoffee

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:47 PM

I'm just really glad that George Lucas wasn't one of the co creations of the Bond franchise.

#9 Matt_13

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

IMAX will be the next medium the producers explore. 3D will never be an issue unless they go for a cartoon DAD style adventure (which also won't happen again).

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:29 AM

I still have yet to see The Phantom Menace in 3D, but I've heard mixed opinions on the quality of the 3D. It sounds like the upcoming conversion for Titanic is bound to be the highest quality yet, but I still don't see it being even close to the same quality as if it had actually been shot in 3D.

The quality issue and prohibitive cost are two perfectly good reasons why I don't see the Bond movies getting converted anytime soon.

As soon as those two factors become a non-issue, however, I think there's somewhat of a chance that it might happen... especially if the popularity of the Bond series wavers and the popularity of 3D content grows.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:50 AM

It would be pointless to do something like that. I'm happy that they're releasing them all on Blu-Ray, but a 3D home video release is just pointless. Watch Bond chase a bomb maker through a shanty town and construction town and shoot up a embasy in 3D? Watch Bond slide down a snowy hill in a cello case in 3D? Watch Bond jump on the heads of some reptiles in 3D? It would be stupid IMO.

I've only seen Avatar, Clash Of The Titans, Resident Evil: Afterlife, Saw 3D, Captain America, and Conan The Barbarian in 3D.
Avatar, Resident Evil: Afterlife, and Saw 3D were all great in 3D. I look forward to seeing The Amazing Spider-Man and Resident Evil: Retribution in 3D and then call it quits. 3D gives me headaches and my vision gets blurry. Not everyone can handle it, in facts it's getting to the point where everything is being done in 3D and its becoming pathetic.

A Bond film in 3D would take away those certain aspects that make a Bond film, lavish, extraordinary, entertaining, etc and pretty much a film using 3D for the money and to become an over-the-top film with the technology IMO.

Of course there's the arguement that you can just see it in 2D, but it doesn't change a thing. It's still the same film with the glasses off, just not being blurry or giving the viewer a headache. That's just my view on it.

I'd rather see Bond 24 shot in IMAX, then the dreadful 3D.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

Okay. TINTIN had fantastic 3D. HUGO, too.

But still - I don´t need 3D. I don´t want it. And I would love for James Cameron to stop pushing this on us. I get it, he wants attention as being A TRUE REVOLUTIONARY. But he would really only surprise me if he were to make a really good picture without any effects, just a great story, with layered characters and terrific dialogue.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:53 PM

I hear you on that SecretAgentFan.

Never saw Tintin or Hugo. Will probably rent Tintin, Hugo on the other hand didn't really seem to interest even though it's a film by Scorsese.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:33 AM

I agree we don't really need 3D, unless the movie majorly has a lot of special effects in it. It just like who would make the movies J. Edgar, The Artist, The Descendants, Money Ball, Contagion, Brooklyn's Finest and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy in 3D. There is just no need for those type movies to be in 3D at all.

I smell this happening in the future, Terminator 2: Judgment Day being in 3D and it might or might not be the curent 3D technology being used. IF NOT it will be the next stage in 3D technology that will be use for the movie.

I would think IF John Woo made Hard Target, Broken Arrow or Face/Off today he would still not want to use the 3D technology for the movies. Also If he was still working in Hollywood and made one his major action movies with lots of blood, shoot out and bullets, he still would not use 3D.

Edited by Syndicate, 21 February 2012 - 04:16 AM.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:21 AM

TIN TIN had a good depth, but IMAX can achieve the same thing and in many ways far superior. Brighter image, for example.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:36 AM

Exactly, and why ruin a Woo film like Hard Target and the classic Face/Off by re-releasing it in 3D? There's just no need for it. The audience are not the ones demanding it, the studio is, so they can make more money.

Starting with Men In Black 3D, all Sony 3D films are not only charging you for the ticket, 3D showing, but for the glasses. Where I'm at a 3D matinee is 8 bucks, glasses included, now they're gonna start charging for the glasses.

IMAX is the way to go, Personally I am excited to see Nolan's Dark Knight Rises in IMAX, and I strongly urge the producers to release Bond 24 or a future Bond film in IMAX. Although Quantum Of Solace isn't my favorite Bond Film, It sure would look amazing in IMAX, Casino Royale too. IMAX truely is the next big step, lately I'm seeing more and more films being shot or partially shot in the format, why cant Bond be in IMAX?

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 21 February 2012 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:11 AM

This could happen, but it just my guess IMAX and 3D used together in the future. They might want that the filmmakers or the studios, in some way they'll try to make it work together that is not a problem.

Edited by Syndicate, 21 February 2012 - 05:41 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:09 PM

I've seen about 5 3D films but only two have stood out for me that worked to enhance the atmosphere and the film world, not drag it down and cover up bad story telling etc, and they are 'Avatar' (still not as good as everyone says, but very good 3D experience) and 'A Christmas Carol' with Jim Carrey. Beautifully created.

Everything else is just popcorn entertainment with loud bangs, flashy effects and obviously shot 3D scenes for gimmicky effect. I know some come by that do work, but not many, and the fact now it's being used for everything is already cheapening the thrill of a decent 3D film.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:33 PM

Casino Royale would look incredible if they converted it to IMAX. That film is shot in such a way that it deserves to be viewed on the largest screen possible.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:00 PM

Casino Royale would look incredible if they converted it to IMAX. That film is shot in such a way that it deserves to be viewed on the largest screen possible.


I'm sure CR would be great on a big screen, but converting 35mm films to IMAX still leaves quite a bit to be desired... the much larger film size of IMAX really makes a difference! Do most IMAX theaters even use film that much anymore?

The fact, imo, remains that IMAX would be much better than 3D for the majority of the Bond films.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:36 AM

Casino Royale would look incredible if they converted it to IMAX. That film is shot in such a way that it deserves to be viewed on the largest screen possible.


I remember seeing it opening night and the experience was great. Watching it years later on DVD and I could only imagine what the chase scene in Madagascar would be like in IMAX.

There's many great franchies that have all been on the IMAX screen, except for Bond.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:09 AM

They probably didn't have the funds for it this time around due to the MGM bailout. We'll see how we do for revenue for this film. Bond 24 would be great, and the IMAX angle may further entice Mendes to do another, just for the chance to play around with the format like Brad Bird did for MI.

#23 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:22 AM

If all goes well, I wouldn't mind having Mendes back for Bond 24. As much as I'd like to see Matthew Vaughn direct, I'm open for round 2 with Mendes.
It seems like there's some special that Mendes has brought to the table for Skyfall. We'll find out sooner than later.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:51 AM

As much as I don't like the whole 3D gimmick, I think it's inevitable that one day EON will try to cash in on it and make a 3D Bond film, unless some how the trend completely falls by the wayside in the near future. That film, whether it's Bond 24 or Bond 25, will have to have a 3D release on DVD/Blu-ray when the time comes, but I'd like them to leave the 23 films we currently have, including SkyFall, alone in terms of a 3D re-release. They've re-released the Bond films so many times already that some fans already feel cheated by it a bit, but with each of those re-releases, it's generally been because of an upgrade in the technology (i.e. the advent of DVD and then, later, Blu-ray). Re-releasing and reconverting the entire existing catalogue into 3D would simply be there to cash in on a gimmick rather than cashing in on an upgrade in the primary technology that people view their films with or by cashing in on some new bonus features that get added to some of these re-releases.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

I think EON have been reading this thread. :P

http://www.digitalsp...ax-cinemas.html

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:05 PM

I don't agree with Bond being shot in 3d EVER, unless it continues like tdalton said. Although, I think it would be interesting to see a Bond film a 3d. I don't want it, but I think it would just be interesting to see for maybe a couple of minutes. Then it wouldn't be interesting anymore.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:07 AM

The conversion to 3D requires access to certain resources that simply aren't there relative to the Bond franchise; that is, you can convert Titanic because it is a comparatively recent product and the raw 70mm stock is there along with all the FX files* but you can't convert, say, The Wizard of Oz because all that exists are answer prints. I doubt there's enough material available to convert anything prior to GE (certainly nothing prior to DAF, what with EON maintaining that all outtakes, etc. up to that point were destroyed) and converting only part of the library would seem a little awkward from a marketing standpoint. I agree, though, that future Bonds will almost certainly be in 3D based solely on the rationale of box office revenue.

Much of this is true relative to IMAX as well: you have to have ultra high-resolution negatives (or, given the move to digital, files) as a base or you're just taking a standard film and enlarging way past the level it was meant to tolerate.

*Done correctly, CGI sequences represent a monumental 3D challenge, not simply doubling the computing time (which can be overnight for a few frames) but requiring considerable work to layer elements and separate components like smoke, fire, etc.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:50 AM

Converting films to 3D is pointless because you cannot alter the existing compositions and create 3D interactions. I'd suggest tracking down the LALD and MR viewmasters instead.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:07 AM

I'd suggest tracking down the LALD and MR viewmasters instead.


No idea if you're serious but that's a great response either way ... :)

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:04 PM

I doubt there's enough material available to convert anything prior to GE (certainly nothing prior to DAF, what with EON maintaining that all outtakes, etc. up to that point were destroyed)


Good to know!




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