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[Judo chop]

Discreetly dangerous, I'd call him. Very discreetly, very dangerous.

Until one has to fight him, that is, and discreet goes the way of the dodo bird.

Greene is a top-notch Bond villain, perfectly suited for this film and its intent, and Amalric made perfect use of his time in the role!

Hip-hip-hooray!!!

[Daddy Bond]

Discreetly dangerous, I'd call him. Very discreetly, very dangerous.

Until one has to fight him, that is, and discreet goes the way of the dodo bird.

Greene is a top-notch Bond villain, perfectly suited for this film and its intent, and Amalric made perfect use of his time in the role!

Hip-hip-hooray!!!

Yeah, he did pretty okay against Bond (for a bit), didn't he?

[Judo chop]

Yeah, he did pretty okay against Bond (for a bit), didn't he?

Their fight together was perfectly (this time meaning ‘most wisely’) executed, Daddy-o.

Often, it seems, in action films, the head bad guy isn’t all that physically imposing. Yet when the good guy has fought his way through all the henchman, filmmakers feel the need to make the grand finale just as ‘grand’ as all the hoopla that had come before. And so suddenly our hero, who kicked all over the place, is having trouble knocking down the last pin.

Watch this move now… I’m about to cite ROAD HOUSE.

Swayze rips the throat out of the super-duper henchman, sails across the moat, takes out a number of other dudes in sneaky Rambo fashion, and then commences with a 10-minute dukaroo with that tired old man, who shouldn’t be more trouble than a bowl of Ramen soup.

Amalric made good on his promise that Greene would be a no-good, manically sloppy fighter. He’s runtish and weak and throwing rules to the wind is his only chance. It’s one of the best (‘wisest’) choreographed fights in Bond. Sensible.

Exciting and new..

Come a-boooard…

We’re ex-pect-ing yooooou…

[Daddy Bond]

I am glad that the fight didn't last TOO long (as good as it was), because, after all, Bond is Bond, and Greene, despite fighting like a cornered mutt HAD to lose to the professional Bond.

[Judo chop]

I am glad that the fight didn't last TOO long (as good as it was), because, after all, Bond is Bond, and Greene, despite fighting like a cornered mutt HAD to lose to the professional Bond.

Absolutely. I thought the length of the sequence and the choreography were in perfect harmony. Normally, it wouldn’t even be a fight. But given the situation, Greene has Bond off balance. He attacks suddenly and wildly, and the environment presents its own challenges. Until he can get a second’s space to regroup, Bond can only defend. I think, aside from that surprise swinging platform, Bond was never thinking he was losing. Probably just biding his time, defending, until an opportunity to attack came around.

The fight makes perfect sense to me. And it’s cool. Just the idea… a chaotic thrasher fighter against a seasoned pro.

Plus… who said it? MattofSteel, maybe?... the scene looks like Hell. Like an artist might depict Hell.

I love it.

[Turn]

If this guy didn't like QoS, he didn't like it.

I don't agree about the other Indy films, but I don't know how anybody could count Crystal Skull as anything other than a big disappointment.

Why would others have to share your taste or opinion in the film? For years, I have criticized others for not harboring the same opinion as myself on certain films. I'm gradually beginning to realize that it's a waste of time in looking down my nose at someone who does not share my taste in movies. Film and other forms of art are subjective, not some fact that is packaged and sealed.

On whether or not this guy liked QoS or not, he names it biggest disappointment of the year and doesn't explain why. To not do so undermines his point in my view. This is a James Bond Web site. We discuss things like that.

I don't expect anyone to share my opinion, but based on many discussions here on CBn and other places, I am certainly not alone in my views on Crystal Skull. I don't count that as looking down my nose, merely rolling my eyes and in doing so trying to create discussion as one who enjoyed QoS very much and personally finds it a refreshing, non-safe Bond film when Crystal Skull took the safe road and did nothing to add to the legacy of the previous trilogy.

If discussing films and views bother you, why are you on a site devoted to such?

I am glad that the fight didn't last TOO long (as good as it was), because, after all, Bond is Bond, and Greene, despite fighting like a cornered mutt HAD to lose to the professional Bond.

Absolutely. I thought the length of the sequence and the choreography were in perfect harmony. Normally, it wouldn’t even be a fight. But given the situation, Greene has Bond off balance. He attacks suddenly and wildly, and the environment presents its own challenges. Until he can get a second’s space to regroup, Bond can only defend. I think, aside from that surprise swinging platform, Bond was never thinking he was losing. Probably just biding his time, defending, until an opportunity to attack came around.

The fight makes perfect sense to me. And it’s cool. Just the idea… a chaotic thrasher fighter against a seasoned pro.

Plus… who said it? MattofSteel, maybe?... the scene looks like Hell. Like an artist might depict Hell.

I love it.

It wouldn't have felt right if Bond had just done away with Greene in some spectacular fashion. He wasn't that evil that you wanted to see him come to that type of end, not that I didn't want to see him go down, but he wasn't Blofeld or somebody who dripped evil.

That's where I really like what happened when he and Bond met again in the desert, the cold way Bond treated him and hearing of his off-screen demise. It's another item that sets QoS apart from so many of the other films in the series.

[Eurospy]

Couldn't state these points better myself.

Nice hell comparison for the finale - hadn't noticed that statement before I think. And it ran the perfect length, not too much nor too little.

I suspect that a person cornered like that can be incredibly dangerous, even up against a professional. Someone running on sheer adrenaline is faster, a bit stronger, and tends to forget actual pain. Like Alamric said in some interview, he catches Bond by surprise by not being able to fight. Not to mention the burning surroundings and the way theyplay into the climax.

Indy, such a disappointment. Why is David Koepp hired over and over again to write adaptations? In this case, he adapted the scripts that preceeded him, and turned into a mere patchwork.

It was The Phantom Menace allover again. Darabont's City of the Gods draft was far and clearly superior to that uneven tapestry.

Topic-wise, I simply CANNOT believe the enormous amount of "professional" critics (paid ones that is) that regurgitate such incredibly low-level words. One would think that they should properly justify their likes or dislikes, and write their reviews with a lot more care.

Edited by Eurospy, 14 January 2009 - 08:27 AM.

[Safari Suit]

Wall E - Fantastic and endearing film except for the ridiculous and over-the-top environmental/no fat people message. (Oh, yeah, what about that guy in the UK who (along with his wife) was just refused the adoption of a boy because the man weighed to much. Whatever!)

It seems like a lot of people have had a problem with the moral in Wall E. Don't really see the problem myself. That said I thought the second half of the film was merely OK.

[dee-bee-five]

It would help to get your facts correct, non?

To spread lies like that is sickeningly vile.

Well, let's pick one, shall we? Am I incorrect or dishonest?

In this case, the former. I thought the guy died, instead (Google tells me) he was seriously injured. I apologize for the error.

It's a pet peeve of mine, however, when people are called liars, or even call themselves liars, for making an incorrect statement when they didn't know it was incorrect. By definition, one has to know the truth in order to lie.

Perhaps, then, checking one's facts properly before making a bold assertion might be a wise policy to adopt? That way, one can't be accused of lying. Just a thought...

[double o ego]

Agree with most of it. Even the worst Bond films have had at least one memorable action scene in them. QOS is a postmodern Bond film in that it is all shape and no substance. The fact that so many forum members have heralded it as the best in the series, etc, speak of how little the look for in movies.
However, I'll always be pissed about critics liking Indy better just because they're sacred cows. Other than Raiders, the Indiana Jones films have been one disappointment after another. To say that Skull wasn't as bad as people said is incredibly cheeky. Compared to it, QOS stands as really good film. I knew IJ4 was going to be bad even before I saw it, but I thought it'd be as bad as Temple of Doom, never this bad.
I don't recall that many people bashing TWINE when it first came out, so QOS champions out there beware. In a few years' time you won't be so cocky about it, rather than that you'll feel a little embarrassed when somebody mentions what a mediocre film it was and you don't have a strong counterargument.

Eh? TOD wasn't THAT bad. Sure, it wasn't as good as Raiders and imo I can't decide which is better, Raiders or Last crusade. KOTCS was an entertaining movie, I couldn't care less about the whole nuking the fridge thing but I'll concede that as an indy movie, almost 2 decades in the making, we should have gotten something a lot better, especially from the meastro that allegedly can't do no wrong, Spielberg.

As for QoS, I loved it but the film is horrendously flawed. The action isn't as clear as it should be, the choppy editing almost makes the movie pointless to watch and another thing, I wish certain people, especially M would stop refering to Bond as, Bond. Call him by his bloody code name, that's why he has one. How many times did Bernerd Lee refer to 007 as, Bond. The whole saying of Bond's name sounded to much and I hate to say it, but like all those CIA clowns clamoring after Bourne.

[Judo chop]

I wish certain people, especially M would stop refering to Bond as, Bond. Call him by his bloody code name, that's why he has one. How many times did Bernerd Lee refer to 007 as, Bond.

I agree. I hadn't realized it until now, but I agree. Too much "Bonding". Not enough "Oh'ing".

Good point Ego.

[Harmsway]

It seems like a lot of people have had a problem with the moral in Wall E. Don't really see the problem myself. That said I thought the second half of the film was merely OK.

I didn't have a problem with the moral, in and of itself, but I did think it was rather unimaginatively handled.

[Donovan Mayne-Nicholls]

Maybe the stunt team did some awesome stuff on this film, but unless I see it in a behind-the-scenes video (hopefully shot from a tripod) I'll never know.

Some time ago Ive read an interview with 1 lithuanian stuntman who worked on Qos and Bou*****rne films and he was quite sad about Qos sayng that in his other film (noooo Im not going to start comparing these again!) the action was amazing and their waork paid off onscreen but with Qos the editing and filming ruined all they achieved....
I dont know if it's true or not but everytime there's a talk about action in Qis I start thinking about what could have been if...

I share the suspicion. Panama 2nd unit wasn't shot by that hack Bradley but good ole Simon Crane and the boat chase is probably the worst stuff in the film. Bourne 2 was ruined by the very same Rick Pearson.

[JimmyBond]

I love the boat chase myself. But hey, that's just me.

[MajorB]

Eh? TOD wasn't THAT bad. Sure, it wasn't as good as Raiders and imo I can't decide which is better, Raiders or Last crusade. KOTCS was an entertaining movie, I couldn't care less about the whole nuking the fridge thing but I'll concede that as an indy movie, almost 2 decades in the making, we should have gotten something a lot better, especially from the meastro that allegedly can't do no wrong, Spielberg.

Spielberg is a superb craftsman, but he isn't always the best judge of scripts, and you seldom get a really good movie from a mediocre script. (A rare example that pops into my head is the original Planet of the Apes--a fairly hokey, implausible script that was raised several notches by superb direction, cinematography, editing, and casting.)