Having seen all Bond movies (starting in my youth with For Your Eyes Only) I only once in a while had the feeling to be treated as a sensible person: While watching From Russia With Love, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, Licence To Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies. The rest of the Bond films left me behind saying to myself: "They are pulling on my leg." Such a waste of time.
This has changed with Casino Royale and even more with Quantum of Solace. Extraordinary action, ambitious plot, very good acting, a new fresh look, complete absence of dandyism and cynicism, and honest emotions. That's more than anyone could have expected.
I hope the producers, writers, actors and directors manage to follow this path - leave out Q and Moneypenny and the gadgets, keep the stories down to earth, further explore Bond's personality. Thrilling prospects.
My suggestions for director of Bond 23? Christopher Nolan, Bryan Singer, maybe David Fincher. Or - why not a female director - Kathryn Bigelow...
Good new times
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Dalton87
, Nov 21 2008 09:28 PM
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 09:45 PM
Yes, yes, yes!
EON have finally made a commitment to adult entertainment, rather than family entertainment (where the series did go off the rails for me). There are so many heated threads at the moment but my own perception is that the majority of those unfulfilled with QoS are for stylistic reasons (action scenes, gunbarrel etc) than the more serious, adult, tone of the films.
And (TWINE plug coming up) I think it was work started back with TWINE (for all it's faults, it wasn't just mad-nuke-terrorist on the loose -it did attempt to layer things a little), that has gathered momentum through the last two films.
And I credit Babs and MW, I really do. Whatever their motivations (comparisons with other franchises, getting the rights to CR etc) they still went and did it. The easy thing to do would have been to go back.
EON have finally made a commitment to adult entertainment, rather than family entertainment (where the series did go off the rails for me). There are so many heated threads at the moment but my own perception is that the majority of those unfulfilled with QoS are for stylistic reasons (action scenes, gunbarrel etc) than the more serious, adult, tone of the films.
And (TWINE plug coming up) I think it was work started back with TWINE (for all it's faults, it wasn't just mad-nuke-terrorist on the loose -it did attempt to layer things a little), that has gathered momentum through the last two films.
And I credit Babs and MW, I really do. Whatever their motivations (comparisons with other franchises, getting the rights to CR etc) they still went and did it. The easy thing to do would have been to go back.
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ImTheMoneypenny
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 01:04 AM
Welcome aboard Dalton87! Glad you enjoyed the movie! I agree this is a movie that is both enjoyable, ambitious, and treats the audience as intelligent viewers. I hope they do keep it up.
plankattack, I agree with you about TWINE, however, I didn't enjoy it as I hoped that I would. I saw it had such potential, but they pulled back, which is what frustrated me. I'm not sure EON was ready, or perhaps they felt the audience wasn't ready, to kick over the traces and go for it like they did with CR. But that's for another thread.
plankattack, I agree with you about TWINE, however, I didn't enjoy it as I hoped that I would. I saw it had such potential, but they pulled back, which is what frustrated me. I'm not sure EON was ready, or perhaps they felt the audience wasn't ready, to kick over the traces and go for it like they did with CR. But that's for another thread.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 05:45 AM
I agree. Good acting, solid and simple plot, and good character development for Bond.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 07:30 AM
Indeed. Forster was the right director for this film - Campbell did enough of a Valentine's job with CR, QOS feels like the promise of that film fulfilled. It's adult like say GF was in '64, adult for its time, which is appropriate for Bond IMO. Fleming didn't write no family-thrillers, he wrote thrillers, end stop. Nice to see EON embracing that paradigm after chasing BO for so long. A good story well told is a marked improvement for the series IMO: nothing miscues in QOS, there are no wrong notes, just solid Bond. Amazing. 