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Some Quantum of Solace questions.


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#31 DaveBond21

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 11:46 PM

1)Greene was found dead in the desert with his stomach full of oil and 2 bullets in his head.

I assume that someone in Quantum caught up to him, made him drink the oil before shooting him in the head, for his failure. Would this be right?


1) Greene walked through the desert until the intense thirst got to him, at which point he drank some of the oil out of utter desperation. He kept going, but in the end it wasn't dehydration that killed him - it was Quantum catching up to him.



Indeed. And Bond predicts his fate when he drops him off. A suitably bad way to die, for Greene. He deserved it. He knew that Quantum would be after him, once he'd blabbed to Bond, and the most important thing to the organisation is knowing who to trust.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 07:19 AM

Regarding continuity, and not that it matters much, but I think they forgot about Greene's foot injury sometime during filming....his feet looked fine when Bond dumps him in the desert.

Wasn't he limping off into the sunset when Bond caught him to give him a dose of motor oil?


Several questions here:
1)Greene was found dead in the desert with his stomach full of oil and 2 bullets in his head.

I assume that someone in Quantum caught up to him, made him drink the oil before shooting him in the head, for his failure. Would this be right?

2) What made the hotel start blowing up initially and why did it continue to do so? Was it the those hydrogen tanks? Also why were there flammable hydrogen(?) tanks in each room?


1) Greene walked through the desert until the intense thirst got to him, at which point he drank some of the oil out of utter desperation. He kept going, but in the end it wasn't dehydration that killed him - it was Quantum catching up to him.

2) Yes. And the tanks weren't in the rooms, exactly, they were inside the walls, attached to the recharging cells on the outside.


Why were these tanks attached to recharging cells? What are these recharging cells?
Something to do with solar power?

Sorry i thought it was a hotel in the desert. Is it something else?

Oh and why did Bond dump Mathis' body in the bin? Was this played for laughs?

#33 DamnCoffee

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:48 AM

Here are a few more questions that have bothered me upon further viewing.

How does Bond know who Greene is? During the boat chase?

Camille: Are You One of Greene's?
Bond: DOMINIC GREENE!?

It's like Bond has heard of him before, and that he's well known to him. But he then goes and asks for a name check. Bond really doesn't meet Greene until the Tosca.


And...

Is Bond in Bregenz when M calls him? Because she says "You killed a man in Bregenz", it sounds as if he's somewhere else and not in Bregenz. If he was, she would just probably say "You killed a man" or ""You killed a man at the Tosca!".

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:09 PM

Here are a few more questions that have bothered me upon further viewing.

How does Bond know who Greene is? During the boat chase?

Camille: Are You One of Greene's?
Bond: DOMINIC GREENE!?

It's like Bond has heard of him before, and that he's well known to him. But he then goes and asks for a name check. Bond really doesn't meet Greene until the Tosca.

Bond has many clues as to Greene's identity before they ever meet in person:

1. He knows that Slate is tied to Mitchell and Le Chiffre via the tagged bills, which is why he goes to Haiti. After he arrives and kills Slate, he discovers that Slate was working for someone in a plan to kill Camille, so he connects the dots. When he meets Camille, his radar is already on to find out who that is, and what her connection is.

2. Camille stops him out on the street, where he sees "Greene Planet" on the side panels of her car. She asks him if Dominic gave him any trouble. He says no. On opening the briefcase, it becomes very clear that someone wants Camille dead. Camille shoots at him, and he gets out of her car.

3. Bond follows Camille to the docks. He hands his "business card" to the guard at the gate, who promptly hands it over to Elvis, who then calls the number on the card. "Greene Planet" immediately comes up on Bond's cellphone, and he is able to begin tracking Greene. So when Bond grabs Camille on the boat, he already has enough information to grill her on who she's working for, whether it's Dominic Greene or someone else, etc.

And...

Is Bond in Bregenz when M calls him? Because she says "You killed a man in Bregenz", it sounds as if he's somewhere else and not in Bregenz. If he was, she would just probably say "You killed a man" or ""You killed a man at the Tosca!".

I'm not sure I get that complaint. They've traced his location to Bregenz, and so of course that's what M would say. She would be specific about the location because she has information that Bond has killed other men in other locations, as well. Also, she intends to make it clear that this particular man was guarding Haines and so worked for the government, so there will be no confusion for Bond as to which man she's talking about (though apparently M doesn't know about the man in the washroom, etc.). I can't see her dithering on about the opera in all of that.

Edited by byline, 29 November 2008 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:25 PM

Regarding continuity, and not that it matters much, but I think they forgot about Greene's foot injury sometime during filming....his feet looked fine when Bond dumps him in the desert.

Wasn't he limping off into the sunset when Bond caught him to give him a dose of motor oil?


Several questions here:
1)Greene was found dead in the desert with his stomach full of oil and 2 bullets in his head.

I assume that someone in Quantum caught up to him, made him drink the oil before shooting him in the head, for his failure. Would this be right?

2) What made the hotel start blowing up initially and why did it continue to do so? Was it the those hydrogen tanks? Also why were there flammable hydrogen(?) tanks in each room?


1) Greene walked through the desert until the intense thirst got to him, at which point he drank some of the oil out of utter desperation. He kept going, but in the end it wasn't dehydration that killed him - it was Quantum catching up to him.

2) Yes. And the tanks weren't in the rooms, exactly, they were inside the walls, attached to the recharging cells on the outside.


Why were these tanks attached to recharging cells? What are these recharging cells?
Something to do with solar power?

Sorry i thought it was a hotel in the desert. Is it something else?

Oh and why did Bond dump Mathis' body in the bin? Was this played for laughs?


Google Hydrogen Fuel Cells – science isn't my strongest suit, but remember Greene Planet is posing as an environmentally friendly organisation

Hotels need power too.

There's already a thread regarding the hiding of Mathis' body. But...laughs?!

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:54 PM

Regarding continuity, and not that it matters much, but I think they forgot about Greene's foot injury sometime during filming....his feet looked fine when Bond dumps him in the desert.

Wasn't he limping off into the sunset when Bond caught him to give him a dose of motor oil?

Yes, Greene was limping off into the sunset when Bond and Camille spotted him after escaping from the burning hotel. And then when Bond picks him up, puts him in the trunk (just as a badly beaten Mathis was placed in his trunk . . . and just as he placed Mr. White in his trunk at the beginning of the film) and then dumps him out in the middle of the desert, Greene still isn't moving too well then, either. He's not hobbling the way he was earlier, but then again, he's not trying to move as quickly. He does have a limp and appears to be leaning in such a way as to favor his uninjured foot. So I'd say that the continuity held through.

Edited by byline, 29 November 2008 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:44 AM

Another Question....


At the end of the movie, Bond says to M... "Congratulations, you were right." and M replies with, "About what?" and Bond concludes, "About Vesper". What was M right about? What did she say to Bond about her? The only thing I can think of is at the end of Casino Royale where she says, "She made a deal to spare your life in exhange for the money..", but I thought Bond was already aware of that.


I assume, (because you're right, she never told him more than that) M told Bond that Vesper loved him and gave her life in order to save him, her 'betrayal' was for love.

Then he was aware of that when she left Mr. White's number.

You may also want to consider when she told about trust, 'when you can tell your friends from your enemies it's time to go' he never left because he inside trusted Vesper.


Indeed. When Bond discovers Yusuf and sees he has moved onto someone else to trick (the Canadian agent) he discovers that Vesper really did love him and wasn't betraying him once she knew him better. Bond said "the bitch is dead" at the end of CR. But now he knows that she wasn't a bitch, she really loved him.

He finds solace in this fact. But he wanted to prove it first.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:59 AM

I only have one real question: How the hell did Greene outrun Bond out of the building and (nearly) halfway into the desert with a slashed-open foot? B)

Also, along with the above, how did he manage to escape from a burning building with no possible exits accessible for a man with a wounded foot when Bond hadn't even blown the wall open yet? :tdown:

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:55 PM

I only have one real question: How the hell did Greene outrun Bond out of the building and (nearly) halfway into the desert with a slashed-open foot? B)

Also, along with the above, how did he manage to escape from a burning building with no possible exits accessible for a man with a wounded foot when Bond hadn't even blown the wall open yet? :tdown:

Well, it's obviously open to interpretation, but I didn't get the sense that Greene really "outran" Bond. Out-hobbled him, I suppose. My sense was that Greene found a way out (as did the waitress) while Bond was finding his way over to Camille. We don't know how or why, but during that time Greene was able to escape. I don't think he really got very far during that time; I think the shot is a bit of an illusion, but he doesn't seem to be that far away from the hotel when Bond spots him.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 06:11 PM

It took time for Bond to find Camille and save the both of them. If Bond had no one to 'save', he would have "outrun" Greene, I imagine.