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#1 Mister Asterix

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:21 PM

SPOILERS



I’m going to start this review talking about Agent Fields, as wonderfully played by Gemma Arterton, because I think she just may be the perfect modern Bond Girl and her part is in a way a microcosm of Quantum of Solace. And I’m sure other reviews have covered the majority of the rest of the film.

The comparison’s to Jill Masterson are obvious, her short but sweet time in Bond’s world ended in death naked in Bond’s bed coated in (black) gold. But let’s also compare her to Mary Goodnight, Vesper Lynd, and Lee Cullen.

Starting with Lee Cullen, because I know most of you will be asking, ‘Who?’. Lee Cullen was the part Vanessa Williams played in the movie Eraser with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ve said before in these forums that Lee is what the template for the modern Bond girl should be; strong, confident, alluring, very capable, smart. A woman who is more than able to take care of herself; that is until she enters Bond’s — or in Lee’s case, Arnold’s — world. Once in Bond’s/Arnold’s world that is when she needs saving. Not because of any incompetence on her part, but because no real world person can be prepared when suddenly tossed in to this world.

The Mary Goodnight comparison is pretty much straight forward. I’ve said from the when I first heard details of Fields that she reminded me of a non-ditzy Mary Goodnight, and that’s what she turned out to be. I personally have always loved Mary Goodnight; she’s a fun, spunky lesser agent who M assigns to Bond who because of her schoolgirl confidence gets herself in to prickly situation that she needs to Bond to save her from.

Of course, both of those examples were saved. In Fields’ case, not so much. In fact, not at all. Bond doesn’t even realise that this girl needs saving. Instead he is off on his single minded mission to bring down the evil organisation Quantum. This is where the Vesper comparison comes in. I think Fields’ death shapes the future of this raw version of James Bond nearly as much as the death of Vesper.

The tragedy of Fields does not hit home until M points out that she was essentially a paper pusher. Until then to us — and presumably to Bond — Fields is another British spy, who, when she took on Elvis, knew what she was doing. Instead, we find out she was a strong, confident woman who has no idea that this little trick of tripping the nerdy looking fellow — in probably a similar way to how she stopped an overbearing college boy from pestering one of her girlfriends back at university — would quickly lead to her death.

Bond is so remorseful that he is compelled to return to M, after his escape from her men, to point out her bravery knowing it would only highlight his massive failure where this girl was concerned.

As far as Quantum of Solace goes, Fields is just part of this continuing story of James Bond. Where Casino Royale was ‘How James Bond became James Bond™’, Quantum of Solace was the story of how this raw James Bond™ is shaped into the spy we see in, say, The Living Daylights.

The Fields story also encompasses the film in that, as the audience, we are playing catch up to the super high pace of the film. This is a good thing.

The pacing of this adventure redefine the term ‘breakneck’. I’m guessing (I won’t presume to know) that this accounts for some of the lesser-ranked reviews that cited ‘sloppy editing’ or some other similar phase. The editing was not sloppy, it was deliberate and daring you to keep up, and if you couldn’t it wasn’t afraid to toss you aside. It certainly wasn’t going to slow down and wait for you.

I know I’ll be sorry to bring up the word ‘Bourne’, but while Bourne comparisons are inevitable, I think this film took what Bourne did for action sequences and went the next step beyond. The ‘Shaky-Cam™’ is enhanced with sweeping camera moves.

It’s not just the action that picks up the pacing. The non-action scenes are quick and deliberate as well, they make the point and move on.

So how good was it?

In my review of Casino Royale I stated that I had always come out of the theatre thinking the latest Bond film was the greatest Bond film, but that Casino Royale was different. And that still holds true. I still think Casino Royale is better than all of the other Bond films — including Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace is a close second though, and to be honest I’d’ve put it just in the top five after the first viewing, the second viewing however brought it up to just below Casino Royale.

Quantum of Solace however does top Casino Royale on a lot of fronts. Most prominently is the art of Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace is absolutely stunningly beautiful. The scenery, the sets, the cinematography, the lighting, the atmosphere, the typography*, the music; all the most beautiful of the series. The relationship between Dench’s M and Bond also the best of the series. Classic stuff, where you can see that M is trying to reign in Bond while knowing his way will get the job done.

Really the only place that Quantum of Solace falls short of Casino Royale is in the emotionality. Even there Quantum of Solace easily tops all others in the series.

One critique I have heard about this film that I just can’t grasp is ‘It’s just not Bond.’ I really can’t think of one scene that didn’t seem Bond to me. Perhaps Bond’s final treatment of Mathis, but even there, while surprising, didn’t feel completely out of character for this Bond (though perhaps just moving him out of the road and leaning him against the fence would’ve been better.) The best ‘Bondian’ in the hotel escaping from M’s men, particularly when he walked out on the ledge to pass the men unseen. Pure ConneryBond there. The oil can at the film’s end is a better version of Sanchez’s demise in Licence to Kill. Bond ramming the General’s boat is straight from the best of BrosnanBond. And most welcome was Mathis’ ‘Villains and Heroes’ speech which had been the only sad omission of the film Casino Royale from the book.

In total I gave Quantum of Solace a very strong four out of five stars on the first viewing and and a solid five after a repeat viewing. I recommend highly repeat viewings.

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* save the punctuation sins of the subtitles. That’s a foot mark (or an inch mark depending on your part of the world) not an apostrophe. And ellipses have three dots not four.


#2 Loomis

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:25 PM

Good stuff, dude.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:26 PM

Great read. :(

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:32 PM

Excellent review. I do like that he stuck up for Fields.


I gotta see this again...maybe tommorow.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:33 PM

Agree on all points. Can't wait for my second viewing!

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:39 PM

Good stuff, Mr *. :(

I think Quantum will make everyone re-evaluate Connery. I've been seeing Dr No and From Russia With Love in recent days amid a few viewings of Quantum.

Connery, who I grew up watching along with Moore, is now merely the First Bond actor. That's it. He didn't hit his stride until Goldfinger/Thunderball and then it was straight down hill.

Craig crushes him. Totally. Craig is a tour de force in this bullet of a film. There's no contest. Watch DN/FRWL and CR/Q0S 'side by side' and judge for yourself.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:45 PM

Great review, mate, and thanks for the mention. :(

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:50 PM

Bravo, Mister Asterix! Couldn't agree more.

I can understand some of the negative remarks about the film - that the script needed tightening in places, for instance - but I think it is clear that it's a huge leap in terms of direction and design for the series, and I really can't fathom the idea that it's not Bondian enough. Daniel Craig just is James Bond.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:51 PM

Great review, mate, and thanks for the mention. :)



Yeah, ’cause I like you much more than that ‘Bondesque’ fellow. :(

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:08 PM

Love your review Mister Asterix! I didn't think I'd like Fields but liked her a lot. I found myself explaining her to those I went to see the movie with. You hit the nail on the head with Fields. :) :(

Same with the rest of the review! :)

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:11 PM

I dedicated only a small segment sentence to Fields in my 'review', but I agree with it all Mr *. A wonderful expansion of the Fields angle, who is, as you state, a wonderful expansion of the typical and cliched Bond conquest.

As a milestone in Bond's character, she's certainly deserving of the attention.

Ah, substance. What a beautiful thing to have in Bond.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:32 PM

Great review, mate, and thanks for the mention. :)



Yeah, ’cause I like you much more than that ‘Bondesque’ fellow. :(

Thanks. Bet this never happened to the other fellow. :)

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:54 PM

Very good review Mister Asterix, I agree with every word of it :(

I guess most of the people I trust around here liked the film. Not all, but most of them

Edited by Sir James Moloney, 18 November 2008 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:12 PM

Good review, Mr *. I wish we could have spent more time getting to know Ms Fields, losing her would have been more of an emotional blow to the audience.

You also make an excellent point about the film improving with the second viewing. I was unimpressed after seeing it Friday - possibly due to the build-up, but Sunday I thought Quantum of Solace was an excellent movie!

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 01:00 AM

SPOILERS



I’m going to start this review talking about Agent Fields, as wonderfully played by Gemma Arterton, because I think she just may be the perfect modern Bond Girl and her part is in a way a microcosm of Quantum of Solace. And I’m sure other reviews have covered the majority of the rest of the film.

The comparison’s to Jill Masterson are obvious, her short but sweet time in Bond’s world ended in death naked in Bond’s bed coated in (black) gold. But let’s also compare her to Mary Goodnight, Vesper Lynd, and Lee Cullen.

Starting with Lee Cullen, because I know most of you will be asking, ‘Who?’. Lee Cullen was the part Vanessa Williams played in the movie Eraser with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ve said before in these forums that Lee is what the template for the modern Bond girl should be; strong, confident, alluring, very capable, smart. A woman who is more than able to take care of herself; that is until she enters Bond’s — or in Lee’s case, Arnold’s — world. Once in Bond’s/Arnold’s world that is when she needs saving. Not because of any incompetence on her part, but because no real world person can be prepared when suddenly tossed in to this world.

The Mary Goodnight comparison is pretty much straight forward. I’ve said from the when I first heard details of Fields that she reminded me of a non-ditzy Mary Goodnight, and that’s what she turned out to be. I personally have always loved Mary Goodnight; she’s a fun, spunky lesser agent who M assigns to Bond who because of her schoolgirl confidence gets herself in to prickly situation that she needs to Bond to save her from.

Of course, both of those examples were saved. In Fields’ case, not so much. In fact, not at all. Bond doesn’t even realise that this girl needs saving. Instead he is off on his single minded mission to bring down the evil organisation Quantum. This is where the Vesper comparison comes in. I think Fields’ death shapes the future of this raw version of James Bond nearly as much as the death of Vesper.

The tragedy of Fields does not hit home until M points out that she was essentially a paper pusher. Until then to us — and presumably to Bond — Fields is another British spy, who, when she took on Elvis, knew what she was doing. Instead, we find out she was a strong, confident woman who has know idea that this little trick of tripping the nerdy looking fellow — in probably a similar way to how she stopped an overbearing college boy from pestering one of her girlfriends back at university — would quickly lead to her death.

Bond is so remorseful that he is compelled to return to M, after his escape from her men, to point out her bravery knowing it would only highlight his massive failure were this girl was concerned.


As far as Quantum of Solace goes, Fields is just part of this continuing story of James Bond. Where Casino Royale was ‘How James Bond became James Bond™’, Quantum of Solace was the story of how this raw James Bond™ is shaped into the spy we see in, say, The Living Daylights.

The Fields story also encompasses the film in that, as the audience, we are playing catch up to the super high pace of the film. This is a good thing.

The pacing of this adventure redefine the term ‘breakneck’. I’m guessing (I won’t presume to know) that this accounts for some of the lesser-ranked reviews that cited ‘sloppy editing’ or some other similar phase. The editing was not sloppy, it was deliberate and daring you to keep up, and if you couldn’t it wasn’t afraid to toss you aside. It certainly wasn’t going to slow down and wait for you.

I know I’ll be sorry to bring up the word ‘Bourne’, but while Bourne comparisons are inevitable, I think this film took what Bourne did for action sequences and went the next step beyond. The ‘Shaky-Cam™’ is enhanced with sweeping camera moves.

It’s not just the action that picks up the pacing. The non-action scenes are quick and deliberate as well, they make the point and move on.

So how good was it?

In my review of Casino Royale I stated that I had always come out of the theatre thinking the latest Bond film was the greatest Bond film, but that Casino Royale was different. And that still holds true. I still think Casino Royale is better than all of the other Bond films — including Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace is a close second though, and to be honest I’d’ve put it just in the top five after the first viewing, the second viewing however brought it up to just below Casino Royale.

Quantum of Solace however does top Casino Royale on a lot of fronts. Most prominently is the art of Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace is absolutely stunningly beautiful. The scenery, the sets, the cinematography, the lighting, the atmosphere, the typography*, the music; all the most beautiful of the series. The relationship between Dench’s M and Bond also the best of the series. Classic stuff, where you can see that M is trying to reign in Bond while knowing his way will get the job done.

Really the only place that Quantum of Solace falls short of Casino Royale is in the emotionality. Even there Quantum of Solace easily tops all others in the series.

One critique I have heard about this film that I just can’t grasp is ‘It’s just not Bond.’ I really can’t think of one scene that didn’t seem Bond to me. Perhaps Bond’s final treatment of Mathis, but even there, while surprising, didn’t feel completely out of character for this Bond (though perhaps just moving him out of the road and leaning him against the fence would’ve been better.) The best ‘Bondian’ in the hotel escaping from M’s men, particularly when he walked out on the ledge to pass the men unseen. Pure ConneryBond there. The oil can at the film’s end is a better version of Sanchez’s demise in Licence to Kill. Bond ramming the General’s boat is straight from the best of BrosnanBond. And most welcome was Mathis’ ‘Villains and Heroes’ speech which had been the only sad omission of the film Casino Royale from the book.

In total I gave Quantum of Solace a very strong four out of five stars on the first viewing and and a solid five after a repeat viewing. I recommend highly repeat viewings.

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* save the punctuation sins of the subtitles. That’s a foot mark (or an inch mark depending on your part of the world) not an apostrophe. And ellipses have three dots not four.

See, a Bond film without the dots is ...
Mister Asterix, just when I thought I was reviewed out, I read this stunning addition to the opinion chain. Thought-provoking, careful, well-expressed and original points made well and with feeling. Intelligence that is enthusiastic. Thanks so much :) :)

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:02 AM

It certainly wasn’t going to slow down and wait for you.


Quite - a Bond film which is ahead of the viewer, rather than trudging through to get to where the viewer expects.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:51 AM

Finally someone that gives Fields her due. Fantastic review.

And if I may add for all the consistent badmouthers: the positive reviews on this board clearly outnumber the bad ones.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:21 AM

Finally someone that gives Fields her due. Fantastic review.

And if I may add for all the consistent badmouthers: the positive reviews on this board clearly outnumber the bad ones.

In not just number too.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 01:01 PM

A great review - of a great, stylish, and truly Bondian film :(

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 01:06 PM

Thanks Mr Asterix. Liked that, and the Fields comparison. Glad you liked it, and agree on a second viewing it gets better. :(

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:03 PM

Something I didn’t mention this in the review but it came up in another thread as proof that Fields’ death shapes James Bond nearly as much as Vesper’s. In the end Bond’s killing of Greene is not revenge for Vesper, it is revenge for Fields. This is why he gives Greene the oil can, so Greene can know how Fields felt in the end.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:07 PM

Wonderful review, Mr *. Certainly on the mark. :(

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:14 PM

Something I didn’t mention this in the review but it came up in another thread as proof that Fields’ death shapes James Bond nearly as much as Vesper’s. In the end Bond’s killing of Greene is not revenge for Vesper, it is revenge for Fields. This is why he gives Greene the oil can, so Greene can know how Fields felt in the end.

I will not let you escape my clutches, Asterisk. :(

Why would Greene take the can with him?

“In case” he finds a use for it?

Or does he leave it behind, get thirsty to the point of insanity, then crawl back to it?

Since the narrative does not tell us – since we really only know as much as Bond knows – I choose the latter. It’s a chilling end to the character befitting Bond and QoS.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:16 PM

Something I didn’t mention this in the review but it came up in another thread as proof that Fields’ death shapes James Bond nearly as much as Vesper’s. In the end Bond’s killing of Greene is not revenge for Vesper, it is revenge for Fields. This is why he gives Greene the oil can, so Greene can know how Fields felt in the end.

I will not let you escape my clutches, Asterisk. :(

Why would Greene take the can with him?

“In case” he finds a use for it?

Or does he leave it behind, get thirsty to the point of insanity, then crawl back to it?

Since the narrative does not tell us – since we really only know as much as Bond knows – I choose the latter. It’s a chilling end to the character befitting Bond and QoS.


Yes. He will indeed get thirsty to the point of insanity. I think that is made painfully clear. And the guy is bleeding to death in an arid desert. How desperate do you need it to be?

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

Yes. He will indeed get thirsty to the point of insanity. I think that is made painfully clear. And the guy is bleeding to death in an arid desert. How desperate do you need it to be?

It’s not that I need it to be desperate, it’s that it’s either that desperate or it’s contrived.

When Bond tosses the can at Greene and explicitly warns him that drinking it will lead to his death, I immediately said to myself, “Well, just don’t pick it up”.
I’d have left it and started walking knowing full well that it would start looking good to me and that would be my end.

Then the report comes in that Greene drank the oil, and I thought, “what a dumb :(.” I thought “contrived”.

Unless we fill in the scene, imagining that Greene went a great distance, was driven nuts, then crawled his way back and slurped down the oil. Which is chilling, and the only possible scenario (that I can think of) that isn’t hacked.

Unless there are other good reasons why Greene would take the can with him. :)

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:50 PM

Something I didn’t mention this in the review but it came up in another thread as proof that Fields’ death shapes James Bond nearly as much as Vesper’s. In the end Bond’s killing of Greene is not revenge for Vesper, it is revenge for Fields. This is why he gives Greene the oil can, so Greene can know how Fields felt in the end.

I will not let you escape my clutches, Asterisk. :(

Why would Greene take the can with him?

“In case” he finds a use for it?

Or does he leave it behind, get thirsty to the point of insanity, then crawl back to it?

Since the narrative does not tell us – since we really only know as much as Bond knows – I choose the latter. It’s a chilling end to the character befitting Bond and QoS.


It almost has to be the latter doesn’t it. Almost.

Brrrr... chilling indeed.


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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:52 PM

Beat'cha to it in your own thread, Ast.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:52 PM

Unless there are other good reasons why Greene would take the can with him. :(


I guess the other option is he took it with him for a quicker death when it became inevitable.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:52 PM

Yes. He will indeed get thirsty to the point of insanity. I think that is made painfully clear. And the guy is bleeding to death in an arid desert. How desperate do you need it to be?

It’s not that I need it to be desperate, it’s that it’s either that desperate or it’s contrived.

When Bond tosses the can at Greene and explicitly warns him that drinking it will lead to his death, I immediately said to myself, “Well, just don’t pick it up”.
I’d have left it and started walking knowing full well that it would start looking good to me and that would be my end.

Then the report comes in that Greene drank the oil, and I thought, “what a dumb :(.” I thought “contrived”.

Unless we fill in the scene, imagining that Greene went a great distance, was driven nuts, then crawled his way back and slurped down the oil. Which is chilling, and the only possible scenario (that I can think of) that isn’t hacked.

Unless there are other good reasons why Greene would take the can with him.



BOND doesn't tell GREENE it will lead to his death. He says that he bets GREENE will walk twenty miles before he feels he needs to drink it.

You see I'm reading between all sorts of lines here. GREENE was either reduced to drinking it because there was nothing else to drink or Quantum "made" him drink it before killing him. Either way the motivation and the depravity is there.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:56 PM

BOND doesn't tell GREENE it will lead to his death. He says that he bets GREENE will walk twenty miles before he feels he needs to drink it.

That doesn't answer why he'd pick it up in the first place. Whether he thought it was going to kill him or not, he knows it's not going to HELP him. Greene can't be that ignorant.

Thus, he'd have left it. And thus, he went back to it and drank it. Because it's not like the Quantum folks would have first picked up the oil, then hunted down Green, fed him the oil, then shot him.

You see I'm reading between all sorts of lines here. GREENE was either reduced to drinking it because there was nothing else to drink or Quantum "made" him drink it before killing him. Either way the motivation and the depravity is there.

I've got my answer.