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Craig: Creativity And Talent Must Fuel Bond Franchise Future

"Whether Paul Haggis does the next one or we get another writer involved, we want their ideas."

[Quantumofsolace007]

Interesting how he sasy if Haggis returns and discusses the possiblity of a new writer. Might we be getting fresh blood in the writing department?

I would like the genealr storyline and fleming elemnts to come from Purvis and wade with someone of a bit more pinache to finnish writing it I'd personnaly love David Goyer to write the next instalment in the 007 franchise wether he would or not is up to him but i figure he's read all of fleming's novels write a list of what hasn't been taken from the novels and work off of that.

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 04 November 2008 - 05:04 PM.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´d really prefer a new writer coming in. I´ve got nothing against Haggis or Purvis/Wade but they have done too many in a row. They set the path for an exciting new era. Now let new people further develop it.

And please without getting Vesper´s kid in.

[stamper]

I don't think Haggis or Purvis / Wade had "too many". I'm certain that the original Haggis script was 100% better than the final edit of the movie that is QOS....

[tdalton]

I would prefer that there be new writers involved with Bond 23. I'm very much hoping that they bring in somebody new who will really shake things up with the franchise and take it in completely new directions.

[avl]

I don't think Haggis or Purvis / Wade had "too many". I'm certain that the original Haggis script was 100% better than the final edit of the movie that is QOS....

You like the idea of Bond searching out Vesper's orphan child then?

[DamnCoffee]

I don't think Haggis or Purvis / Wade had "too many". I'm certain that the original Haggis script was 100% better than the final edit of the movie that is QOS....

Have you read the original script?

[bond 16.05.72]

No he's just a doom merchant, he didn't get the film he wanted and can't believe others have completely diffrent takes on it.

No offense but expect to see him spreading doom throughout posts about QOS, I got this feeling when I first saw GE, I wondered what had happened to Bond and had to wait till 2006 untill I got excited about the series again.

In the amount of time I'd been a fan it was obvious at some point I was going to feel let down it was Brosnan for me but for Stamper it's QOS.

I can't believe anyone would think GE a great Bond entry but it seems highly respected, QOS didn't leave with that feeling I got after GE, I had my reservations about it but it was far from a flop where I was concerned.

Nobody is going to be pleased all the time and I'm afraid it's his turn for disappointment.

As for Haggis's idea for Vesper's kid, I'm glad that was jetisoned, I really can't see that working at all and the intended original ending, Bond needed to bring this part of his story to a conclusion.

It gives EON a chance to start a new chapter in Craig's tenure, we've got Vesper out the way and he's not gonna be out for revenge or looking for answers for personal reasons, he'll be thirsty to track down Quantum like Bond was wanting to find Spectre in the early Connery entries.

They might try to give Quantum a rest like they did with GF but I've a feeling this will run, we haven't had a continuing organisation since Spectre and that was good for a few films that played out over.

Whether Quantum has a Blofeld or they are just an organisation with members, Greene didn't say the people I work for he said the people I work with.

Maybe Quantum will not have a head just lots of members at various importance but not one Boss.

If Q & Moneypenny must come back and I think Craig is hinting at it then I hope they use them sparingly and if they must be there not the same set piece entry after entry. The usual banter will get tiresome.

I am very curious to see whathappens, I think some thought this would work over a trilogy and then a new story but the decision was to bring to a conclusion the story now.

Some are quite annoyed about the fact we don't see Greene being tortured and the info that Bond extracts from him and the same for Yusef.

I think it's great that Bond will have one up on the audience on what he & M knows, it could make for very interesting Bond 23.

The reason for holding back the info may pay dividends on the future entries.

As for writers, maybe Purvis Wade can come up with sketches that someone more adept at screenplay writing can adapt into a workable script.

Haggis I feel won't want the job forever, who knows Zeutemer might contribute again although he was brought through Forster and I don't see him coming back to direct.

As for Directors, I'm not sure, Nolan I think is out and Mathew Vaughn doesn't want to do it as he's tied to other thing, maybe Neil Marshall although his last film is supposed to be poor.

[FlemingBond]

The Vesper kid idea was not good.
I think purvis and wade should be let go. TWINE wasn't great, DAD was bad. They need a consistent writer and director.
I think the mention of humor is pretty good. In Casino Royale there weren't a lot of jokes, but some of the things Craig did as Bond, like parking the guys car, and smashing it got a laugh. That's the kind of stuff that works in Bond. If there's a joke it needs to be dry, without a big smile, like Connery did.

[Sbott]

"If we’re fighting an uphill battle then it’s time to rethink, but if that’s a challenge, then I think it’s a good challenge.”

Why do I get a hint of DC leaving early if Bond 23 is not up to par.

[sorking]

"If we’re fighting an uphill battle then it’s time to rethink, but if that’s a challenge, then I think it’s a good challenge.”

Why do I get a hint of DC leaving early if Bond 23 is not up to par.

I wouldn't worry, but certainly the producers WOULD let him go if audiences turned on Craig. Which is only fair enough, it's their franchise. They were right last time they made the switch, and Brocolli was wrong to hang on to Rog quite as long as he did.

It's Craig's same comments that led weird 'Craig to leave after QoS' headlines. He said he was contracted for three plus an option, but nothing's set in stone. He didn't mean he'd walk - the contract won't provide him that luxury yet - he meant they could drop him of QoS tanks. Which they could...but I'm confident they won't have to!

[Leon]

I am pretty sure QoS will do just fine. It's already broken records so far.

I do think they need some fresh talent. People who can really undertsand what makes James Bond. They should all be well rehearsed in Fleming!

[sharpshooter]

“You can’t write gags for a movie like this; they either come or they don’t.” – Daniel Craig.

Right he is. An out of place quip will break the atmosphere. A balanced, subtle quip will maintain the atmosphere.

I'd like some more creative surprises for Bond 23. I'm not sure what they can do, but I'm sure they can think of something.

[BoogieBond]

The Vesper kid idea was not good.
I think purvis and wade should be let go. TWINE wasn't great, DAD was bad. They need a consistent writer and director.
I think the mention of humor is pretty good. In Casino Royale there weren't a lot of jokes, but some of the things Craig did as Bond, like parking the guys car, and smashing it got a laugh. That's the kind of stuff that works in Bond. If there's a joke it needs to be dry, without a big smile, like Connery did.

I agree with you there, there was more humour that worked in CR. Whereas I think there were only one or two moments of chuckles in QOS. Thats OK though, because as said if it doesn't fit the film. But I think people expect some wit with James Bond.
Yes, Purvis and Wade have had TWINE and DAD before CR. Whereas CR was Haggis' first. I would like to see Haggis retained if possible, even if it is just doing the polish.

[sorking]

The Vesper kid idea was not good.
I think purvis and wade should be let go. TWINE wasn't great, DAD was bad. They need a consistent writer and director.
I think the mention of humor is pretty good. In Casino Royale there weren't a lot of jokes, but some of the things Craig did as Bond, like parking the guys car, and smashing it got a laugh. That's the kind of stuff that works in Bond. If there's a joke it needs to be dry, without a big smile, like Connery did.

I agree with you there, there was more humour that worked in CR. Whereas I think there were only one or two moments of chuckles in QOS. Thats OK though, because as said if it doesn't fit the film. But I think people expect some wit with James Bond.
Yes, Purvis and Wade have had TWINE and DAD before CR. Whereas CR was Haggis' first. I would like to see Haggis retained if possible, even if it is just doing the polish.

If you credit CR mainly to Haggis, even though P&W were on it first, then you have to credit TWINE mainly to Feirstein (and Apted's wife). Alternatively, you can listen to the CR DVD commentary and get a stronger sense of the size of the writers' contributions from Wilson and Campbell.

Mind you, if you didn't catch the raft of wonderful humour in QoS - as many critics have - you've really missed out. I recommend the Quantum of LOLace thread where members are listing their favourite funny bits. If you only saw one or two, you missed...well, dozens.

[BoogieBond]

The Vesper kid idea was not good.
I think purvis and wade should be let go. TWINE wasn't great, DAD was bad. They need a consistent writer and director.
I think the mention of humor is pretty good. In Casino Royale there weren't a lot of jokes, but some of the things Craig did as Bond, like parking the guys car, and smashing it got a laugh. That's the kind of stuff that works in Bond. If there's a joke it needs to be dry, without a big smile, like Connery did.

I agree with you there, there was more humour that worked in CR. Whereas I think there were only one or two moments of chuckles in QOS. Thats OK though, because as said if it doesn't fit the film. But I think people expect some wit with James Bond.
Yes, Purvis and Wade have had TWINE and DAD before CR. Whereas CR was Haggis' first. I would like to see Haggis retained if possible, even if it is just doing the polish.

If you credit CR mainly to Haggis, even though P&W were on it first, then you have to credit TWINE mainly to Feirstein (and Apted's wife). Alternatively, you can listen to the CR DVD commentary and get a stronger sense of the size of the writers' contributions from Wilson and Campbell.

Mind you, if you didn't catch the raft of wonderful humour in QoS - as many critics have - you've really missed out. I recommend the Quantum of LOLace thread where members are listing their favourite funny bits. If you only saw one or two, you missed...well, dozens.

I found it fine Sorking. For the type of Movie it is, can't deny I found the humour in CR better, and there was more of it to me. This is my opinion though.
I may have missed lots of Humour, the "Don't bleed to death" line for instance is fine, its dry, can't say it made me chuckle too much though. With more watches, I probably will get the hidden gems of wit there.
Also, I would not credit CR entirely to Haggis. That was also a big plus for P&W as well. I am just saying they had a contribution for TWINE(Even though I take your point about Feirnstein's contribution) and DAD before. Haggis came on board in CR, and had no previous involvement. From the comments of Wilson and Craig though, all three may be let go. I hope Haggis is kept though.